Off-Planet Species Contact Made

reply to post by Shamrock6


You write:
multiple responses by the OP, but not one that addresses my questions? I'm starting to feel pretty gypped. all I wanna know is why he was chosen to speak about this, who told him to go forth and spread the good word, and why they told HIM to do it HERE as opposed to anywhere else. and I want an answer that doesn't come from a google translator filled with doctoral thesis language that is very wordy but doesn't really say anything at all. is that too much to ask? guess so.

A: I think your premise for the question you ask is all wrong.

There are no "chosen" ones. Biblical history abounds with such an idea, but it no longer operates, especially with me.

No. There is no chosen syndrome in any of this and I find it difficult to attempt an answer to something that is just plain wrong to think about.

What has happened to make receiving possible is a lot of hard work. My training consisted of at least 10 years of working spiritual classes with my indwelling spirit who speaks 24/7. Fools in some professions call the gift of God's small, still voice, a disease. I call them fools because they mistake miracles for massive brain illness and have caused many to leave this world without hope. They need educated to behave.

It took ten years of mentoring with the indwelling. It took five years of working with the angelic realm to put into place certain markers in the brain that accept transmission circuits, and then another five years of practice to get synchronized with the voice and data transmission they routinely run through individuals who have been prepared. Only in the last 24 months has the process been successful, and it is being used well enough without causing me physical discomfort or overweening pride about being a chosen one.

These transmissions stand on the record. They are what they say they are as hard as that is to understand. I do understand why it is difficult and I do not rant against anyone who calls it useless you know what. Truth though has a funny way of attracting even minds that are closed. I can not worry myself with what people think so much as I do worry with accuracy to the best of the ability of my physical structure to withstand the strain and the politics of what happens when used as a receiver.

As to the question as why such and such a forum may be used, it is mostly a case of random luck. No one says go here or there, but find outlets where there are a sufficient number of people of all persuasions to communicate. That has been done here and elsewhere. If I knew even other places with sufficient capacity to take many discussions on line, I would use them. There is no prior selection of internet property to provide these narratives on.

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reply to post by Plotus


You ask:
I do have one question though... how far are these solar systems from earth in light years? I admit I went from page three to this comment and didn't read all the comments past that page, thinking most of your dialogue already printed. I will go back and finish the rest as soon as I'm done here though.
Also, as to any Deity........ is there one, several or any for these distant beings (humans) as they wish to be called.
I'm cautious here believing your claims, almost finding it incredulous, but I'll save judgment until the facts are all disclosed. And, is your age in the 70's? as some have determined from your first post? OR...?

A: I am getting 1 million light years in round numbers. From where I sit on earth to the Uversa transmitting facility is about 500,000 light years or so. The planet Honeidar has a transmitter on it capable of reaching Uversa, and Honeidar sits in another superuniverse (number 6) about another 500,000 light years. Since you and I live in superuniverse seven (7), there has to be a translator station somewhere. I am told that the translator that rekeys SU 6 to Uversa to me intervenes from the local universe cluster of architectural spheres around the massive planet Salvington.

A: Deity is personal as God. Deity is pure spirit, but these transmission deal with the material and the morontial as well as pure spirit. I have no reason to discuss theology, but they are the ones that make all of this possible including to give us each a conscious life. I have a very interesting history available someday just how Deity saw to the physical set up of these transmissions. Not all the pieces are yet available to me, but I do know that the head of our local universe domained on Salvington, spoke to me, to Uversa, to Honeidar, to the Master Spirit in charge of SU 6 and SU 7, and probably to hundreds of others unknown to me, to make the connections and allow the transmissions not to be cut by a Universal Censor assigned. I have had contact with the Universal Censor who DID cut some transmissions before the Deity on Salvington cleared my link. We are on the best of terms!

A: It is perfectly okay with me for you to be incredulous. You show respect even when greatly doubting these proceedings, and I in turn, respect your doubt. Time and events will either clarify some or all of this to you when you are in a slightly different place and perspective, and that is true of most who doubt or even demean what has been given here. My contribution is finite. What lies behind these events is eternal and if it is truth that is being called to be shown here, it will endure and be better understood when time evolves minds to comprehend this contribution.

Other than the outlandishness of the content of this OP, another reason I am highly skeptical, is that you have claimed for a while now that the earth is going to undergo cataclysmic changes that will kill off most of the population. I know you said last year that it was going to happen Oct/Nov of 2012. Needless to say, it didn't happen. Can you understand my/our lack of faith in what you are saying? When someone has been predicting something for years that just never happens, it's very difficult to take that person seriously.

reply to post by Plotus


Plotus, you wrote:
He spoke of the refueling incident, and spoke of a miscommunication between the host and the guest, the guest ultimately causing severe damage to the docking/fueling facility, and the collateral damage to the host's populace. This means that 'EGO's' were at work in decision making as to heeding warnings or pleas. EGO has been a topic of discussion . . . .

