Ex-officer suspect in California cop killing

The Navy is saying Dorner was 'inactive reserve' from 2010 to 2013. The question remains, what was he doing in that blank area on the timeline? Was he sitting at home, slowly exhausting his savings, stewing about the unfairness of it all? I find it more-than-coincidental that he is discharged from the Navy on a Friday, and goes on his killing spree just 48 hours later.

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Source confirm to News 4 that Dorner ... has been listed as an inactive reserve for the past three years.

Yahoo news (sigh) stating that San bernadino sheriffs spokeswoman stating positive ID of dorner through dental records.

Yahoo

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Inactive reserve is the same as being out except they can recall you in time of war it is usually only done if they are considering instating the draft. So technically he was out. Him being a Captain is good pay and he could have re-enlisted and had a good life. Yet another avenue he could have pursued.

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Good point but can not really read too far into the "Inactive Reserve" part. In the United States Navy as far as I know you can't sign a 2,4,6 year contract, they are all 8 years. However one may only serve 4 years active duty, they will still be placed on inactive reserve status until their 8 year contract is up. I think its sorta a way to insure that they are never short handed any rate. During inactive reserve status you may never even interact with you branch unless something like a war breaks out and they are really short handed so you get called back up. Its not like thy army reserve one weekend a month, two weeks a year thing.

Originally posted by randyvs
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From all accounts from the individuals who crossed paths with Dorner or a man resembling Dorner, the person that they describe was not a monster but Karen and Jim Reynolds who Dorner allegedly held hostage said "He had said, I just want to clear my name" and although this man detained them, he was a nice guy.

I have to ask you personally Nick. How can we possibly equate Dorner being a nice, not a monster obviously sane person. Full o training and an officer of the military and the LAPD, to someone who also thinks they can clear their
name by way of murder + mayhem ? The story as it obviously goes can't have it both ways without being viewed as nonsense. Then again, who would even make up such a nonsensical story and expect it to be believable. I don't get it. And therefore, must choose not to buy the first word of any of it.

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Ted Bundy was considered very charming.


Just sayin.

Originally posted by Grimpachi
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Him being a Captain is good pay and he could have re-enlisted and had a good life.

Another source I read said he was passed over for promotion twice, and thus was being forced to leave the service.

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Helicopters had landed SWAT officers in a lot near the Reynolds' condo, and through the weekend they stood in plain view from the cabin, gearing up in helmets, bulletproof vests, with assault weapons at the ready.

I thought Dorner was trying to kill as many cops as he could. I guess not. Did he still think he could escape? If so, he was grasping at straws, or was severely deluded.


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Originally posted by starviego

Originally posted by Grimpachi
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Him being a Captain is good pay and he could have re-enlisted and had a good life.

Another source I read said he was passed over for promotion twice, and thus was being forced to leave the service.

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news.yahoo.com...
Helicopters had landed SWAT officers in a lot near the Reynolds' condo, and through the weekend they stood in plain view from the cabin, gearing up in helmets, bulletproof vests, with assault weapons at the ready.

I thought Dorner was trying to kill as many cops as he could. I guess not. Did he still think he could escape? If so, he was grasping at straws, or was severely deluded.


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That's why I don't believe one word about this entire 'story'.

Absolutely nothing makes any sense, just like Sandy Hook.

Seems that the Gov screen writers are getting very sloppy these days!

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You're right, it is nonsense.

Heck, I'd challenge anyone who does not have questions about this entire "thing" to read this post and this post which showcase the absurdity of this "thing" without even touching on the whole "the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire; we don't need no water let the mother****** burn, burn mother****** burn" stuff.

As far as Dorner or the person who allegedly resembles Dorner being "nice", I noted that statement from Karen and Jim Reynolds because it is remarkable that a day after his gender reassignment surgery that Jim Reynolds could make a statement like that (since until early Thursday morning it was stated countless times that two women were help against their will be Dorner or a person who allegedly resembles him).

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John Wayne Gacy was a homeowner...

lol

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I 'll give you that one Grim.

Some observations from the federal criminal complaint against Dorner:


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COMPLAINANT'S STATEMENT OF FACTS CONSTITUTING THE OFFENSE OR VIOLATION:

On or about February 7, 2013, in Orange County, within the Central District of California and elsewhere, defendant Christopher Jordan Dorner, fled the State of California in order to avoid prosecution in violation of Title....

a. On February 7, 2013, Detective Anschick and other officers interviewed C.C., a boat captain in San Diego. ....

b. Detective Anschick later found DORNER'S personal belongings, including his wallet and identification cards, near the U.S. Mexico border at the San Ysidro Point of Entry. ...

10. Based upon the foregoing, including the recent observations of a suspect matching DORNER'S description attempting to flee to Mexico, as well as my training and experience, that there is probable cause to believe that DORNER has moved and traveled in interstate and foreign commerce from California to Mexico with the intent to avoid prosecution, ....


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Clearly, the cops were pretty sure that Dorner was in Mexico. Who observed Dorner 'attempting to flee to Mexico'? How is it that the detective interviewing the boat captain 'found' the wallet and ID more than 10 miles away?




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That is most interesting StarViego, thanks for sharing that.

On the previous page of this thread I document each of THREE times that Dorner's wallet/ID was found in THREE different locations.

As far as the alleged description of an individual allegedly reassembling Dorner crossing the border, I'm gonna guess that someone saw a smiling, heavy/muscular African-American gentleman cross the border and decided it must be Dorner.

Btw if Dorner's identification was found as stated in the legal document you shared, one has to wonder if the ID allegedly found in the cabin-house was planted or someone lied in a sworn affidavit.

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I find the name Reynolds, very interesting when it's involved in anything high profile my brother. Just as a point to be noted.

Two different versions of how the fire was started:

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Officers lobbed canisters of tear gas into the cabin, first "cold" canisters, then pyrotechnic canisters that police refer to as "burners," (San Bernardino County Sheriff John)McMahon said.

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The fire at the cabin was started by gasoline, (spokeswoman for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department Cindy) Bachman said, but it wasn't immediately known who ignited the blaze.

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Dorner had several weapons registered to him, including five 9 mm pistols, (Irvine detective Jonathan) Sampson wrote.

Nothing about any AR-15s. If he didn't legally own any AR-15s, where did he get them from?



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@randyvs...did I see you on tosh.0 the other night? You were singing that song about the duck right?

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What's significant about the name Reynolds?

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I heard a fourth version of how the fire started: apparently Dorner was smoking in bed and was all tuckered out and went off to dreamland with the cigarette still lit; thus then starting the fire.

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Thats the best one, while cops still shooting hundreds of rounds at the cabin he was in he decided to take a nap.

I'm now hearing that the fire in the cabin-house can be definitively blamed on a rouge meteorite that happened to hit the cabin-house during the standoff. It is also the source of that sound that was believed to be a single gunshot.

Originally posted by Illuminaughty8
reply to post by randyvs

 

@randyvs...did I see you on tosh.0 the other night? You were singing that song about the duck right?

I'm not cop'in to nothing.

Originally posted by NickDC202
reply to post by randyvs

 

What's significant about the name Reynolds?

At the risk of having you laugh or flame me ? It is factually a high profile Illuminati name. Right up there with Rothchild's, Vanderbilt's, Rockefeller's, Kennedy's.

Reynolds wrap.

Originally posted by NickDC202
I'm now hearing that the fire in the cabin-house can be definitively blamed on a rouge meteorite that happened to hit the cabin-house during the standoff. It is also the source of that sound that was believed to be a single gunshot.

I live close enough to discredit that one. As if I need to do that !