Yahweh = Satan. They have you worshiping evil.

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NIght Journey says that Alah gave the land to the Jews to inhabit for ever . The original Dome of the Rock was built over the Rock of Abraham to hold and protect the place where the Temple of God will be rebuilt by the Jews . What happened ? Isreal has been re-inhabited by the Jews , why do you Muslims oppose them . There are real Jews there in Israel today along with some mixed Jewish people . Gods remnant of Jews who have not bent there knees to Baal are there .Why do you hate them ?

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Read Isaiah chapter 45 verses 5 thru7 . There is no other God . He creates good and evil . He gives dominion to who he wishes . Satan got his marching orders from God as Jesus whom he sent in the flesh to offer Grace and Mercy .Everybody will choose either Satan and reject Gods outreached hand called Jesus or will choose Jesus or Grace and Mercy . Now if you don't like being Pawn pieces in his game and reject God and Jesus you will choose Satan by default . It's his game , his plan .

I was reading a Sherlock Holmes story when it occurred to me that Holmes is really Moriarty. Only Moriarty is smart enough to make you think he is Holmes. I noticed this because Sherlock Holmes is very egotistical and cunning. Moriarty is a great liberator trying to bring an end to the despotic governments of the world and usher in a new world order of his own making. Holmes is the one who keeps standing in his way so he must be preventing us from being liberated.

I am aware of what Arthur Conan Doyle said about his own works as well as what followers of Doyle have stated about his works but this just does not make sense to me because its way too popular to be true and what better way to trick his readers than to completely invert the names and intentions of his protagonist/antagonist.

Discuss........

This pretty much shows the absurdity of the OP.

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So you are also Caticus Maximus ?

reply to post by SimonPeter


I only have one account...

Though I've heard many people assume I have others...

Theres only one madcat here my friend...

read the first page... proof is in the pudding

reply to post by Akragon


I was refering to your reply to an individual on page 31 of this thread and your first post on that page .

reply to post by SimonPeter


Lets just say I was making his life easier...

Theres nothing that can reconcile Jesus being Satan...

Although Yahweh being satan is quite the different story

reply to post by NihilistSanta

Originally posted by NihilistSanta

You are putting your spin on things. Give me some verse to support your assumptions and we will go from there. I find it ironic you have a problem with the lords so called "atrocities" yet your avatar is laden with symbols of occult groups related to Naziism. You talk about atrocities

This is highly incorrect, and I suggest you study up on many of them, none of them are related to 'Naziism', not even the Swastika...History has failed you good sir. I won't even begin to point out the incorrect correlation you attempt to insinuate between the Occult(esoteric), and demon worship either...

The swastika (卐) (Sanskrit: स्वस्तिक) is an equilateral cross with four arms bent at 90 degrees.The earliest archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates back to the Indus Valley Civilization, Ancient India as well as Classical Antiquity. Swastikas have also been used in various other ancient civilizations around the world. It remains widely used in Indian religions, specifically in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, primarily as a tantric symbol to evoke shakti or the sacred symbol of auspiciousness. The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix. The swastika literally means "to be good". Or another translation can be made: "swa" is "higher self", "asti" meaning "being", and "ka" as a suffix, so the translation can be interpreted as "being with higher self". In East Asia, the swastika is a Chinese character, defined by Kangxi Dictionary, published in 1716, as "synonym of myriad, used mostly in Buddhist classic texts",[1] by extension, the word later evolved to represent eternity and Buddhism. The symbol has a long history in Europe reaching back to antiquity. In modern times, following a brief surge of popularity as a good luck symbol in Western culture, a swastika was adopted as a symbol of the Nazi Party of Germany in 1920, who used the swastika as a symbol of the Aryan race.

It existed for thousands of years, before Adolf Hitler was even around to steal, corrupt, and abuse it. The 'Nazi's' were not Aryans...

