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Originally posted by ibiubu
reply to post by bknapple32
There is a strong potential that he caused his cancer from doping, Alberto Contador suffered a rare aneurysm congruent with EPO usage.
how is he robbing money and giving it to cancer research ? Oh you think I'm talking about his own winnings. No. I said raised money and awareness.
Originally posted by FlySolo
Originally posted by bknapple32
Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by bknapple32
Does the word integrity mean anything to you?
Absolutely. I could care less about his bicycle rides. I do care about real things like cancer and the raising of money for cancer research. With your insensitivity showing from your left testicle joke, I'm going to guess you don't have anyone in your immediate family with cancer.
How do you derive insensitivity from my testicular joke aimed at Armstrong as being focused on an entire group? That's a strawman btw. With your logic, I could go rob banks all day and give the money to cancer research. Think they'll be happy? Or maybe con a few people from craigslist...or...See my point yet?
Originally posted by FlySolo
Originally posted by bknapple32
The good he has done for cancer research.
You can't do good when you have blood on your hands. It's an oxymoron.edit on 5-1-2013 by FlySolo because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by WhereIsTheBatman
Lance Armstrong Doping Admission Could Be Coming Soon
www.huffingtonpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
The New York Times reported Friday that Lance Armstrong, who has strongly denied the doping charges that led to him being stripped of his seven Tour de France titles, has told associates he is considering admitting to the use of performance-enhancing drugs.
I'm talking about him raising awareness and much needed money for cancer
Originally posted by FlyersFan
I don't believe that there is 'an admission coming soon'.
I think it's Huffington Post (or whoever) just grabbing headlines.
I'd be very surprised to see some kind of admission from him.
Unless something new comes to light, the charges against him are bogus.
He has had hundreds of body fluid tests over the years. He passed them all.
So .. unless it comes straight from his mouth .. I"m not buying it.
Originally posted by swimmer15
reply to post by FlySolo
It's foolish to just completely ignore what he's done because his method. Regardless of what you or I think of him he got cancer, beat it and did so while performing at the highest physical levels of human capability. Do I think he's the hero everyone thought he was? No.i never thought he was clean..
I do however think he knows more about athletics, nutrition, sports medicine and injury recovery/ prevention and probably cancer than 95% of the idiots who talk on the subjects.
Also, last month, anecdotes surfaced of Armstrong receiving six-figure daily fees for ride-with-Lance-type benefits. One 2005 event was in Canada for the British Columbia Cancer Foundation’s Tour of Courage. And in Norway, the newspaper VG reported a disagreement over whether $400,000 went to Livestrong or Armstrong for a 2009 visit to Oslo. When it was established that the appearance deal was to pay Armstrong, and not Livestrong directly, cyclist Dag Erik Peterson said he still thought the money was for the charity, saying that he saw Armstrong riding in Livestrong cycling gear and “mixed his roles. That’s not fair.”
In October, Betsy Andreu and Kathy LeMond described to Roopstigo a 2008 email Armstrong had sent to Sen. John Kerry that threatened to use the Livestrong database against the Democratic Party if then-presidential hopeful Barack Obama did not attend the cyclist’s cancer summit. Although there is no evidence that Armstrong acted on the ultimatum—Obama was in Germany and did not attend the event—it is against 501(c)(3) regulations for a tax exempt organization to wield political influence either for or against political candidates.
Originally posted by WhereIsTheBatman
reply to post by magma
It's not cheating when everybody does it. It's just a well guarded "secret".
Originally posted by magma
Not so well guarded is it. He got a life ban. And not everyone does it. You must live in a world of make believe.
Originally posted by swimmer15
reply to post by FlySolo
I admit he's a scumbag .. I wasn't trying to argue his character, like I said before I never thought he was clean and was disgusted by him when I read about the way he treated people who spoke out about it. It just heightened my suspicion with his response to allegations. Doesn't mean we can't learn from him and his experiences.