Obama's DHS Ammunition Containers, what does it mean?

Originally posted by UnmitigatedDisaster

Some numbers to play with. An average day at the range for me with my PPQ in .40 is 300 rounds. Keep multiplying that by the number of people involved in large training exercises and that number grows quickly. I don't know if the qualifications differ from state to state or organization to organization, but an LEO friend of mine says he puts an easy 500 through his issued Glock if they do a training/drills day.

Perhaps another LEO or similar could chime in? My point is pretty simple on the quantity of ammunition purchased: you go through a lot very quickly even by a single person, add in a few departments worth of people and you can easily start sending 20,000 plus a day downrange. Also, the military standard issue sidearm is a 9mm, so it likely isn't going to National Guard or state-bound military.

I run through 500 rounds on a qualification day. Some guys run through more, if they don't make the grade and have to re-shoot the Q-course. None of that accounts for "practice days" or the ammo burnt up on them.

Originally posted by smurfy
reply to post by Blundo

 

It's not Obama's DHS, that's before his time. This is what DHS are responsible for,

It may have originated during the reign of King George Bush II, but it's all Obama's now, since it's his watch and he's not disbanded them.

Regarding your list of agencies under the DHS banner, what on Earth do you suppose the national Guard is doing in that list? They're supposed to be state, not federal. That in combination with the "fusion centers" and DHS taking over local police departments through the carrot-dangling maneuver of federal funding does seem to be yet another indicator of the far over-reaching power grab that is the modern DHS.

Originally posted by jessieg
Didn't John Titor the supposed Time Traveler say something about a civil war and something about Florida? I'll have to go and reread what he said. I am not sure he is a time traveler, but I think perhaps he had knowledge which he wanted to leak but used the form of a story.

"John Titor" claimed to be from Florida, born and raised there, entering a "shotgun battalion" of resistance fighters based there shortly after door-to-door roundups began.

Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by Daedalus

 

I don’t know if this is the case but hollow points use less lead so since they are buying in bulk there should(read that as should) be a price difference to where training with hollow points makes more sense. I reload my own ammo so there isn’t any difference in how it’s done between the two. I know some people that do train with the rounds they would regularly carry. I don’t know about whether 9mm or .40 is the standard carry or not but I know .40 is preferred by most.

When I was armed security, we trained with the same rounds we qualified with - RNL. Because we qualified with RNL, we were supposed to carry the same, because if we had to pop some one, there would be a field day among the lawyers in court if we had used hollow points to do so. The argument would have been made that our intent was to kill, because of the hollow points.

I carried ny-clad hollow points, personally, because if I had to pop some one, my intent was damn sure not to just tickle them. I got called on the carpet once for carrying hollow points. The bosses were not pleased.

Generally speaking, you train with what you qualify with, and you carry what you have qualified with. It makes the legal defense a lot easier.

But still no proof it was ammo . The military ships about everything in green boxes incase you haven't noticed

I am a government contractor and see bids post every day. I saw this one and am confused why the prison system needs this much ammunition. Do they really need that much target practice ammo for such short range targets?

Vendors are providing pricing for the following AMMUNITION and its delivery: 9mm Luger, 115 OR 124 grain, jacketed hollow point ammunition (price to include total cost of bullets + shipping/delivery). Total request is for 250,000 rounds of ammunition. ***Please note: this will be delivered to a Federal Prison and special shipping instruction will be provided to ensure that the shipment arrives at our warehouse and away from inmates.

marketplace.fedbid.com...

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