Ex-officer suspect in California cop killing

No offence to anyone about this topic

It seems we keep stating the same information over and over again and there has been no new information coming out in the past day or so that we don't already know.

Yes its weird about every angle of this, why he would leave the cabin if he was safe in it, maybe he ran out of food or something who knows.

The wallets are a huge red flag, as well as the cop scanners and then they come out with it today that they didn't set the house on fire.

I can predict that they will now come out with they never found his wallet in the basement, and then they will say there was never a firefight.

We basically have to wait and see, wait for press conferences and the cornier reports to come in early next week maybe. See what new information comes out that we don't already know and stop beating the dead horse.

reply to post by scottromansky


Given the performance of the San Bernadino Sheriff's Ofifice in their media availability on Tuesday evening and last night, I wouldn't hold your breath. Noting that it took more time to introduce the officials on the dais than it took for the statement and questions from the media. It seemed like they were shocked and insulted that the media would question their tactics and call into question the scope of their manhunt; I guess they figured they would just get a pat on the back for their performance.

So if the media is stepping up and questioning the events and tactics of the police.

They are now scared and going to go hide for awhile until people forget about it, then will come out with the cornier report when its in the back of peoples minds.

reply to post by NickDC202


OMG!!!...Thank you for that! I needed a good laugh this morning...

I always wondered what happened to the Bloodhound Gang! They all joined the San Bernardino Sheriff's Dept, apparently..."Uhh...negative dispatch...We don't need no water...Let the M%@#$%^& Burn!"

There is no reporting about this case.
They are trying to conceal a simple and obvious fact, that Dorner is Django

Originally posted by canucks555
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

But..wasn't Dorner trained with Guns, with knives...with his bare hands> ? A man that could eat things that would make a billy goat puke?

Watched the BR version the other night, good stuff. Troutman is teh $h1t.

"You don't see to understand you are dealing with a Professional, the Best"

Just not a very good driver....

It doesnt surprise me one bit what this ex police officer did to someone else, these cops assume they have the right do whatever they want when they want too even if there breaking the law ~ i use to have respect for cops but i dont anymore ~ people, even cops will show there true colors after a while and this is who they really are

reply to post by NickDC202
No, because it would have given an indication that Bin Laden was present
l2

News Flash: Unbelievable... amongst the stack of invoices for the millions of rounds of ammo, there was an invoice for 5 million bags of marshmallows, listed under "siege treats"

reply to post by NickDC202


I thought the reason he left the first cabin was because the two cleaning personnel stumbled on to him. That would give him reason to leave the first cabin to find another hide out wouldn’t it? Supposedly he tied them up and took their car which started the whole thing. If he had stayed there eventually someone would come looking for the cleaning personnel wouldn’t they?

If he hadn’t tried to switch vehicle right away he may have made it through but if I were him I would be worried that someone might find the cleaning personnel and maybe he thought if he could jack someone’s car he would cause enough confusion to slip away.

What is confusing to me is did he fire on fish and wildlife or the police?

I have compiled the "series of events" of what went down and where he went and the dates.

1. Killed 3 people Irvine,CA Sunday 2-3-12

2. Burning Truck Found Big Bear 2-7-12

3. Wallet 1 found at the Mexican border attempted to steal boat 2-7-12

4. Wallet 2 found 2:20 AM same day 5 miles away from the San Diego airport 2-7-12

Hazy spot in between for 5 days where he went, how he got there.

5. Broke into cabin 1 and took 2 hostages stole their car 2-12-13

6. Fish and wildlife spot stolen car after 1 hostage escapes and calls police, he shoots at them first as he drives by at a high rate of speed, they shoot back.

7. Broke into cabin 2 more gun fire erupts.

8. SWAT team enters 2nd cabin, sees blood splatter on walls, camo clothes under a doorway (they don't "clear" the house)

LIVE FEED TO TV CUTS OFF

9. Cops set cabin on fire

10. 1 shot is heard from inside cabin

11. Person inside tries to run out, but went back in

12. Wallet 3 found inside burned cabin 2-12-13

This is based on the various accounts in the previous pages of this forum, and the scanners of police, and the media when they reported the various things.

The weird part is the gun shot, if he killed himself then why would he be alive to try and escape, and if he wanted to go out in this "crazy public" way why didn't he make a run for it and have another firefight.

reply to post by scottromansky


You missed the weirdness between #6 and #7 where he switches from the purple vehicle, that he doesn't know has been reported stolen, to the silver one, which wasn't reported stolen, and the latter silver one, is the one that is "spotted" by the F&W officer, resulting in shots fired, silver vehicle crashed, suspect runs into the woods, but ends up in cabin 2. near the road...

And do you have proof or evidence that SWAT actually breached the "barricaded" house #2 to see the blood spatter and mattresses? Or could they have veiwed them through a broken window? (more likely)

reply to post by Grimpachi


Sadly my earlier post seems to be pretty accurate based on a plethora of sources. However, as you notice how the story seems to alter every few hours depending on which agency is speaking or leaking info.

reply to post by NickDC202


Do we know it was Dorners cell phone or could he have taken it off of the cleaning personel when he tied them up?

reply to post by scottromansky


In all serious Scottromansky, when I wrote this post aside from my sarcasm, the info/facts in it is 100% accurate if you want to cross-reference it with that event log that you wrote.

Additionally, the more we can link to sources for each item in a timeline, the more accurate/infallible it will be. A good example is my post about the three wallets which I have cited and linked to the source for each you can view the 3 wallets post here.

Othewise Good work Scottromansky!

Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by NickDC202

 

Do we know it was Dorners cell phone or could he have taken it off of the cleaning personel when he tied them up?

On Tuesday Dorner turned his cell phone on for the first time since he was named a suspect.
From interviews with the alleged hostages, Dorner was super nice and even left their mobile phone on the table about 3 feet from where he allegedly had them tied up because that's what a crime mastermind would do... right?

reply to post by NickDC202



Well if he had a cell phone then he could have called the FBI or multiple news agencies if he wanted to surrender so that settles it for me he had no intention of surrendering and I don’t expect cops to volunteer to be targets till he ran out of ammo.

reply to post by Grimpachi


Since none of us are Christopher Dorner, it is impossible for any of us to know what his intentions may or may not have been.

From all accounts from the individuals who crossed paths with Dorner or a man resembling Dorner, the person that they describe was not a monster but Karen and Jim Reynolds who Dorner allegedly held hostage said "He had said, I just want to clear my name" and although this man detained them, he was a nice guy.

Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by NickDC202

 

Do we know it was Dorners cell phone or could he have taken it off of the cleaning personel when he tied them up?

Note: It was not cleaning personnel, it was Karen & Jim Reynolds who are homeowners who went up to check on their vacation cabin and found Dorner or a man resembling Dorner making himself at home. The Reynolds vacation cabin was yards from the police command post.

reply to post by NickDC202

From all accounts from the individuals who crossed paths with Dorner or a man resembling Dorner, the person that they describe was not a monster but Karen and Jim Reynolds who Dorner allegedly held hostage said "He had said, I just want to clear my name" and although this man detained them, he was a nice guy.

I have to ask you personally Nick. How can we possibly equate Dorner being a nice, not a monster obviously sane person. Full o training and an officer of the military and the LAPD, to someone who also thinks they can clear their
name by way of murder + mayhem ? The story as it obviously goes can't have it both ways without being viewed as nonsense. Then again, who would even make up such a nonsensical story and expect it to be believable. I don't get it. And therefore, must choose not to buy the first word of any of it.