Homosexuality= 999,999,999,999,999,999 God= 0

well that would require evaluating whether the church (church is not a building, according to jesus anyway. he says you are church, as in your body is god's temple. think about that one for a second). was capable of saving you from sex. there's a niggly little thing there called free will. so if you are the church, and you didn't save yourself from sex, don't beat yourself up about it, just get back up, and try again if thats your will. yes, it is being blown out of proportion. his will is his will. it ain't your will or my will. nobody can make those choices for him except him. didn't anybody ever teach you that?

Originally posted by undo
well that would require evaluating whether the church (church is not a building, according to jesus anyway. he says you are church, as in your body is god's temple. think about that one for a second). was capable of saving you from sex. there's a niggly little thing there called free will. so if you are the church, and you didn't save yourself from sex, don't beat yourself up about it, just get back up, and try again if thats your will. yes, it is being blown out of proportion. his will is his will. it ain't your will or my will. nobody can make those choices for him except him. didn't anybody ever teach you that?

Right. So, he can preach to everyone else that he was "saved" by the church, get found out that he's not saved at all, and that's okay? You dont think he's wrong even in the slightest for lying through his teeth about being "saved" ?

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

Originally posted by undo
well that would require evaluating whether the church (church is not a building, according to jesus anyway. he says you are church, as in your body is god's temple. think about that one for a second). was capable of saving you from sex. there's a niggly little thing there called free will. so if you are the church, and you didn't save yourself from sex, don't beat yourself up about it, just get back up, and try again if thats your will. yes, it is being blown out of proportion. his will is his will. it ain't your will or my will. nobody can make those choices for him except him. didn't anybody ever teach you that?

Right. So, he can preach to everyone else that he was "saved" by the church, get found out that he's not saved at all, and that's okay? You dont think he's wrong even in the slightest for lying through his teeth about being "saved" ?

how do we know he wasn't saved at all?

lifestyle? why define a lifestyle by sexual orientation... especially if it was a "Choice" all along?

thats like saying I'm an Ex-Democrat, I want to live out the rest of my life Republican okay but to top it off I'm going to set the score forDemocracy= 999,999,999,999,999,999 God= 0
and now that I changed teams
Republican= 999,999,999,999,999,999

Oh wait but still God= 0?

Afterall, the intrinsic problem is throwing around our Supreme creator's name (be it, GOD, or whatever).... IN VAIN.

(in vain, as in, our "own" particular, arrogant, interest)

As for church, the Temple of Windsor, London? Oh yeah, it owns US regardless of the GAYS vs GOD score

perhaps your word "saved" is different than my word "saved." to me, a saved person is not miraculously free of any particular problem they believe they may have. they just determined to seek forgiveness for it and make it a priority in their lives to change those things. they aren't always successful . i mean it's not like his falling off the bandwagon is a crime is it? or are we reverting to a society that seeks to punish people who don't adhere strictly to their faith? i understand your frustation, but i think it's pretty easy to see that the only thing that's different about his position and yours is his frustration is not with you but with himself, from the sounds of it. i know i certainly don't get mad at random people if i eat a candy bar. and i don't expect them to get mad at me either. of course, that's my free will choice cause it makes sense to me.

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

Originally posted by undo
well that would require evaluating whether the church (church is not a building, according to jesus anyway. he says you are church, as in your body is god's temple. think about that one for a second). was capable of saving you from sex. there's a niggly little thing there called free will. so if you are the church, and you didn't save yourself from sex, don't beat yourself up about it, just get back up, and try again if thats your will. yes, it is being blown out of proportion. his will is his will. it ain't your will or my will. nobody can make those choices for him except him. didn't anybody ever teach you that?

Right. So, he can preach to everyone else that he was "saved" by the church, get found out that he's not saved at all, and that's okay? You dont think he's wrong even in the slightest for lying through his teeth about being "saved" ?

how do we know he wasn't saved at all?

