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Originally posted by Logman
Can I get the Cliffs?
Originally posted by micmerci
Another insightful post Enoch. S+F.
Wondering what are you views on the rapture of the church? Timing? Thanks.
Luke 11:52
"Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering."
Originally posted by VforVendettea
reply to post by EnochWasRight
So will the tribulation be worldwide or local to the landmass in the vicinity of the Vatican?
Ironic the gun grab is going on now.
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
On February 11th, 1929, an historic treaty was signed between the Italian Government and the Vatican re-establishing the political power and diplomatic standing of the Catholic Church, which had been lost when Italy seized Rome, the last of the Papal States, on September 20th, 1870.
Originally posted by spy66
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Italy and the Roman Catholic Church have healed wounds! Feb. 11. 1929
On February 11th, 1929, an historic treaty was signed between the Italian Government and the Vatican re-establishing the political power and diplomatic standing of the Catholic Church, which had been lost when Italy seized Rome, the last of the Papal States, on September 20th, 1870.
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Pope Peter the Roman is coming. He needs to know a few things before taking office. Jesus gave us the secret to this when he defined Peter (Roman Catholic Mystery School) as Petros and not Petra.
He called him Petros (movable rock). He then said, upon this rock (Petra), he would build the church. Petra is the foundation that cannot be moved--the Chief Cornerstone. Peter is the rock that would be rolled away to reveal the empty tomb. Why? Law holds some parties harmless. Peter is NOT the church. The sheep are the church. Peter is the corrupt ruler of the sheep in the wilderness.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Originally posted by Thought Provoker
Originally posted by spy66
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Italy and the Roman Catholic Church have healed wounds! Feb. 11. 1929
On February 11th, 1929, an historic treaty was signed between the Italian Government and the Vatican re-establishing the political power and diplomatic standing of the Catholic Church, which had been lost when Italy seized Rome, the last of the Papal States, on September 20th, 1870.
I see people use this all the time to explain Rev. 13:3, but... did all of the world wonder after it? Did it shock and surprise the entire world? Did it change their religious beliefs (like verse 4 says will happen)? No; it was just an interesting occurrence. "Oh look, dear, the Catholics got their own country. What's for dinner?"
What would it take to make everyone (except true Christians) feel shock and awe when they hear about it? It would take something happening that everyone thinks is impossible. How about a literal resurrection, someone famous and long-dead suddenly showing up again? Like, say, the surprise reappearance of John Paul II? Can you think of anything else that would make people wet themselves in surprise and change their religious beliefs, so that they start worshiping the Dragon and the Beast? Truly think about it.
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
The Hebrew Mathew confirms what I am saying. It's the best source.
Originally posted by Thought Provoker
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
The Hebrew Mathew confirms what I am saying. It's the best source.
You mean, Jesus building his church on Peter? What if the Vatican has merely usurped Peter's name and mission, and they are not The Church that Jesus was talking about, and thus Hell and its minions have taken it over? "The Church" as used by Christ refers to those who follow Christ. Catholics worship the Virgin Mary and St. Peter (hence all the big "M"'s and upside-down crosses everywhere). They only pay lip service to Christ, in an attempt to mislead Christians; they cannot be "His" church, they're based on blasphemies. The real true Church isn't any man-made organization; it's the body of true believers, and Hell definitely has not prevailed against it. Nor will it. Ever.
Originally posted by DaesDaemar
The white has been here for some time and now the red has been let loose. Everything is falling into place, it's time