TA-ANALYSIS: Al-Jazeera Air New Osama bin Laden Tape

If this were a political move by the current administration, why would he be so tough on Bush. He mentions that he can't protect you (although he said this about Kerry also), that Bush was responsible for letting the attacks happen by giving them more time, basically calling out Bush. If this were a true ploy by Rove and the boys, they certainly would not even mention the "slow" reaction time to the events. No need to put any negative spin on your candidate so close to a heated election.

I also don't think either candidate is using this unfairly politically. The most wanted man in the world just aired a video. If they didn't respond, we would chastise them. I think they both handled it very well considering the circumstances.

As for the "differences" in OBL's appearance. He's older, he's been living in caves and on the run, and was possibly injured. Does anyone here have any older friends? Have you seen how big their ears and noses get? It happens when you get old.

DCGolf, I think this tape is out there not for the content but for the public to SEE Osama, realize the terror that looms and vote Bush.

IMHO

Originally posted by dgtempe
DCGolf, I think this tape is out there not for the content but for the public to SEE Osama, realize the terror that looms and vote Bush.

IMHO

That exactly what my thoughts are, that is why the video is out there, and I think is more to come in the next 4 days. Its just a remider from the present administration.

So I can wait what is next.

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Interesting....

A taped confession by a subdued Ossama. Minus the ever present AK-47 and battle fatigues.

Right after al-Zarqawi claimed he was the new leader of al-Qaeda.

And by the way... the Gov't has openly admitted they cannot authenticate the tape! Just heard it on the radio.

If he ever turns up in custody, this is the tape they will use at his trial.

I doubt we will ever see that.

Edit:spelling

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dg/marg
I understand what you are saying, but if Bush was behind this I don't think they would be so harsh about Bush himself. You don't want to remind undecided voters that he stayed in the classroom and appeared slow to react. Second rule of thumb in elections: Never admit a weakness. First rule: Expose your opponents weaknesses.

I truly think this is their attempt to influence the elections. They clearly state that our foreign policy is to blame for attacks. Of the two candidates, who is less likely to "attack and wage war" on other countries. I believe they want Kerry as President.

Just my opinion, and I may be wrong, but if the administration were behind this wouldn't it be just an ordinary threatening tape.

I do admit, though, that the timing of the video could lead to many conclusions.

Come on people ,

I think most of us pretty much know that these videos are usually released, and then within 72 hours, are followed by some type of event. Whether it will be on American Soil, no one knows. This is why the Video has not been released, the government is analyzing it for any codes or instructions. Meanwhile while we were all distracted by this, they uploaded it, or something else, to a website to give some type of orders, then it was quickly taken down. Problem is there is hundreds of thousands of Jihad sites, and sites that can be used to pass information, probably millions. There probably is only thousands of people monitoring sites. There is such a lag in Intelligence as it is, which is why if anything is going to happen, it will probably be within the next 24-48 hours.

The threat Level is not going to be increased this weekend. It may be bumped on Monday just as a precaution preluding to the election.

These pictures very much describe what I think about all this terror video stuff:









If OBL is not dead, he hasn't been severed completely from CIA influence and control in the Middle East. These productions are brought to you by CIA in conjunction with ISI approval.

Above images from jackblood.com

Edit: Oh yeah, the REAL Osama said he was not the mastermind. The REAL Osama said for the American people to question their Intelligence agencies which receive Billions in funding. Osama was providing good advice.


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Originally posted by dcgolf
dg/marg


I truly think this is their attempt to influence the elections. They clearly state that our foreign policy is to blame for attacks. Of the two candidates, who is less likely to "attack and wage war" on other countries. I believe they want Kerry as President.

Just my opinion, and I may be wrong, but if the administration were behind this wouldn't it be just an ordinary threatening tape.

I do admit, though, that the timing of the video could lead to many conclusions.

I agree with you first the timing is to close to elections, then the content of the tape it actualy does not influence as to whom to vote, and again like I said before we should sit and wait what is going to be next.

I already voted I did early vote yesterday. In case something happend at least I already voted.

lol:
Thanks for the pictures. Downloaded them for safekeeping

well OBL is looking a lot more healthier than a while ago. it's good to see him recover, i don't want him dying on us! he's gotta be put in front of a court first.

well this video only continues to prove to me the foolishness of how Bush handled the war on terror, he should of got him in afghanistan. the guy's an incompetent fool, he took his eye off the ball to settle a score for his daddy

thanks,
drfunk

Bin Laden's speech sounded like a list of DNC talking points. We are in a global war and the battleground can be anywhere, even your backyard. Until this scourge has been eliminated, we can expect no less. What this country needs is Kerry the Turncoat as its Commander-in-Chief.