Because he ended up going back to his "old" ways... Obviously not saved.

reply to post by SearchLightsInc


says who?

reply to post by meggiddo2012


Have you not heard of this new thing called SCIENCE????

And Fertilization? No sex needed..................

Humanity will always find a way to prevail. There are species of animals and plant forms that are Asexual, yet have both the male and female "parts" within them to continue reproducing off spring. Nature has a keen way of keeping things around.

If there are no Gay men in Heaven the music will suck (mostly bad harps I guess), as will the decor (what too much white is so not heaven!) and the outfits will be horrible (Again White Suits and white ties??)

PUHLEASE!

Besides I look damn good in purple! Christians please ask God to let them in when you all are raptured ok?

Otherwise I am pretty sure there will be a Fast Thumpin party goin on downstairs!

reply to post by lupodigubbio


Talk about out of the frying pot and into the fire. I'd much rather be gay than an imaginary deity's little shadow but I am not either of those things.

Religion

Homosexuality

Well endowed female

Originally posted by beautyofperil
reply to post by lupodigubbio

 

Well endowed female

if it's well endowed females that you wish for, may i recommend a holiday in thailand?

phuket, dont knock it untill you've tried it and all that

reply to post by skalla


I've tried knocking it and enjoy that very much so I will stick with that.

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

Originally posted by maes2
GOD = Appeal to Wisdom And Nature
GAY = Appeal to New Traps Of Elites

"God" has done nothing but misunderstand nature.
Nature has wisdom, God is the the kid with learning disabilities that just cant keep up with mother earth. God is defective, Nature is the supreme ruler of the earth AND mankind.
Primitive to even assume "god" is somehow higher than Nature.

That phoenix which you have hope in it, is God. that wisdom in nature is God. that supreme leader is God.
sometimes we confuse between corrupted Vatican and God. the all attempt of Jesus was to fight with the corrupted clerics. the leaders of the tribe of Israel.
I do not want to preach, maybe I am somehow corrupted as well ! but in what I should have a hope ? I can not find anything firm and sustainable in this world but the God of monotheistic religions !

reply to post by funnychick


Good luck with that.

reply to post by meggiddo2012


Are Paul's words more reliable than Jesus' words himself? I don't understand why so many "Christians" worship Paul ( a serial killer btw)......... They should re-name themselves Paulites

Jesus' teachings go directly against those verses. Ever read the "cast the first stone" parable...

Originally posted by meggiddo2012
reply to post by OptimusSubprime

 

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
New Living Translation (NLT)
9 Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 10 or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people—none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. 11 Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Romans 1:18-27
New Living Translation (NLT)

18 But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness.[a] 19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. 20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. 23 And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. 25 They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. 26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

Great, now show me where in the New Testament it says that you and the authors of the Bible get dog tags for being "God's soldiers" despite those massive logs in your eyes. Must be really hard throwing stones with that in the way.

reply to post by tropic

So, pray tell me, which one is sin, democrat or republican?

I'm actually surprised republicans haven't started outwardly calling being a democrat as a sin.

reply to post by WaterBottle


Moses was a murderer, King David was an adulterer and murderer. Your point is? Do ypu think that God just uses those who are well off?

1 Corinthians 1:27
King James Version (KJV)
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

reply to post by meggiddo2012


Why did you ignore the other more important aspect of my post....

which was......

Why are you favoring Paul's words over Jesus's own words? Who do you worship?

reply to post by LightOrange


2 Timothy 3:16-17 Paul says: "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

Jesus judged. Jesus told the Pharisees, “You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?” (Matt. 23:23) That’s pretty severe judgment. Examples of Jesus making severe judgments could be listed for pages. The whole Sermon on the Mount is a series of condemnations of the evil teachings and practices of the Pharisees. Jesus told the Pharisees that they should judge, but with a different standard than what they had been using: “Has not Moses given you the law? Yet none of you keeps the law. . . . Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” (John 7:19, 24)