Aryan /ˈɛərjən/ is an English language loanword derived from the Sanskrit ārya ('Noble').[1][2][3] In present-day academia, the terms "Indo-Iranian" and "Indo-European" have, according to many, made most uses of the term 'Aryan' minimal, and 'Aryan' is now mostly limited to its appearance in the term "Indo-Aryan" for Indic languages and their speakers.

Etymology [edit]Usage of Aryan [edit]Scholarly usage Indo-Iranian languages (Indo-Aryan or Indic, Nuristani, and Iranian languages)[2][6][7] [edit]Contemporary usage Among Hindu nationalists, the Hindu/Indian people

The English word "Aryan" is borrowed from the Sanskrit word ārya meaning 'Noble';[1] it was used initially as a national name to designate those who worshipped the Vedic deities (especially Indra) and followed Vedic culture (e.g. performance of sacrifice, Yajna).[1][12] The Zend airya 'venerable' and Old Persian ariya are also considered as national names.

In Iranian context the original self-identifier lives on in ethnic names like "Alani", "Ir".[15] Similarly, The word Iran is the Persian word for land/place of the Aryans.

The Hexagram is none other than a predated form of the Star of David, or Seal of Sol-Om-On. The hexgram predates either of these symbols, as it is found in none other than the Tree of life, itself derived from the Flower of life. It is also intimately tied to Hinduism, and represents the Anahata, or Heart Chakra.

The hexagram may be found in some Churches and stained-glass windows. An example of this is one embedded in the ceiling of the Washington National Cathedral. In Christianity it is often called the star of creation. In Orthodox Christian churches, for example in Balkan countries, hexagrams can be found more often than in Roman Catholic churches.

Om, is the word of creation, and mantra of the Ajna Chakra: Third eye, Pineal gland.

Om ओ३म्or aum (help·info) (written universally as ॐ; in Devanagari as ओं oṃ [õː], औं auṃ [ə̃ũ], or 'ओ३म्' om [õːm]) is a mystical Sanskrit sound of Hindu origin, sacred and important in various Dharmic religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. The syllable is also referred to as omkara (ओंकार oṃkāra) or aumkara (औंकार auṃkāra), literally "om syllable", and in Sanskrit it is sometimes referred to as प्रणव (praṇava), literally "that which is sounded out loudly". Om is also written ओ३म् (ō̄m [õːːm]), where ३ is प्लुत (pluta, "three times as long"), indicating a length of three morae (that is, the time it takes to say three syllables)—an overlong nasalized close-mid back rounded vowel—though there are other enunciations adhered to in received traditions.

It is placed at the beginning of most Hindu texts as a sacred incantation to be intoned at the beginning and end of a reading of the Vedas or prior to any prayer or mantra. It is used at the end of the invocation to the god being sacrificed to (anuvakya) as an invitation to and for that God to partake of the sacrifice.. The Māndukya Upanishad is entirely devoted to the explanation of the syllable. The syllable consists of three phonemes, a (Vaishvanara),[1] u (Hiranyagarbha), and m (Ishvara), which symbolize the beginning, duration, and dissolution of the universe and the associated gods Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, respectively.[2] The name omkara is taken as a name of God in the Hindu revivalist Arya Samaj and can be translated as "I Am Existence"

Ankh represents eternal life, much like the cross represents the eternal life and salvation of the cross of Jesus Christ.

The Ankh (pron.: /ˈæŋk/ or /ˈɑːŋk/; U+2625 ☥ or U+132F9 𓋹), also known as key of life, the key of the Nile or crux ansata (Latin meaning "cross with a handle"), was the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic character that read "life", a triliteral sign for the consonants ꜥ-n-ḫ. It represents the concept of eternal life, which is the general meaning of the symbol. The Egyptian gods are often portrayed carrying it by its loop, or bearing one in each hand, arms crossed over their chest. The origin of ankh is highly debated and it is represented by an oval or point-down teardrop set atop a T shape.

