Sandy Hook Smoking Gun, Did CNN Really show a drill at St. Rose Pre-School as live Sandy Hook?

Originally posted by OneisOne

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
Once again, CNN has been caught lying, or at the very least participating sloppy journalism.

You are right, CNN is practicing sloppy journalism, but so is Intelhub.

I re-read the article and they state this video clip aired during the morning. It did not. It was the opening clip for Anderson Cooper's show at 8pm that night.

Here is the link for the video on CNN's website.

and here is the transcript for the show.

The Intelhub also does not state that there was a threat at St. Rose school that day and just refers to it as a drill.

And that´s what I´ve been saying..
If the skeptics don´t trust the media (and it´s been clearly said it here) they have NO solid ground to debunk the conspiracy theorists!

I´m sad and sorrow for the victims, as I would do if they were murdered in CONGO. The fact they were american citizens in an american city is definitely giving the subject a different perspective, either in feelings or censorship.

No one can deny that.

Originally posted by OneisOne
I wasn't a drill. There was a threat at the school that day. The school EMS put on lockdown and there was a police response.

Just do an ats search for St. Rose of Lima and you will find the article I have posted twice about it.

OneisOne is correct. There was a threat later that day at a different school. In fact that was the school that Adam Lanza had attended previously.

Originally posted by beatbox

So if you don't need to see bodies, let me ask you:

Do you think bin laden was buried at sea?

Off topic, and not even close to the same thing.

Burying Bin Laden somewhere other than the sea was a simple and relatively riskless task, I have no idea what they did with him. Sandy Hook is totally different.

If you came to me and said you believe Bin laden was not buried at sea, I would say you may be right, if you told me Sandy Hook never happened, I'd say you'd lost touch with reality and gone right off the deep end.

Originally posted by soulwaxer

You think that shooting up a school is ordinary?

You have some serious issues.

soulwaxer

Please don't twist the meaning of my words.

Cannot believe you got a bunch of stars for such a lame attempt to deflect my point by deliberately misrepresenting my position

These were the insane acts of a psychopathic madman yes, in that sense they are not "ordinary", but they are "ordinary" in the sense that these things happen, unfortunately. They are not exceedingly rare, or hard to believe when you realize that there are some very sick people out there.

I find the case horrendous, but I'm not completely surprised it happened.

Originally posted by sweord

Originally posted by soulwaxer

Originally posted by humphreysjim

Originally posted by sweord

agreed, but do you require the same extraordinary evidence from the MSM?

A lone nut shooting up a school is not extraordinary, unfortunately, faking it is.

You think that shooting up a school is ordinary?

You have some serious issues.

soulwaxer

and apparently we are the insensitive ones?

Have you seen the world we live in? There are sick people, no? You don't have to look terribly hard to find people sick and capable enough of commiting such an act. Such acts have occurred before on a similar scale.

Sandy Hook is not extraordinary in the sense that we should find it hard to believe, given the society we live in, so we should not need extraordinary evidence to accept it happened. Faking the event is impossible in the society we live in, and ridiculous too.

Does that help?

And yes, you are the insensitive ones, but that's irrelevant.

Originally posted by humphreysjim

Originally posted by soulwaxer

You think that shooting up a school is ordinary?

You have some serious issues.

soulwaxer

Please don't twist the meaning of my words.

Cannot believe you got a bunch of stars for such a lame attempt to deflect my point by deliberately misrepresenting my position

These were the insane acts of a psychipathic madman yes, in that sense they are not "ordinary", but they are "ordinary" in the sense that these things happen, unfortunately. They are not exceedingly rare, or hard to believe when you realize that there are some very sick people out there.

I find the case horrendous, but I'm not completely surprised it happened.

edit on 21-1-2013 by humphreysjim because: (no reason given)

These were the insane acts of a psychipathic madman yes,

Really? How can you be so sure about this? Were you there? Did you see one guy doing it? No. You know what people told you so that makes you as blind as the conspiracy theorists.

I do believe the massacre occurred as many do. But people is urging to know what really happened and this is not a crime or lack of respect with anyone.

reply to post by dirtybird


I can just imagine the scene :

" - WE'VE GOT HIM !!!

- sir you have the right to remain silent ..

- Hey i'am just an off duty officer running around in the woods, sorry, wrong place wrong time"

- Oh ok sorry sir, would you like to be escorted back to to the roadside, it's a bit dangerous around here, we are looking for a guy who has just murdered kids.

- Oh no biggy don't worry, undersand the confusion !

- Oh no sir don't sit in the back seat come up front with me, just roll down the window if you want a smoke"

Must say that is a bit funny, catch a guy and take him off in the front seat

Did you notice that the counter has stopped on Youtube Sandy Hook Hoax videos...

Doesn't matter when you go back, the count is stuck or very slow..

Guess they don't want it to be worse then it is..

Originally posted by LordAdef

Really? How can you be so sure about this? Were you there? Did you see one guy doing it? No. You know what people told you so that makes you as blind as the conspiracy theorists.

I do believe the massacre occurred as many do. But people is urging to know what really happened and this is not a crime or lack of respect with anyone.