A: A very important lesson here as you have properly drawn out for our attention.

A: In the many discussions I have had with the celestial brigade as I call them, they teach that humans, wherever they may be found in the universe, content with the ego. The ego is not bad, but it does interfere with progression of a human toward goals that require something other than ego to use to attain them. The Honeidar and the Varen, to name two I know about, still retain vestiges of the ego. That happens because it is the psychic defense mechanism that evaluates good or harm to the goals you wish to attain. The higher the goals and values, the less the ego is required to help one attain them. Think about it.

A: On a primitive planet (and they call us barely civilized), ego predominates because people work with the idea of the survival of the fittest. That belief requires a full display of the mechanisms of self defense and to obtain total hegemony over one's competitors for safety reasons, requires the ego to play the role of "king of the hill". These humans from a whole other galaxy, far beyond our own as a matter of fact, while they live in a physical world environment, still must take care of themselves even while they have attained a highly spiritual civilization. Only when they live and die, and pass on to the worlds of ascension, will they learn like people from earth, that the defenses can be put down and the highest values of an entirely open and friendly spirit culture may be embraced without fear.

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Originally posted by kaylaluv
Other than the outlandishness of the content of this OP, another reason I am highly skeptical, is that you have claimed for a while now that the earth is going to undergo cataclysmic changes that will kill off most of the population. I know you said last year that it was going to happen Oct/Nov of 2012. Needless to say, it didn't happen. Can you understand my/our lack of faith in what you are saying? When someone has been predicting something for years that just never happens, it's very difficult to take that person seriously.

A: I do not deny what you repeat above is true. The schedule remains highly dangerous and it will not change until there is a complete remaking of our little blue sphere. I am personally glad nothing has happened at all because of the loss of life and land, but that only means I (or we) have to take our medicine a little later than originally predicted. Now get over your vapors and watch the clock tic forward one more notch as we contemplate the future.

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reply to post by Outrageo


A, I never knew the guys name. Clears up the Bernard references earlier in the thread!

Originally posted by Aronolac
Now get over your vapors and watch the clock tic forward one more notch as we contemplate the future.

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Okay, I'll admit, you have a special skill there, but that doesn't mean I will believe 100% of what you say. I will wait and watch with a skeptical, but not close-minded eye.

It sounds like someone is writing a new book, ATS being the testing grounds. I will say very well written though. I will certainly read the rest of OP's posts and make popcorn. Frank Herbert would be envious of your material OP. It sure beats the socks off of those I am a alien from Andromeda with a special message types

Alex Collier needs a new writer , you might be the guy

OP, you better tell your friends they are on borrowed time..... I' d say less than a Earth year so this ban they have on being here? Needs to be lifted..... And come packing because the Earthers need to be controlled for their own good before they kill their selves. Conduits have been closed primarily for a couple of years now, only important "urgent" messages are allowed? Hope these messages are Earth changing , they need to be..... Now I will continue to read the thread from page 1.

I think it's foolish to not believe we are on borrowed time. As soon as the atom split, we knew, or very soon came to realize that we have put ourselves in a constant state of danger. Fukashima is a perfect example of how dangerous our technology is in a planet that tectonically shifts! However, I don't see mankind coming together demanding that we shut down our nuclear plants. We continue, despite knowing they are ticking time bombs. We choose it, because we only see our own grandeur of our own creations. Talk about the negative implications of ego!

We are constantly on borrowed time. Heck, N. Korea just announced nuke testing! How is it, the planet is not at a constant state of risk? Then, not only that, we have other risks not even human related that could at anytime cause death and destruction at a large scale. Natural disasters are a constant possibility. We are always in a state of potential disaster on mass scale.

What is more, we are unwilling to come together as a species. Despite the benefits, we focus only on the dangers of how our own systems will change. We are being kept separated, and it is stunting our ability to move into the new paradigm shift that will positively effect our evolutionary growth. We're in a pickle. Burying our heads in the sand isn't going to make it go away. Screaming it's fear tactics, and porn doom, doesn't not make it still so. We have to grow up, and it needs to be sooner, rather than later.

reply to post by DarthFazer


Dear DF

I have a little time to play with so I want to answer your post which was harmless if not without a little tongue in cheek.

Your write:
It sounds like someone is writing a new book, ATS being the testing grounds. I will say very well written though. I will certainly read the rest of OP's posts and make popcorn. Frank Herbert would be envious of your material OP. It sure beats the socks off of those I am a alien from Andromeda with a special message types

Alex Collier needs a new writer , you might be the guy

A: While what I write about is from a direct experience with the Honeidar and the Varen, it just goes to prove that truth is quite often more bizarre than any fiction we could print. I am not a science fiction fan although in my youth I read a lot of it as I was an immense fan of Captain Video and the Video Rangers.

