TR-3B

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
reply to post by Soloprotocol

 

in reponse to your comment that the 'shadows are all wrong', i will post the complete picture here and ask you, between the two, to point out problems 'in the shadows'.

note the 'stop sign' shadow of the first pic is actually a 'stick pin'.
from what i know of this shot it was taken from above, inside a hanger, so you would have multiple sources of electric lighting.

it is so wonderful to see that you and the other 'aircraft dudes' here have such genuine intrest in these 'black project' vehicles.

Ok, Here where i find the problems with the shadows...first of all the stick pin you pointed out,...my Bad...i thought that was a stop sign or something in the Hanger...oops..

As for the Shadows...The Aircraft appears to be lit from above and just behind as the shadow is in front of the vehicle, but the people dont seen to be lit in the same way...this is the one that stuck out most to me...as you say the vehicle appears to be in a Hanger....i could be wrong...if i am i apologize.

I have marked the points of interest to me here..

I think the most obvious thing is that the image was simply created artificially for a magazine cover in the first place. You may think it looks different, but if you look closely it's pretty obviously the same image, simply stretched vertically and flipped then changed to sepia, something that can be done on a computer in less than a minute.

Originally posted by waynos
I think the most obvious thing is that the image was simply created artificially for a magazine cover in the first place. You may think it looks different, but if you look closely it's pretty obviously the same image, simply stretched vertically and flipped then changed to sepia, something that can be done on a computer in less than a minute.

Did you notice the aircraft tractor position in the two different photos?

In the magazine cover, there is one under the starboard side aircraft, in the other photo, it is under the port side.

Looks like a flipped version.

the triangle craft is as real as you or me. me, my wife, and three strangers had a once in a lifetime experience with one. one summer night about 3 years ago me and my wife were driving to the downtown gym. as we exited my truck, a particular star caught my eye. it looked like the other stars, but something was strange enough about it to catch my eye. after a good ten seconds of staring at this star it became apparent that this "star" was getting very close very fast. the craft flew directly over our gym parking lot. the craft was so low that a decent quarterback could hit the thing.. while near us, the craft moved very slowly, i'd guess about 20- 30 mph; almost hovering.
this is where it got really strange: three strangers exit the gym look up and one says " holy geez look at that!" i turn right back to the craft to see a purplish "plasma" "crawl " across the sky.. i say plasma because i have never seen a material like this..it looked like a cross between fire and a laser...i say crawl because the way the beam moved didn't look real or natural..it was very unnerving to see...i will go to my grave wondering wh y the craft shot that beam across the sky in a downtown setting... i dont think a military black exercise would want to expose itself like that.. anyway the above story is the absolute truth. it was the pivotal life changing experience that makes me who i am today. it is the reason i joined this site. i dont expect anyone to believe it, but i love this site so much that when i have something to contribute i am happy to do it.

reply to post by butcherguy


Yes that's exactly what I'm talking about, same with the people too, they look different at a glance but its just a mirror image when you compare it.

reply to post by waynos


That actually looks like what I heard the B-2 was originally going to look like before they added the low level mission and made the sawtooth trailing edge.

Thanks for the stories guys...keep em coming....I want to believe in this technology....i believe it will answer so many questions about where do we go after the fossil fuels run out...
Cheers S

As for the Shadows...The Aircraft appears to be lit from above and just behind as the shadow is in front of the vehicle, but the people dont seen to be lit in the same way...this is the one that stuck out most to me...as you say the vehicle appears to be in a Hanger....i could be wrong...if i am i apologize.

I have marked the points of interest to me here..

Most of those people are in the shadows so they wouldnt cast a shadow would they??

Im not saying it isnt fake, Ive never really heard of TR3B and didnt realise it was anti gravity but it makes me wonder why NASA are playing around with a mini unmanned shuttle as their next spy plane which will be launched on a rocket when they could fly a zero gravity craft up there whenever they wanted in the dark and people would be none the wiser...

reply to post by FastJetPilot


lots of reports of triangular craft either coming to a dead stop or flying very slow.....without rotors or visible jet propulsion it must have anti gravity tech....it's the only logical conclusion...

Like yourself, i ask the same question...why keep spending trillions of Tax payers money on various other types of conventional aircraft when/if they have this beast....i think that's what i was asking in my OP...

But when you think about it...if someone has cracked Anti-Gravity and decided it was time to go public with it...it has huge potential not just to the War machine but the worlds fossil fuel industry would be obsolete....That will never happen until it all runs out......so that leaves another question, why oh why do we still invade countries for their fossil fuels.... this is what bothers me most about the TR-B3 riddle...

reply to post by FastJetPilot


Yes, because the shadow thrown by the aircraft does not reach where they are stood, therefore it is not blocking any light to them and they should also cast a shadow.

And if the shadow is being cause by lights in the hangar, how come the people behind the plane also don't cast a shadow? If the light is the sun, then the Hangar itself should cast a shadow over the plane. Whichever way you look at it, its wrong.

There are lots of fabricated TR-3/Aurora etc images on the net. With the amount of camers around now counting in the billions including one on every phone, you'd think that SOMEONE would snap a real image by now.

Originally posted by Soloprotocol
reply to post by FastJetPilot

 

But when you think about it...if someone has cracked Anti-Gravity and decided it was time to go public with it...it has huge potential not just to the War machine but the worlds fossil fuel industry would be obsolete....That will never happen until it all runs out......so that leaves another question, why oh why do we still invade countries for their fossil fuels.... this is what bothers me most about the TR-B3 riddle...

