TA-ANALYSIS: Al-Jazeera Air New Osama bin Laden Tape

Also, at least Kerry was willing to be interviewed and answer questions, where as Bush made a statement then walked away from reporters.

Kerry also makes jokes about Tony Soprano during televised debates. He'll talk to anybody. The Boss jokes sucked too.

wow, so much is happening in the last 48 hours. I really think there exists a very real risk of a staged-attack now. This is definitely very scary.

Headline news: Phoenix Arizona 4:17pm

"Tape of BinLaden surfaces,...but is it really him?
News at 5pm


You cant get any more Republican than this state, yet preview of 5pm news is saying this isnt Osama.

Maybe im not so crazy after all. Just good perception

Dg could you provide some links please because if what you say is true i and i think some other members would be interesting in reading what they have to say.

Thanks

Mark, its on tv and the website,Channel 12 doesnt say anything yet.

Ill keep you updated. (infact this link isnt good either)

[edit on 29-10-2004 by dgtempe]

Howdy folks...

IMHO...

It looks like to me his nose has been broken, if I remenber correctly, wasn't he supposed to have been injured in a bombing raid ?

Well, seeing that OBL has now, for the first time, claimed responsibility for the 9/11 attacks, stating that he ordered them, disproves all these people screaming "It wasn't Osama!"

Oh well, you were wrong. OBL did do it. I remember reading all these threads about how the U.S. blamed him without knowing, well, that was a bunch of crock, sorry for you.

This idiot doesn't get it. He says "Neither Bush or Kerry can protect you"

What.An.Idiot.

Does he not understand that America was forged by fire? We won this land, and he aren't cowards. We will never back down to some punk terrorist who thinks Al-Qaeda can outdo the world's most powerful nation.

Basically, heres the deal (for those foreignors):

1) After 9/11, the U.S. population were neither Democracts or Republicans, nor were they liberals or conservatives, they were Americans. United by an attack, angry and wanting revenge for the evil that was done to us. Now, heres the thing:

It doesn't matter if Bush or Kerry are in office: if OBL attacks us again, and maybe in a bigger way (like he is claiming), we will be united once more. United, ready to fight. You don't wanna rattle the cage of the biggest dog in the world. It doesn't help you.

If they attack us again, we will attack them 10 times over - the terrorists cannot defeat us. He doesn't understand that attacking us won't make us weaker and more divided - only powerful and more united, as we once were.

-wD

Thank you Jedi MAster, a real theory. I was waiting for someone to post that.
So, where that link for the news at 11 story?

I think its posible that its a fake but look how much people change in a year. Its also possible that its not a fake. If it is a fake it will look like Kerry did it. But then others will say no Bush did to make Kerry look guilty. Truth is we just dont know if its real or not. Yet. Maybe never. So do we wait around for people to die before we decide if its real or do we talk about what to do for safety now?

have we ruled out that it could have changed due to him aging, I mean we haven't heard from him, other than today, for quite some time

Originally posted by esdad71
Thank you Jedi MAster, a real theory. I was waiting for someone to post that.
So, where that link for the news at 11 story?

Well...

My theroy is look at the bridge of the nose, and how swelled it is, to me it looks like it was broken...

Which news @11 story are you reffering too ?

Is there something popping up @ 11 ?

some are speculating that it isnt him. I dont know for sure

Channel 12 in Phoenix still hasnt followed up on it and news is almost over. I hate it when they give headlines and then dont follow up on the story. Maybe somebody shushed them? I dont now

Ok...

IMHO...

Look also real close at under both of the eyes, they look to have to have been blacked ( unless his mascarra is running )...

Both eyes being blacked is common for a broken nose...

Did you guys who think the video is a fake not take this into consideration?

Quote from sensfan:
"You do realize that the pics they show on that website are pictures from a wide screen lcd screen, and the faces of the man on the screen are "stretched" which is why the face looks wider and the nose looks wider."

Edwards just opened his speech with a comment on the video saying something similar to what Kerry said "We, Dems and Reps are united and will hunt you down and you will be held accountable for what you did"

It's on CSPAN right now.

Bush didn't mention it in the speech he just finished in Colombus, Ohio.

Bin-laden,

It that really him? Just like some of the members point out, I think this a political propaganda, it�s that really him? to tell you the truth I don't think so.

The administration has brought bin-laden to the american people, not his body but his video, the surprised is here bin-laden looks alive and well, so people of american take a good look at him and then make your decision.

Bin-laden is not in Iraq, and that is where our president has taken our military forces, not where bin-laden is but where he wants to be.

Here me out on this.

What really suprises me is that no one has questioned why the other tape that threatened America has not been mentioned by OBL and why use a seperate tape for a threat and another one with the warlord himself explaining the 9/11 event?

Why couldnt have OBL threaten USA himself on that tape?

If both tapes are 100% real

It seems to be a lack of communication between Al-Q.

Or am i missing something here

Its very strange.

[edit on 29-10-2004 by markjaxson]

Originally posted by deeozz
Edwards just opened his speech with a comment on the video saying something similar to what Kerry said "We, Dems and Reps are united and will hunt you down and you will be held accountable for what you did"

It's on CSPAN right now.

Bush didn't mention it in the speech he just finished in Colombus, Ohio.

Thats because he doesn't want people who don't know about it to hear what UBL said about him. That was a smart move.

Originally posted by Indigo_Child
wow, so much is happening in the last 48 hours. I really think there exists a very real risk of a staged-attack now. This is definitely very scary.

Indigo....What exactly do you mean by this???

wtf, so both candidates are putting politics ahead of security once again:

Bush/Cheney- Not mentioning the video, except for the one time after the story broke, so people who don't know about it yet, don't find out and then see the quotes of UBL directly referring to Bush's reaction on 9/11, etc.

Kerry/Edwards- Opening every speech by saying "In response to the recent release of a new UBL video, we, Dems and Reps, are united as Americans to hold UBL accountable for what he did", hoping that people will flip on the news and hear the comments about Bush.

Both candidates are pathetic.