Cameron: Britain would fight another war with Argentina to keep the Falkland Islands

reply to post by kingmonkey


OMG they have lived there for over 170 years, they were the first people to have a permanent settlement there.
Argentina wasn't even around at that time and like others have said Argentina was founded by conquistadors from spain, so If we give the falklands back the Argentinians have to give Argentina back to the natives....but the Falklands never had natives on it.
GOOD GOD PEOPLE READ THE BLOODY THREAD I'M SICK OF SAYING THE SAME THINGS.
Gonna make a brew and watch Dexter now

The absurd stupidity of some of the posters in this thread is staggering!

Unlike UFO's, and CIA cover-ups, the history of these islands is laid bare, all over the Internet. So you don't need to create a story, history has already supplied that.

There are facts, that I have relatively no interest in, by the way, but they are freely available, so why come jumping in with both left feet, spewing BS about something that you have clearly not read up on!

Talk about morons, some early posters actually think the climate is good too, God help us all.

Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by ObservingYou

Actually I'm pretty good friends with an older Scottish gentleman who was posted to Faulklands -
If you consider sending a trained proffesional army over to a distant island to slaughter women and children fighting for their indepenace a GOOD cause, you are very much mistaken.

When re-counting his exsperiences the grown man, broke down and cried in the pub - he said it altered everything about him.

A few alternate history books may change your opinion also.

And they are not "our" people - WTF have we got in common?!

Sorry, but this is total rubbish. The Falklanders were fighting for their independance? Women and children being killed by British troops? Yeah, right! Total honk.

We were fighting to free them from a bunch of mass-murdering facists.

edit on 6-1-2013 by AngryCymraeg because: Typo

Sorry I didn't structure that sentence correctly, please ignore (posting from mobile whilst traveling round town)

mass-murdering facists.

Doesn't this line accurately describe 2013 British Empire and the USA also?

Originally posted by EvanB
reply to post by Rapha

 

It may be about the black stuff for the elites..

Guinness?

Originally posted by kingmonkey

Hmm, so you take land thousands of miles from your own land, populate it, call these people indigenous, then have them vote to decide the fate of this land. Sounds fair.

As a previous poster has said, the Empire is over. Perhaps Cameron would do well to hand back the Malvinas and apologise to every country the British Empire has spilled blood in.

By the same yardstick would you like to see Australia given back to the Aborigines? New Zealand to the Maories? Oregon and most of the Mid-West given back to the Native Americans?
The Falklanders have been there since 1833. I think that gives them a stake in matters.

Originally posted by MickeyMarley

Originally posted by EvanB
reply to post by Rapha

 

It may be about the black stuff for the elites..

Guinness?

I have long suspected that the good Guinness is being hoarded by the Irish, based on how astonishingly good it was the last time I was in Dublin...

reply to post by AngryCymraeg


Its all from the same place now (Its the way you pour it) This comes from Manchester best Guinness dispenser 92 (beat 4 Irish guys)

Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by ObservingYou
Do you really think we were over there to fight for a minority of people who claim to be British?

I can promise you, most us Brits do not consider those people far away across the sea as British - far from it.

A minority ? 99% is a minority now is it?

As for your second line, you're talking out of your arse. Everyone I know is 100% behind defending them.

Originally posted by ObservingYou
Actually I'm pretty good friends with an older Scottish gentleman who was posted to Faulklands -
If you consider sending a trained proffesional army over to a distant island to slaughter women and children fighting for their indepenace a GOOD cause, you are very much mistaken.

When re-counting his exsperiences the grown man, broke down and cried in the pub - he said it altered everything about him.

A few alternate history books may change your opinion also.

And they are not "our" people - WTF have we got in common?!

Now I know you're just talking crap.... Everything you just said above is a bare faced lie.

How did we send an army to "slaughter women and children fighting for independence? Jesus man, what are you smoking? Do you know anything about the Falklands at all?

How, now, brown cow, calm down and talk with some manners, how very un-British of you.

Firstly, when I said "minority", I was referring to the fact it is only small nation with a fairly small populace - it's not like we're "liberating" a high priority nation.

As for your assumption "Everybody in the UK wants them liberated", well clearly that's wrong because I'm in the UK, and I completely reject the possibility of further military intervention. Geese, we trying to get our troops home as it is

Thirdly my story is NOT a bare faced lie - Thanks for the trust, something clearly lacking in this day and age.

I'm merely repeating what I heard from a Falkland Veteran - Please do tell me why he would lie?

It's called subversion - make the people think they are getting what they want - this tactic works superbly on most.

"We're going to rescue people! Lets go into another war! Yay!"