It is by Egyptologists called the symbol of life. It is also called the "handled cross", or crux ansata. It represents the male triad and the female unit, under a decent form. There are few symbols more commonly met with in Egyptian art. In some remarkable sculptures, where the sun's rays are represented as terminating in hands, the offerings which these bring are many a crux ansata, emblematic of the truth that a fruitful union is a gift from the deity.

It is an Egyptian symbol closely related to that of both the Swastika and Yin-Yang, representing the union and balance of Duality..

Didn't Jesus say something about making the two one?

Jesus saw some children who were taking the breast: he said to his disciples: "These little ones who suck are like those who enter the Kingdom." They said to him: "If we are little, shall we enter the Kingdom?" Jesus says to them: "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the upper like the lower! And if you make the male and female one, so that the male is no longer male and the female no longer female, and when you put eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in the place of a hand, and a foot in the place of a foot, and an image in the place of an image, then you will enter [the Kingdom!"]

Ouroboros, represents the wheel of life, death and rebirth.

Plato described a self-eating, circular being as the first living thing in the universe—an immortal, mythologically constructed entity.

The living being had no need of eyes because there was nothing outside of him to be seen; nor of ears because there was nothing to be heard; and there was no surrounding atmosphere to be breathed; nor would there have been any use of organs by the help of which he might receive his food or get rid of what he had already digested, since there was nothing which went from him or came into him: for there was nothing beside him. Of design he created thus; his own waste providing his own food, and all that he did or suffered taking place in and by himself. For the Creator conceived that a being which was self-sufficient would be far more excellent than one which lacked anything; and, as he had no need to take anything or defend himself against any one, the Creator did not think it necessary to bestow upon him hands: nor had he any need of feet, nor of the whole apparatus of walking; but the movement suited to his spherical form which was designed by him, being of all the seven that which is most appropriate to mind and intelligence; and he was made to move in the same manner and on the same spot, within his own limits revolving in a circle. All the other six motions were taken away from him, and he was made not to partake of their deviations. And as this circular movement required no feet, the universe was created without legs and without feet.[7]

In Gnosticism, this serpent symbolized eternity and the soul of the world. The Gnostic text Pistis Sophia describes the disc of the sun as a 12-part dragon with his tail in his mouth

Are there any other nonsensical and foolish claims you would like to make while we are at it, so that I can continue to debunk them, and point out the ignorance of dogmatic religions like Christianity?

For a while I have subscribed to the idea that the God mentioned in the Bible was the trickster himself. The entire Garden of Eden story is very interesting, but also very eerie.

reply to post by Akragon


Isaiah 45 verse 7 . This will tell you that God is Omnipotent . He is over everything . He set this negative verses Positive relation up .He selected the principle parties in this contest . You have the right to select your polar opposite . Just like we will play games for our own amusement setting in motion the good and bad outcomes , God has chosen to set this game in motion . But both of us have our favored outcomes .
It is the only game you will play ! Play it well and be aware of the final results .

Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by Akragon

 

Isaiah 45 verse 7 . This will tell you that God is Omnipotent . He is over everything . He set this negative verses Positive relation up .He selected the principle parties in this contest . You have the right to select your polar opposite . Just like we will play games for our own amusement setting in motion the good and bad outcomes , God has chosen to set this game in motion . But both of us have our favored outcomes .
It is the only game you will play ! Play it well and be aware of the final results .

Most "role playing" games have dungeon masters who are the Gods of the realm... and they are not on the players side...

IF we are spirits playing the role of humans... there is likely a dungeon master...

And the creator of the game never plays that role... hes got better things to do...

reply to post by Akragon


Good analogy right there

Only being twenty years old, I played my fair share of video games, namely RPG's, before becoming infatuated with the search for truth, advancement of consciousness and knowledge, and research.

Now I might play a game every once in a while for an hour or so to unwind and rest from the enormous amounts of research I do daily.

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Heres another one if you're searching for "truth"...

