I got punched in the face for asking for my receipt; literally.

I had the idea to go and get some food at the corner store.

Little did I know, that when I was almost done paying for my goods,
it occured to me that this guy didn't give me my receipt. And this always
happens at other food restaurants, most notably some blue chips in Canada.

So I said this exactly, and sort of arrogantly:
"- You know what, every time I come in here, and it's not just here; other places too, but I never
get my receipt. And this is an issue and a legal "thing.", and as a customer I feel that
I am entitled to my hard-copy receipt at my point of transaction. And each time I come in here
from now on I'm going to start asking for it

It might have sounded rude, for sure, but I definitely did not raise my voice. Nor did I swear. And that's when "it" began. The "hate." It's happened before apparently. This guy does not like people on disability or "low income" citizens, because he feels that people on welfare are "bums." who do nothing all day except "mooch off the gubbermint."

When he replied "You have to ask for it."

I said "I know, I'm going to start asking for it."

So what he did, initially after that acidic reaction was: he began swearing like he was rinsing with shampoo.

Swear. Repeat. Swear. Repeat. You get the picture.
That's when I involved a nearby customer who said.. absolutely nothing.
And that's when he yelled at me to get out of his store.

At this point I believed him to have thought that I wanted the receipt right now and then, which
of course is not possible because he is running a manual machine. I replied "Can you
stop swearing at me? This is ridiculous. You're coming off as aggressive and threatening.

This is the exact moment when he raised his arms from his body, and physically shoved me away
from the front of his counter and told me to get out of his store one more time. At this time,
another couple of customers were inside the store and had seen the whole event. At this point
nobody was saying anything again.

This is when he ran around the side of the counter, grabbed me by the collar of my coat, and literally tried
to drag me out of his store forcefully. I tried with all of my might to hang on to whatever I could as he
hurled a deuce set of punches to my face and my back, until
eventually I stared him in the face after he walked away to get his phone to call the cops, and began punching him as he tried to defend himself in the side of the head.

It was at this point when eventually I walked outside and said
to somebody:


"Why didn't you say something? This is what happened in 1938 when Hitler was lining
up the Jews on the side of the road and shooting them in the back of the head. When
nobody says anything, violence and brutal force occurs."

The understanding was that next time I would come in and ask for my receipt, however, after
asking somebody to refrain from threatening me and basically becoming a "domestic terrorist."
after using brutal force on me.

I refused to leave his store, because I didn't think it was against the law, or against
corporate policies to ask for a receipt next visit. Nor was it against
corporate policy to request one of your employees to refrain from threatening,
swearing or using excessive violence against you.

Perhaps a " Sir, may I have a receipt?" would have worked out for you better rather than the diatribe about legality and etc.

I don`t think you`ll have to worry about getting a receipt next time because you probably won`t be allowed in that store again.
but Yeah, he did kind of overreact.

I'm not saying the owner acted appropriately, but neither did you. He has the right to kick you out of his store if he wants to, you don't have the right to resist.

reply to post by Advantage


Well a simple "Next time I will give you your receipt." would have sufficed as well.

Not a verbal tirade of violence.

reply to post by Advantage



As much as I disagree with the stores actions I agree with your statement. We are dealing with people after all and who knows what he or she is brooding over before that statement comes out that broke the camels back. Doesn't sound like a restaurant I would visit however.

dude...

are you sure you wasnt penting frustration...and someone called your bluff!?

call the police

and yes..you should of left his store...its private property and not public.


BTW...no one gets involved anymore...repurcussions for "helpers" are too severe...even with the police.
the term... "but why did you get involved" echoes through history


peace

reply to post by SpearMint


We all have a right to resist!

Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by SpearMint

 

We all have a right to resist!

No, you don't. If he wants you off his property then you should get off.

I'm sorry but you were kind of asking for it The guy does not care about you or your receipt most likely, next time ask nicely and shortly without the complaint. He basically thought you were messing with him I think.

reply to post by thePharaoh


What bluff? Of course I had pent up anger, but I didn't come off as angry. I came off as rude.