It's a given that the killer was a psychopathic madman, I don't buy that anyone completely sane could commit such an act. I see no great reason to doubt that Adam Lanza committed the act, and once you discount him you go pretty deep into conspiracy theories that make little to no sense.

I accept it happened and Lanza was responsible, until convincing evidence shows he was not.

Do you give every murder such scrutiny?

Originally posted by Asktheanimals

Originally posted by OneisOne
I wasn't a drill. There was a threat at the school that day. The school EMS put on lockdown and there was a police response.

Just do an ats search for St. Rose of Lima and you will find the article I have posted twice about it.

OneisOne is correct. There was a threat later that day at a different school. In fact that was the school that Adam Lanza had attended previously.

fr.scribd.com...

Apparently yes the school Adam Lanza attended, in 99 the catholic priest there was accused of molesting young boys... If it had have happened there that may have been a motive for Lanza... anyways off topic.

reply to post by humphreysjim


It seems alot of things cannot exist in your world, despite the fact that psyhopaths and all kinds of sickos hold positions in the highest areas.

Way too much is being hidden in this case for us not to question it all.

Incredulity is a sign of wanting to believe a narrative, a belief that things work a certain way, and that you can map everything nicely and fit it into a box, not true.

Originally posted by humphreysjim

Originally posted by soulwaxer

You think that shooting up a school is ordinary?

You have some serious issues.

soulwaxer

Please don't twist the meaning of my words.

Cannot believe you got a bunch of stars for such a lame attempt to deflect my point by deliberately misrepresenting my position

These were the insane acts of a psychopathic madman yes, in that sense they are not "ordinary", but they are "ordinary" in the sense that these things happen, unfortunately. They are not exceedingly rare, or hard to believe when you realize that there are some very sick people out there.

I find the case horrendous, but I'm not completely surprised it happened.

edit on 21-1-2013 by humphreysjim because: (no reason given)

I didn't twist your words.

Your exact words: "A lone nut shooting up a school is not extraordinary, unfortunately, faking it is."

Not extraordinary = ordinary

How is that twisting your words (which you conveniently omitted from my quoted post).
And even if you meant something different, I am not responsible for your lack of writing skills.

And for the record, I myself WAS completely surprised that it happened the way it reportedly did. That is why I put so much effort into looking into it.

soulwaxer

Originally posted by soulwaxer

Your exact words: "A lone nut shooting up a school is not extraordinary, unfortunately, faking it is."

Not extraordinary = ordinary

How is that twisting your words (which you conveniently omitted from my quoted post).
And even if you meant something different, I am not responsible for your lack of writing skills.

If you were familiar with the term "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", and where and why it originated, you would understand that it refers to claims that are unlikely due to their very nature, rather than me implying that it's a perfectly normal thing to do.

I am not responsible for your ignorance of something I'd expect you to have heard a million times.

Even if you were ignorant of the statement above, the word "ordinary" can refer to "commonplace", or it can refer to "normal". Given that it has multiple meanings, you could at least have given me the benefit of the doubt before assuming I was saying something as ridiculous as "it's perfectly normal and fine to shoot kids"

Some astounding ignorance and disingenuousness being displayed here.

reply to post by humphreysjim


You see.. you accept it. Many people don´t for various reasons so until everything is very clear there´s no reason for confrontation. One may raise the point that Lanza didn´t act alone.

But this topic is about CNN twisting what the viewer should be watching when it broadcast the wrong place, right? Is it acceptable as well?

Do you give every murder such scrutiny?

edit on 21-1-2013 by humphreysjim because: (no reason given)

When it's being used to infringe upon constitutional rights, yes. Remember how we had the Patriot act because of the Terrorists?

reply to post by LordAdef


I have no issue with questioning, it's when people start accusing other people based on those questions, or start fabricating elaborate conspiracy theories, or start harassing victims and their families.

If CNN faked anything, or even got anything grossly wrong due to error, of course they should be taken to task for that, but again, it's the conclusions you come to based on that that is the issue, especially where the evidence is woefully inadequate to start pointing fingers.

reply to post by dave_welch


The conspiracy theories began instantly, before any talk of gun control started, and would continue regardless. It's what you guys do after every major event that makes the news.

reply to post by LordAdef


Thank you for that. I've been trying to say that for weeks now, just never came across so well.

reply to post by humphreysjim


That may be true, but the talk of gun control was hot on it's heels.

I'm not saying that it was fake or staged. I'm saying that all angles should be looked at. The media has already proven itself untrustworthy.

Examples:

"Ryan Lanza did it" now they say it was his brother Adam, which makes more since as Ryan wasn't even in the area.

"Four handguns were used."

"AR-15 assault rifle was used" (not to mention that an AR-15 is not an "assault rifle") also, what gun was used is still unconfirmed.

"His mother was a teacher there" now it's been shown that she wasn't.


There's a lot more, that I'm sure you're just as aware of as we are.

Wanting to know the truth doesn't make you heartless.

Originally posted by bknapple32
Been discussed multiple times. There was threat in a nearby (relatively) school

So we are to understand that this was a decoy threat, a coincidence or not yet known?