Everyone has seen the matrix... Jesus was Neo in a sense...

the one, born to show the world the truth...

reply to post by Akragon


I am fairly familiar with the Matrix films, and their highly relevant philosophies underlying a fantastic movie. I enjoyed them for the cool effects and fight scenes while I was younger; however now, I enjoy and appreciate the philosophy and truths behind the movies far much more than I had originally.

Thank you for that clip; I had not seen it in quite some time, and it was fairly relevant, as always, to our current paradigm.

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Rather than a long winded defense of how Nazism and theosophy are not linked How about you address the other points in my post. Instead you show us your naivety and how someone can come to the conclusion that God = the devil by reading channeled (by whom?)convoluted amalgamated inversions by the likes of Blavatsky . The people who's ideas helped to form the ideology of the Nazi party.

Judge a tree by its fruits. Lets see God - Fruits = Life, Choice, Intelligence, Existence, Love,Salvation
Devil - Fruits = Fall from grace, Pride, Deception, Death(?),

Why must a thread be so long? Does anyone read the whole thing? Does anyone have time to read the whole thing? Do you have jobs? Go to work for crying out loud



In the Hebrew bible, the word Elohim is used. It is plural, but was mistranslated into a singular, or God. Elohim means, "many who come from the sky"

Yaweh, a Eloha (singular), is the leader of that culture. He allowed for the creation of man on this planet. Lucifer, another Eloha, was one of the scientists that worked on that genetic creation. He loved his work and the humanity he created. Finally, Satan, another Eloha, was completely opposed to this genetic creation and saw it as a threat to the Elohim race. He thought nothing good could come from man and that we are simply too violent. He might be right...


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Originally posted by NihilistSanta
reply to post by VeritasAequitas

 

Rather than a long winded defense of how Nazism and theosophy are not linked

How about you address the other points in my post. Instead you show us your naivety and how someone can come to the conclusion that God = the devil by reading channeled (by whom?)convoluted amalgamated inversions by the likes of Blavatsky . The people who's ideas helped to form the ideology of the Nazi party.

Judge a tree by its fruits. Lets see God - Fruits = Life, Choice, Intelligence, Existence, Love,Salvation
Devil - Fruits = Fall from grace, Pride, Deception, Death(?),

So instead of debunking my own rebuttal's of your ignorance on the symbols your wrongly classified; you go off on a rant about Blavatsky because of Hitler who misinterpreted her works?

Yeah whatever man. Try and have a reasonable debate next time

I enjoyed the moving of goal posts..

By the way something I would like to point out..

The CIA and NSA have published material on children's sites, about the uses of anagrams to convey a coded message....

www.thedavincigame.com...

Isn't Santa, an anagram of Satan? So your username suggests you are a follower of satan who believes there is no underlying meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value to life...

And you accuse me of demon worship...

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by VeritasAequitas

 

Heres another one if you're searching for "truth"...

Everyone has seen the matrix... Jesus was Neo in a sense...

the one, born to show the world the truth...

edit on 23-1-2013 by Akragon because: (no reason given)

Jesus would only be Neo if Jesus mission was to overthrow God. The matrix is a semi-gnostic telling of the antichrist (neo) overthrowing the Architect (God). I love the inversion theme going on here though in this thread. I am starting to understand how it works. Give the gnostic/theosophist/satanist 50 to 100 years and they can invert anything with mass media and dictate your morality. Crowley liked the Idea of making the Villain the Hero. I noticed this with children's movies now. The heroes are all Witches,Werewolves and Vampires while the villains are the misguided normal bigoted humans.

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How about you actually read Blavatsky's work, in context mind you, I know how you religious zealots like to take esoteric texts out of context to suit your blasphemous agendas, which by the way, your God disproves of; and determine the kind of beliefs and ideals she really advocated...Hm?

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Are the gnostic scriptures written by "Satan... Santa"?

Are you calling me a Satanist?