No wonder we're all so easy to control

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by kingmonkey

 

OMG they have lived there for over 170 years, they were the first people to have a permanent settlement there.
Argentina wasn't even around at that time and like others have said Argentina was founded by conquistadors from spain, so If we give the falklands back the Argentinians have to give Argentina back to the natives....but the Falklands never had natives on it.
GOOD GOD PEOPLE READ THE BLOODY THREAD I'M SICK OF SAYING THE SAME THINGS.
Gonna make a brew and watch Dexter now

OMG

If all this is the same as what you have been saying previously, maybe that is why you are feeling sick?

In response to your opening posts and in the interest of balance for any non-UK ATS folk, not all people from the island of Britain share this tub thumping arrogant mentality.

reply to post by ObservingYou


Well for a start you mentioned fighting for independence (???) and also murdering women and children. There's no way that the former is right and the latter is demonstrably untrue.

Not really into war but I would be 100% behind a task force being sent to the South Atlantic if needed regardless if our goverment is just protecting oil, We the people will protect the islanders .
Not that I think the Argies will invade this time, The Argentinian president distracting from problems at home me thinks.

As for the Poster who stated that he heard British forces Murdered , Raped Women and Children, What utter nonsense !
If you knew anything about the conflict ,The task force spent 2 weeks fighting the Argies who was holed up in the mountains , just the place women and children would be eh?

Like its already been said ,let the islanders decide.

reply to post by ObservingYou


I'm sorry, but it is a bare faced lie. I'll say it even more directly, you're "mate" is a liar or, more likely, simply made up. Only 3 civilians died during the whole sorry affair caused by a stray shell. The Islands have a monument to those who died and list only 3 people as being lost.

What proof, if any, do you have of any massacres or that we went there to fight the islanders?

reply to post by MickeyMarley


That stuff is the real black gold sshhh!

If the Falklands had mass stocks of Guinness under it i'd have booked my flight long ago

Originally posted by Zcustosmorum
What a sleaze ball, this is decoration playing to the voters. And Argentina are in no position for war. Pathetic

And Rupert Murdoch and his toilet rag The Sun can get lost also, it's nothing but sabre rattling to the public.

edit on 6-1-2013 by Zcustosmorum because: (no reason given)

Well said if Syria isn't enough blood then Argentina is and all this because the Falkland Islands have the oil

Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by kingmonkey

Hmm, so you take land thousands of miles from your own land, populate it, call these people indigenous, then have them vote to decide the fate of this land. Sounds fair.

As a previous poster has said, the Empire is over. Perhaps Cameron would do well to hand back the Malvinas and apologise to every country the British Empire has spilled blood in.

By the same yardstick would you like to see Australia given back to the Aborigines? New Zealand to the Maories? Oregon and most of the Mid-West given back to the Native Americans?
The Falklanders have been there since 1833. I think that gives them a stake in matters.

Well thankfully these islands, unlike the places you mention, were unpopulated thus saving any indigenous people the fate your Aborigines, Maoris, Native American.........Africans, Irish, Indian etc etc experienced at the hands of the British.

Establishing a garrison of troops on an island at the other side of the world from your own should not, IMO, give your claim of sovereignty any more weight.

This is the funniest topic I've ever seen on ATS, filled with stupid people who can't be bothered to do a simple Google search on the history of the islands compared to the establishment of the Argentinian state, I love it!
Carry on people, bleating like a lost lamb on a digital hillside will not provide any internationally recognised claim for Argentina to the Falklands oilfields

Originally posted by InitiumArietis
There is possibly a diplomatic solution to this. We keep the Falkland's and they can have Northern Ireland

Problem is that the Irish will be taking Northern Ireland back in the not to distant future (Democratically of course)

An Argentinian flag above Belfast city hall would certainly add to tensions, not half as much as when the tri colour goes up though

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


Who started the sabre rattling? I think you will find it was the Argentinians or Ms Kirchner, she is doing it to deflect her own 27% approval rating.
Most Argentinians can see this.
She keeps on bleating complete BS which is hypocritical and just nonsense, Cam (Still hate him but I agree with him here) has just warned her off, that is all.
The only way we will go to war is If Argentina tries to invade, which they will not because they have no chance.
We will be defending our people and territories from invasion which is allowed by international law and any other country in the world would do the same.

Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
reply to post by ObservingYou

 

Well for a start you mentioned fighting for independence (???) and also murdering women and children. There's no way that the former is right and the latter is demonstrably untrue.

That's what you get for shopping and typing at once, I merged sentences, hence it don't make sense - I have explained that previously.

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by ObservingYou

 

I'm sorry, but it is a bare faced lie. I'll say it even more directly, you're "mate" is a liar or, more likely, simply made up. Only 3 civilians died during the whole sorry affair caused by a stray shell. The Islands have a monument to those who died and list only 3 people as being lost.

What proof, if any, do you have of any massacres or that we went there to fight the islanders?

How many times? Only his word. Deal with it.