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Bin Laden's speech sounded like a list of DNC talking points. We are in a global war and the battleground can be anywhere, even your backyard. Until this scourge has been eliminated, we can expect no less. What this country needs is Kerry the Turncoat as its Commander-in-Chief.

What this country needs is to REALLY go after the perpetrator of 911.

OSAMA

You color it over and say the "enemy" is everywhere. When your country is attacked, and you're 100% sure who did it like Bush says, you take care of the SOURCE first. THEN and only then, you go after others, or at least simultaniously. Bush doesnt care about Bin Laden. Wonder why?

Originally posted by dgtempe
What this country needs is to REALLY go after the perpetrator of 911.

OSAMA

You color it over and say the "enemy" is everywhere. When your country is attacked, and you're 100% sure who did it like Bush says, you take care of the SOURCE first. THEN and only then, you go after others, or at least simultaniously. Bush doesnt care about Bin Laden. Wonder why?

It is a lot more than Osama, it is Islamic Fundementalism...many more than Osama.......

Originally posted by dgtempe

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Bin Laden's speech sounded like a list of DNC talking points. We are in a global war and the battleground can be anywhere, even your backyard. Until this scourge has been eliminated, we can expect no less. What this country needs is Kerry the Turncoat as its Commander-in-Chief.

What this country needs is to REALLY go after the perpetrator of 911.

OSAMA

You color it over and say the "enemy" is everywhere. When your country is attacked, and you're 100% sure who did it like Bush says, you take care of the SOURCE first. THEN and only then, you go after others, or at least simultaniously. Bush doesnt care about Bin Laden. Wonder why?

While I agree in theory, I have an exception.

We knew that Japan was responsible for the Pearl Harbor invasion. While we knew this was this case, deep down, we knew Hitler was responsible for the overall war. Should we have just worried about Japan and not worried about Hitler and the Axis? If we had taken that approach, who know's what would have happend. Sprechen Sie Deutsch?

I believe this is the Bush Administration's thought process (not mine). Iraq has had a dictator who developed WMD's (at one time) and he was dangerous to world peace. They thought this was the hotbed of terrorism and decided to take it out.

It pains me to hear the stories of the common everyday folks who have lost their lives because of this conflict. Even though many of them joined up to receive college money for serving two weeks out of the year, they signed a contract. I pray for the families of those who have fallen. I thank God that they have sacrificed their lives for my freedom.

Originally posted by dgtempe
What this country needs is to REALLY go after the perpetrator of 911.

OSAMA

You color it over and say the "enemy" is everywhere. When your country is attacked, and you're 100% sure who did it like Bush says, you take care of the SOURCE first. THEN and only then, you go after others, or at least simultaniously. Bush doesnt care about Bin Laden. Wonder why?

Oh..so Osama himself was the only one involved in the terrorist "attacks" on the world is he now?.... He didn't receive any help from other terrorists according to you right?

You just forget that Osama and those who attacked the US, Spain and other places in the world are part of a bigger group who have been planning and seem to be planning other attacks.... You just want to concentrate on the past, "only", and not on avoiding any future attacks....hummm...and you don't see anything wrong with your point of view?.....



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Osama had to put out a recruiting video since we have killed or captured 60% of his top people. Also since he can not launch an attack like 9/11 he is buying time with the potential recruiting base. I do not expect a major attack before the election. There might be some soft minor targets hit by a cell or two but no major attack. We are winning the war on terror.

I think the ABC tape was the disinformation attempt prior to the election. The guy was American and hyped by the FBI. What a perfect chap to provide disinformation to the American people. The government wanted to put fear into the little old ladies prior to them hitting the ballot box. They could not depend of OBL to do it.

Regardless, Bush wins with or without the latest tape. I am pleased that W. will get another term. The guy is action oriented. Even if he makes mistakes such as post Saddam Iraq. A mistake is evidence that someone tried to do something. In this case, Bush has lowered OBL to the point he had to cover his butt by this latest pitiful video. I would say it is the top of the 7th US 8 OBL 3. George does not even have a reliever warming up.

oh!- yes! - i wonder if this is the begining of the staged capture of b.l.- - you know - - where our fearless- drug running ,above the law cia- - some how tracks him down , because of that tape- - i wonder?>??- they do not have much time before the election.
later guy's

Another schetzophrenic moment in the life of Bush

Originally posted by dgtempe



Another schetzophrenic moment in the life of Bush

Please! Don't tell me there wasn't a politician who said what the public wanted to hear!

Kerry and his "views"

www.cbsnews.com...

Phat pictures man..........Thats exactly what I think...Before people would debunk that Adam the Amerrican Abracadabra guy, they made a quickie with OBL back in the dungeon at Langley...but uh...that tape was pretty pitiful...so whats the point?? Is OBL Now the Revolutionary Leader of the American People telling us that our Security lies in our own hands? DAMN sounds like a NRA advertisement