Anyone seen or heared from David Wilcock?

reply to post by Komonazmuk

ahhhhaaaaa......jolly good....lol

Fear mongered prediction? Are you insane? The lightworker's purpose is to live in Love, not Fear. And share that with as many people as possible while raising up the Earth.

The rest of your ad-hominem attacks I will completely ignore, because I choose to deny ignorance.

Originally posted by TheCanuckian

Originally posted by fourthmeal

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
Who cares, this guy is another one of them in the new age category who makes predictions of this that and the other whcih all never come true. Seriously its got to the point that a poker machine will have much better odds of paying dividends than DW.

edit on 30-12-2012 by AthlonSavage because: (no reason given)

I'm going to defend him on the grounds of "making predictions". He, like most lightworkers, are just trying to help. It is fine that you don't appreciate his work, or for that matter it is fine you don't like him or his work at all. Whatever. BUT, you'll take note that he has not "predicted" anything of recent, or of months past. He's learned, just like I have and many others, that timelines do not have predictability worth even bothering about. Things will happen, and he has just become an observer and documenter of this.

As have I.

Ok Woah there. You're telling us that you guys can't give specific dates now and that we should just believe your fear mongered prediction will just happen? That's the BIGGEST cop-out I've ever seen. This guys is all about money for God's sakes, wake up!
Wow you have stooped to the lowest of lows haven't you! What are you guys the walking messiahs now? Shall we follow you around constantly asking for your advice while giving you a cheque for each question we want answered?

Light beings? Gimme a break already. You need help. The only thing light about this is the facts.

edit on 31-12-2012 by TheCanuckian because: (no reason given)

All I hear here is a bunch of negative nancy attitude, with people using made-up rhetorical phrases like parroting MSM sources, all the while spouting ad-hominems like they are going out of style (and they ARE.)

IF you don't like the guy or his message, fine. That's not debatable, that's your opinion and you are welcome to have one. You are also welcome to dislike his approach, his for-profit work, etc. Whatever.

But why on Earth do you attack a man for being all about fear and doom when he has specifically spoke AGAINST fear and doom? I told you before, judging a person is just shining a mirror on your own soul, and yet you do not listen. This will come back to bite you, and you'll be judged by yourself in the same manner. Do you bring light to the world? Do you try to take irrational fear away from people? Do you bother to stick your neck out and try to expose corruption for the higher good of everyone? No? Well then, how do you pass judgement on someone else despite this?

I don't agree with everything DW puts out there. But his older books about great subjects like N.A. Kozyrev, global consciousness, the experiments done with DNA sampling, his research into "Financial Tyranny" which became a HUGE deal and has come to fruition even in mainstream news, and his approach to a No Fear, No Doom future scenario is what I like. Also I really appreciate his Law of One study guide, because the LoO info without it can be very complicated, like calculus to a 3rd grader.

Judge information using higher discernment, and if the info does not resonate with you, discard and move on. But to judge the human being who is trying to make a difference... man I don't think you have the right. In fact I KNOW you don't. And neither do I, or anybody else on this planet.

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OK they are nothing alike,,,,,,,,,,,,wilCOCK has presented everything that is considered not factual and he beleived/beleives it ..for example: jump rooms LOL.......Atleast Ike has an original theory. Right or wrong.

In "defense" of those accusing people of making money: Yes, people charge money for attendees to see their lectures, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR "AGENDA". I don't know of a single one who would volunteer explaining their life's work several times over for free. We all have bills to pay. To all those who say such persons are "in it for the money" -- well that's a half truth. Of course they are in it for the money, so they can continue to eat, house, clothe themselves, and continue the work they are doing (writing, traveling, etc.). Nothing wrong with that. Jealous much?

Is there something important that you've studied for years, maybe decades, that you'd like to share with the world? If so, would you volunteer your time for free or donations perhaps? No? Then stop harping on it, ultra-hypocrites!

reply to post by fourthmeal

The rest of your ad-hominem attacks I will completely ignore, because I choose to deny ignorance.

I am not to sure you are while your defending the likes of David Wilcock...

But hey if you choose to believe who can stop you....Correct?

reply to post by tsurfer2000h


Deleted. My apologies. I mistakenly responded to a post that was *not* in response to my post. Sorries!

reply to post by Jonro


It's heard, not heared. Come on now, if your trying to insult someone or act high and mighty at least spell a simple word right. You make yourself look foolish.

Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by fourthmeal

 

The rest of your ad-hominem attacks I will completely ignore, because I choose to deny ignorance.

I am not to sure you are while your defending the likes of David Wilcock...

But hey if you choose to believe who can stop you....Correct?

More just defending character. I would likely defend anybody here, or elsewhere, actually, if they were being attacked for just being themselves..

I also choose to defend more fiercely the lightworkers of this world. They can be misguided and wrong, but their heart is in it...and that's more than I can say for many other souls currently here.

The ignorance I am choosing to deny is the blatant ones of accusing someone of something they are or are not. Like I said, you can hate the guy and his message but its not fair to accuse him of fear-mongering. Alex Jones is good example of a fear mongering person...as judged by his ACTIONS.

It is obvious he was a snake oil salesman. A lightworker? You mean a lightener of accounts! Shame on him for taking advantage of people looking for answers!