Alas, that set was struck by the Washington-based Duma network long before the 1960's came in with the noir assassinations of leaders and the harsh victimization of the American democracy in the name of military preparedness. I served during the era of the Vietnam War never quite finding a niche to make my mark in the business world even though I wound up on the board of directors of a consulting engineering firm in New York State. Like a lot of things, if I had to figure out all the moves it took to do that and to find myself speaking with galactic neighbors while sitting at my keyboard, I would never be speaking to you today.

Because you might like a good read to tickle your creative intelligence, I will take this opportunity to tell you a few more facts you could not easily swallow (even though they are true, “Scouts Honor”).

Several years ago I was standing in a place called upstate New York. I withhold the place name to protect their summer fields of lakes and potholes for all to find and enjoy. I had just had a very serious bout of something or other that had taken all the wind out of my sails. It was a dark and stormy night, followed by a hot and humid day that I took a walk down a long hill of about a 20-degree incline the whole way. I got to the bottom and nearly collapsed. After attempting to regain enough energy to go back up to where the house was, I thought, “where are the miracles when you need one!?” I started to move my legs locomotion style toward the hill to be climbed, and then quite suddenly I felt a cool breeze blow on my back.

Whoever, whatever it was, connected me to some sort of energy I have never experienced before. I managed the hill in 20 minutes at full quick time march and did not sweat or get out of breath. At the top of the hill right outside of my house was a big boulder upon which I threw my self on to sit looking at the woods all around me. I thought to myself, “I have got to get out of here and back to flat landscapes!”

“What do I have to do to break the lease?”

The moment I thought that, a very old, perhaps a century deacon of a hemlock that was 7/8ths dead, fell down in a crash! Somewhat put off, I gathered what was left of the composure given to me by the easy walk up, and hurried inside for a drink of water. I then experienced the very first communication I ever had from within the mind, and it reminded me that no favor is returned without another given. Then it was gone. Thus started what has come around to what you read today.

I thank you for your interest and I hope you continue to enjoy the communication device I have become today!

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reply to post by CirqueDeTruth

you have it spot on and the cause Ego but so does the OP.... Immaturity and unfortunately the human race keeps putting the worst offenders in positions of power. I am lead to believe and I can share...... They are here and they will be ready . Who ever "They" are I don't know.

Originally posted by kaylaluv
Other than the outlandishness of the content of this OP, another reason I am highly skeptical, is that you have claimed for a while now that the earth is going to undergo cataclysmic changes that will kill off most of the population. I know you said last year that it was going to happen Oct/Nov of 2012. Needless to say, it didn't happen. Can you understand my/our lack of faith in what you are saying? When someone has been predicting something for years that just never happens, it's very difficult to take that person seriously.

THANKS for posting this.

Now without any doubt we know this guy is nothing more that another charlatan.

Sorry OP, how do you expect somebody to believe anything you could say after such a FAILED prediction?

At this rate ATS should make a forum for science fiction fantasy, these types of post's seem to becoming all the more common as of late. I guess these people are really desperate to make money now the whole 2012 thing is over or are just looking for attention.

Seem's like the content of the OP is taken from Here.

Just another pseudo spiritualist alien cult like the GFL if you ask me. I honestly don't know what type of discussion can be had from these types of posts, anyone with enough time can make up these novels and pretend they have 'made contact' with some imaginary alien race.

Aronolac, I greet you in the light and love of the Infinite Creator. I have watched these forums for some time, and had not, until this time, felt the need to create an account or contribute, as I am more comfortable in most instances acting as a simple observer.

Now, however, I feel the time has come to make my thoughts heard and known. I am very interested in the work you and your group are doing, and would like very much to hear you describe in more detail several things. To wit, I will ask a series of brief questions that you may of course answer in as much or as little detail as you see fit.

-Earlier in the thread, you mentioned that:

No, I mean telekinesis. Telepathy does not carry the weight a detailed message requires, and it operates in a completely different way in the mind. I encourage you to investigate the differences between all of the means and ways the mind may operate with outside communication since there are at least 12 different ways available. I know several, but the Honeidar inform us that are 12 different means of mind communication. They should know because they are among t he most advanced communicators anywhere in the grand universe.

Here on earth we have channel, we have transmitting/receiving, we have telepathy, we have telekinesis, and several more. Not all 12 are available to us on earth but that number represents the accepted norm of categories operating in our universe.

-I would like to know specifically, or even more generally, how the mode of "channel/channeling" differs from that of "transmitting/receiving".

-Additionally, why do you go on to later list telekinesis after T/R, as if were separate, although you've alluded earlier to the notion that the method of mind communication you're using to receive the transmissions is telekinesis. Are they separate, the same, or similar?