He doesn't have the right to ask me to leave his store, for not doing anything against
corporate policy or against the law.

The bake store near my place also doesn't want me in my store. It has openly admitted it is
"communist:" affiliated with the Alberta Business Association. I came in there
one time on a tirade, non-violently but of course I am very annoying, but a simple "I'm not interested"
would suffice.

And I did leave. But of course the owner, not only did he disagree with me, he "effectively" banned me from his property for no legal reason.

This is unbelievable.

Well now you know and knowing is half the batter.. G.I. Joe!

reply to post by streetfightingman


Wait, let me get this straight...

You stated you would like receipts for all further times you visit.

Tension sparked where he physically assaulted you.

Then he went to call the cops while you were punching him?

Then you walked outside and mentioned Germany to a quiet civilian who obviously didn't want to involve himself in your dispute...

Perhaps you should have clarified your statement to the cashier...

I have never ever had the slightest trouble getting a receipt from anyone.
I don't remember ever even needing to actually ask for a receipt.
I sometimes turn down the receipt if I'm just going to throw it out anyways.

Maybe you should have just said "I need my receipt"

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by SpearMint

 

We all have a right to resist!

No, you don't. If he wants you off his property then you should get off.

edit on 14-1-2013 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)

Justify it though. For what? I didn't do anything wrong. I came off as rude, like a lot of people
sometimes who are having a bad day, or have mental health issues - or for whatever reason at all.

The bottom line is that you don't threaten, infringe on the security, safety or rights of
another citizen when he asks you to stop infringing on them. I asked him
prior to his request to refrain from swearing etc.

Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by streetfightingman

 

Wait, let me get this straight...

You stated you would like receipts for all further times you visit.

Tension sparked where he physically assaulted you.

Then he went to call the cops while you were punching him?

Then you walked outside and mentioned Germany to a quiet civilian who obviously didn't want to involve himself in your dispute...

Perhaps you should have clarified your statement to the cashier...

I did, that's when he raised his voice and began swearing at me, and I replied with a nullifying
act in relation to his swearing act.

Originally posted by Advantage
Perhaps a " Sir, may I have a receipt?" would have worked out for you better rather than the diatribe about legality and etc.

This ^. You are painting yourself as the victim, yeah you should not have been physically hit, but you came of as massively rude and condescending. Can't really judge the whole situation as its coming from just your side, but maybe next time, before they start scanning things, just casually say 'oh, may I please grab my receipt for this too?' Retail workers are people too. The amount of times i've been treated like dirt for serving someone, we don't exist for you to wipe your feet on and leave. We have families and **** to buy ourselves when our shift is up.

Originally posted by streetfightingman

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by SpearMint

 

We all have a right to resist!

No, you don't. If he wants you off his property then you should get off.

edit on 14-1-2013 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)

Justify it though. For what? I didn't do anything wrong. I came off as rude, like a lot of people
sometimes who are having a bad day, or have mental health issues - or for whatever reason at all.

The bottom line is that you don't threaten, infringe on the security, safety or rights of
another citizen when he asks you to stop infringing on them. I asked him
prior to his request to refrain from swearing etc.

And he asked you to get out of his store, before things got physical. You didn't, things got physical, he told you to get out and you still didn't.

reply to post by bkaust


That wouldn't have mattered.

Because then he would have said: "I can't give it to you."

That's when I would have made the statement for the future clause in my act.

Originally posted by streetfightingman

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by SpearMint

 

We all have a right to resist!

No, you don't. If he wants you off his property then you should get off.

edit on 14-1-2013 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)

Justify it though. For what? I didn't do anything wrong. I came off as rude, like a lot of people
sometimes who are having a bad day, or have mental health issues - or for whatever reason at all.

The bottom line is that you don't threaten, infringe on the security, safety or rights of
another citizen when he asks you to stop infringing on them. I asked him
prior to his request to refrain from swearing etc.

He doesn't have to refrain from swearing. He doesnt have to give you a reason, or justify it to you. If he tells you to get out and you don't you're trespassing.