Folks to yourselves! It is all in you!

reply to post by anjuna

Is there something important that you've studied for years, maybe decades, that you'd like to share with the world? If so, would you volunteer your time for free or donations perhaps?

Yes, yes and no. That is, there are two "disciplines" (unrelated to each other; both could be considered life-saving, one of them quite literally) that I have extensive expertise in, I have been offering my services free of charge for many years now, and no, I do not accept donations.

It would never occur to me to bring this up, and I couldn't care less if he is in it for the money or not (and it is evident that he is not averse to it, IMO), but since you explicitly asked.... There you go.

I am more appalled by the fact that he apparently hasn't got the guts to even face people after the debacle of his prophecies.
People have failed in endeavors that were FAR more important than his, yet they found the courage to say "I was wrong". In public.
He? He is currently busy writing a "masterpiece" (as per his words).

N.B. This was posted on his blog as an "update" to a post totally unrelated to December 21.

UPDATE SUNDAY 12/23: CAN'T WRITE A MASTERPIECE IN ONE DAY... Hey! I'm working on it. Almost there. This is going to be an all-time classic. I am tying together all different aspects of my work over the years. I decided not to pull an all-nighter and be nice to myself. Therefore it did not deliver on the 22nd. Thanks for your support!

Of course he has no obligation to be "perfect" in any way, and nobody should expect it from him.
But leaving people hanging - while manufacturing a new cash cow - really is bad, bad form.

reply to post by fourthmeal

Again to the defense of pretty much any true lightworker... since when is trying to make a living by charging for time a wrong thing?

You are contradicting yourself. You stated he was not in it for the money and now you say he is earning a living from doing this. So he is in it for the money. It's a job. It's the way he earns a living.

He makes predictions that are failures, failures, failures. Then there are the defenders of this fiasco of his.

The one thing you can be sure of is that anything he says is guaranteed to be wrong.

For those trying to tie him to 2012 doomsday or Ascension stuff, you best do your research. Seriously, you are making an ass out of yourself.

The fool in all of this is the person that repeatedly thinks that Wilcock can ever get things right. He's a laughable con artist. The only thing funnier than DW are his groupies.

reply to post by fourthmeal

If you haven't yet built up a negative impression of the man (Through your own EGO)

My negative impression of WIlcock is based on what Wilcock writes. He passes off fiction as fact. He makes pretend references in which the references do not support the claims he makes. When that happens repeatedly it is not a mistake, but willfully done. It amounts to telling lies.

not trying to convince anybody of anything. The words are pure, as is their intent.

That's a ridiculous claim. His words are anything but pure.

And I remind everyone that judging someone else is merely yourself (Ego) placing judgement upon SELF. And the mirror can be harsh.

Another ridiculous claim. Being able to recognize that some people are frauds is important. Wilcock is a willful liar. That is who he is. That is based on checking what Wilcock writes. You should check out his references and see for yourself instead of accepting his fiction hook,line, and sinker.

reply to post by fourthmeal

Judge information using higher discernment, and if the info does not resonate with you, discard and move on. But to judge the human being who is trying to make a difference... man I don't think you have the right. In fact I KNOW you don't. And neither do I, or anybody else on this planet.

So you just decide to accept his horse pucky because you like it? Facts are not based on liking them.

Check his material and see that he lies all of the time.

The only difference DW makes is a difference in his wealth.

I judge him through what he writes. I do fact checking. His facts are not facts at all.

ahahah I love it. He posts an update about his masterpiece. He was probably booking a ticket to El Segundo. Nothing else to write about after the debacle? Nothing? Not even an explanation? I hope he trips over his lava lamp and cracks his nose over a box-set of Yanni.

What a fluke.

Lightworker? Well, he made light work of many people and now they are in the dark.

His magnum opus should be titled "A Sucker is Born Every Minute of the Baktun Cycle"

or

"I Can't Believe You Believed ME?!"

"How About You Align with the Galactic Center of My ....."

It will Probably be this thread that causes me to leave ATS.

I am disgusted.

reply to post by fourthmeal


The problem with predictions is that they are fundamentally wrapped up in BS. If you specify a date then you have pretty much shot yourself in the foot as it's the next day in Australia so explain that one.

Now if the same lightheadedworkers said something along the lines of "there may be an event between X and Y" or something like "around the month of December something might happen" people would believe them.

I remember some spiritual guy saying that most people are inspired by malevolent and mischievous beings who only have fragments of truth that they lace with their lies - how true this is I don't really know but you could use it to explain why so many predictions fall flat on their face and make the one predicting them look like a total idiot.

A true lightworker would be someone who helps mankind, helping each other to be more humane and empathic and less cold and inhuman.

Wilcock is a fraud fourthmeal. Believe in yourself and not in Mayanmaniacs (Mayacs), born-againers, new-agers, etc....

Take his books and throw them out whilst clutching your matrix/power crystal.

Move on and drop the dead weight my friend!

I have a prophecy of my own. David and his seven foot tall forehead will soon be eating meals in soup kitchens and sleeping in boxes behind fast food restaurants. Nobody is going to buy anything after nothing happened on the 21st.

Or at least I hope nobody will be buying his material. Human beings are idiots by nature though, so I'm probably wrong.

Lmao Zaph....

I honestly think we should report him as missing at the nearest police station.

Do you think maybe Quetzocatl might have bursted out his forehead and eaten him!?