-In typing your responses to the specifics of many of the questions here, are you at any time actively receiving transmissions from off-planet, or are you merely conjecturing as you see fit and to the best of your ability? Are you able to send a specific query "down the line" as it were, and then receive an answer back in short order?

-Are you aware of the body of work that is known as "The Law of One"? If so, any candor as to how your process is in any way related to this material would be of interest to me and I'm sure others as well.

I'm sure you'll agree that it is important for seekers of truth to use their discretion when investigating and examining knowledge, and to use their own intuition as a primary validator of information that is largely in the realm of mind and/or spirit. To that end, I have more questions, but I will allow you time to answer what I've presented thus far if you so choose.

I thank you greatly, this thread has been a boon to me, and I'm sure to others as well, you're a very kind and talented person, and I have great respect for the way in which you've conducted yourself in this thread, often times in the face of the vitriol and scorn that can, at times, seem prevalent here. Thanks for your time and effort, Namaste!

It's one of those things you hope is true but doubt so much.

Interested nevertheless. Sorry i can't add any more, but based on the nature of the post, im sure you can understand.

"Of course this sounds like alien technology"

Uhh, did you not say it is vagrantly offensive(basically) to call them aliens? Your credibility is shot as far as i am concerned. You let one little thing slip out of all that cleverly written article. GREAT story though....

Originally posted by Aronolac
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes

 

You write:
Can you describe, please, a "telekinesis contact"? Is that something where one party moves the other one out of their chair, or what? Maybe they move a planchet on a ouija board, and spell out messages? Or, I guess they could take over a keyboard, and type things at one another?

A: That contact process is described further in the introduction. I will add to make a stronger point that it is dictation. Once the contact is made, there is a direct input into the inner ear and the dictation is audible and can even pause to wait for transcription to catch up. The actual act is as simple working as talking with someone on the telephone. It is not telepathy as some seem to insist upon, but a genuinely different and mostly unfamiliar process on this planet. I think an investigation of the phenomena would make a great book!

Thank you

If this is directly to the person, that sounds more telepathic. How can you know that this isn't telepathic, and is instead affecting the inner ear in some physical way? How would you even test such a thing? I am not saying it isn't possible, just that I can't imagine how you could know. If that could be proven, it would indeed make for interesting reading!

I have read the entire Urantia book, and it is a racist book. Interesting in its way, however among other things, it is a *racist* doctrine. Anyone who has themselves read the book will soon realize this.

I once asked a Urantian to clarify this, as I was genuinely interested in the book, despite it's dubious claims regarding race. His or her response was somewhere along the lines of "Yes it's true, some races have superior genetics and spiritual attributes."

This is what they believe people. The "violet" (aka white race) is superior. This is what they believe. And please, OP, if I am somehow mistaken in this assessment, I would love to debate the finer points of the book in relation to this matter.

I have to go to work in half an hour, so the ability for any response on my part will be put on hold for several hours, but I look forward to discussing this with the OP or anyone else who feels so inclined.

Good to get things, out in the open, as it were.

As an aside, I encourage everyone to ask themselves this; from the numerous and plentiful posts of response from the OP, has any of the information he has provided in his vague and automaton like way brought you closer to any understanding... about anything?

If so, what? What has he really said that is of any substance whatsoever? Because to me it sounds like poorly written Science Fiction. L Ron Hubbard's writing was equally atrocious in my opinion, but hey Scientology ended up doing alright despite that fact. I consider Urantians a less absurd yet more subtle and similar form of cult like disinformation.

Big words.... but does he walk his talk I wonder? Maybe he believes it him or herself, which is probably the best case scenario in my mind, though still would be a far stretch to say it therefore contains anything remotely approaching what could be considered 'truth' in any real or meaningful sense.

This is all my opinion, so take it as you will, I do not claim to know anything for certain, and my opinions are subject to change because i try and be honest with myself and objective in my approach which i feel is absolutely necessary especially in regards to the topic of UFOs/Aliens. But thus far, this is where I stand on the Urantian question.

And believe me, judging from the amount of Urantia-exclusive terms used by the OP, his agenda is that of a Urantia book follower, though he couches it in the context of some new imaginative extraterrestrial fable. And i believe it to be just that, fiction. It is shocking to me in fact that more of you do not get that impression. Re-read some of those alleged transmissions about the alien home world and it just sounds made up.

Just my 2 cents. Not meaning to offend anyone or their beliefs. Disregard my words if you feel you must, but i would implore you to at least consider them.

Thanks for your time.

Peace. ~

reply to post by tothetenthpower


I understand the jabs issue, but if you're not going to tolerate "nonsense" the OP needs to be removed. I'm all for flights of fancy, but along with that liberty must come a modicum of tolerance for those poking good natured fun. Hateful replys; absolutely not. Someone making a comment no more ridiculous than the original post; surely this ok?