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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by akushla99
I'm pretty sure murder is illegal everywhere. The Hebrew word used for "kill" in that commandment deals with murder. All murder is killing, however not all killing is murder. Examples would be war, death penalties, and self defense.
edit on 8-2-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by NOTurTypical
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'I'm pretty sure murder is illegal everywhere'
This may be so, but you have outlined instances where it is not illegal, but sanctioned?!
A99
Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by NOTurTypical
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'I'm pretty sure murder is illegal everywhere'
This may be so, but you have outlined instances where it is not illegal, but sanctioned?!
A99
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by DelayedChristmas
Friendly precaution, delete your youtube history or someone's going to think you like watching homosexual animals getting it on
Ask God about His stance on homosexuality.
vethumanbeing
You have the cell phone number to GOD and Its rascally whereabouts? Friendly precaution I'd like a front row seat watching you throw stones at yourself and trying/attempting to make yourself miss.
I WILL ASK. God, what is your stance on homosexuality? (Within a confessional) Why within the Church hidden well my Son/daughter, Peter! is that YOU??
DelayedChristmas
Dude, I still don't understand what you are saying. Are you making fun of me because you assume something I am not. Are you making fun of me because I am advising Maes2 to not consort the Bible and the Judaic Laws for God's stance on homosexuality and ask God personally?
If I am "throwing stones," I would like to know what stones I am throwing in your eyes.
My opinion on it is that people will always twist scripture to justify what they are doing and to condemn whatever they disagree with. They used scripture to support the owning of slaves. They used scripture to support the Salem witch trials. They used scripture to support the crusades in the middle ages where countless people were murdered. Hitler used it, the KKK uses it, now the homophobes use it.
You well know where (at your sanctimonious feet) the stones are in process becoming; describing your ideas, flying like boomerangs at your head. What is this. You are advising Maes2 to not read the Bible and or Judaic Laws for God's stance on homosexuality and ask God personally. You Said IT. If you talk to God and advise others to do so I WANT THE NUMBER AS WELL.
DelayedChristmas[i/]
This doesn't mean scripture is evil, it doesn't mean Christianity (what it SHOULD be) is evil. It means people have bastardized it, they have twisted it, they have warped it. They don't practice Christianity when they do this, they practice hatred and that's the complete opposite of what Christianity is supposed to be.
Oh I so agree. The entire point of Scripture was as a jump off point to enable humans to bastardize it, use it to twist and warp for their convienence. THIS was THE PLAN (what are they going to do). Use it for personal gain, hey, I just found a credit card in the street $25,000 credit limit in the name of: God. So you would take it to the nearest Home Depot and purchase the foundation materials needed to re-erect Solomons Temple in your backyard. I think you would have other personal selfish needs to be satisfied; which takes us right back to the 'throwing of the stones' analogy.
My opinion on it is that people will always twist scripture to justify what they are doing and to condemn whatever they disagree with. They used scripture to support the owning of slaves. They used scripture to support the Salem witch trials. They used scripture to support the crusades in the middle ages where countless people were murdered. Hitler used it, the KKK uses it, now the homophobes use it
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
You probably won't get any honest or intelligent responses from Christians in here.
Originally posted by Lone12
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
You probably won't get any honest or intelligent responses from Christians in here.
Why would you say that..?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by NOTurTypical
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'I'm pretty sure murder is illegal everywhere'
This may be so, but you have outlined instances where it is not illegal, but sanctioned?!
A99
No, re-read what I said. I outlined examples of killing that isn't murder. Manslaughter would be another example of a killing that would not be murder. As stated previously all murders are killings, not all killings are murder.
Originally posted by DelayedChristmas
My opinion on it is that people will always twist scripture to justify what they are doing and to condemn whatever they disagree with. They used scripture to support the owning of slaves. They used scripture to support the Salem witch trials. They used scripture to support the crusades in the middle ages where countless people were murdered. Hitler used it, the KKK uses it, now the homophobes use it
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by akushla99
It's not a cop out it's basic exegesis. The Hebrew word for "kill" in the Decalogue deals with murder.
Generally when that specific nuance of the Hebrew language is explained people comment:
"Ahh, I see. That makes sense."edit on 9-2-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by akushla99
Not so much an interpretation, that implies it's a matter of debate. Definition would be a more precise term.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by akushla99
Back to the OP? No way, I addressed that much earlier in this thread. It's a begging the question fallacy.
Originally posted by akushla99
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by akushla99
Back to the OP? No way, I addressed that much earlier in this thread. It's a begging the question fallacy.
Its an interesting question, worthy of discussion, but you'd much rather derail?...because we disagree?...apart from this, there is veiled compliment in the exchange...
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