Finally........someone with the correct answer.

Much like I firmly believe there are hidden cures for most every disease, there is the very likely possibility that the TR3b exists, but in the greed of today's society, profit before people.

If anti-gravity exists, and the ability to fly around the world in minutes is reality, there goes the profits of big oil. It's all a grand conspiracy. The worlds economy is based on fossil fuels.

Originally posted by saturnsrings

Originally posted by Soloprotocol
reply to post by FastJetPilot

 

But when you think about it...if someone has cracked Anti-Gravity and decided it was time to go public with it...it has huge potential not just to the War machine but the worlds fossil fuel industry would be obsolete....That will never happen until it all runs out......so that leaves another question, why oh why do we still invade countries for their fossil fuels.... this is what bothers me most about the TR-B3 riddle...

Finally........someone with the correct answer.

Much like I firmly believe there are hidden cures for most every disease, there is the very likely possibility that the TR3b exists, but in the greed of today's society, profit before people.

If anti-gravity exists, and the ability to fly around the world in minutes is reality, there goes the profits of big oil. It's all a grand conspiracy. The worlds economy is based on fossil fuels.

Looking more and more likely..

TR-3B? Fiction.

Every single article and claim about power sources is theoretical and traces back to Nick Cooks "Hunt for Zero Point"

Articles on the web are usually self referencing and/or copies and little or no new material of substance has been added to them.

Its a sci-fi geeks fantasy, and mecca for the "yeah but we keep this under wraps until we hit them with it/the USA has all this secret tech thats soo advanced" crowd.

Aurora? Different proposition.

The tech is believable, the physics possible and the circumstantial evidence is much greater. I don't think it made full producton, but rather was developed in true Skunk Works style with two, maybe three working prototypes, one of which I believe crashed off the NW coast of Scotland, the other was extensively tested over the Pacific/California and the third may have been deployed into the middle east on a few occasions.

Originally posted by Soloprotocol

Originally posted by saturnsrings

Originally posted by Soloprotocol
reply to post by FastJetPilot

 

But when you think about it...if someone has cracked Anti-Gravity and decided it was time to go public with it...it has huge potential not just to the War machine but the worlds fossil fuel industry would be obsolete....That will never happen until it all runs out......so that leaves another question, why oh why do we still invade countries for their fossil fuels.... this is what bothers me most about the TR-B3 riddle...

Finally........someone with the correct answer.

Much like I firmly believe there are hidden cures for most every disease, there is the very likely possibility that the TR3b exists, but in the greed of today's society, profit before people.

If anti-gravity exists, and the ability to fly around the world in minutes is reality, there goes the profits of big oil. It's all a grand conspiracy. The worlds economy is based on fossil fuels.

Looking more and more likely..

I dont necesarily agree in entirity, I read somewhere that Aviation Fuel makes up about 10% of the total oil pumped out, of which, I would assume America is more of a buyer than a seller. So anti gravity wouldnt affect the global oil supply too badly to warrant not progressing it.

However..

America is the largest consumer of oil in the world (60%) with the American Military the largest user in the US.

Some cut and paste:

Defense Energy Support Center (DESC) sold $13 billion of energy to DoD services in FY2006. More than half of it was to Air Force. In terms of fuel types, jet fuel (JP-8) accounts for more than 50% of total DoD energy consumption, and nearly 60% of its mobility fuel.

Anti gravity would save using oil based products on aircraft but this only amounts to about $7billion which is small change to the military, I would imagine productionising a zero gravity system would cost far more than $7b per year so it makes sense they keep it small time and develop it and the knowledge until needed.

reply to post by neformore


I agree. But I'm gonna say that there's more than 3 of them made. Probably closer to ten. And they were operational and still are to this day. However they are not called tr3b and aurora. Sorry

reply to post by boomer135


Hi boomer,


Have you ever seen any of these in action before? or is it just speculation? Do you believe that there is a faster replacement for the SR-71?

Thanks.

one of which I believe crashed off the NW coast of Scotland, the other was extensively tested over the Pacific/California and the third may have been deployed into the middle east on a few occasions.

Hi Nefermore..

Do you have a link to the west of Scotland incident..??

reply to post by Soloprotocol

A massive sea search was launched on Saturday 26th of October after reports of explosions and objects falling into the sea off the West coast of Scotland. At around 17.00hrs eye witnesses reported seeing the explosion in the sky off the Butt of Lewis. The area is the exact point where transatlantic flights enter British airspace. The RAF could not rule out an air collision and mounted a full search which cost £200,000, but they found nothing, or so the official line says. One eye witness reported a large aircraft and a smaller one collide. Another heard a couple of loud bangs and saw debris falling from the sky. But Air Traffic Control at Prestwick said they had no reports of planes missing. A RAF spokesman from Kinross said, "We have a special unit investigating the matter. One of the things we are looking into is that it is space debris. But we are also searching through all the radar tapes around the time of the incident to see if there is any trace of aircraft. Stornoway Coastguard initially mounted a helicopter sea search but as reports increased a RAF Sea King and a Nimrod joined in. Lochinver Lifeboat was launched and all the shipping alerted in the area. A French fishing boat, at the time off Lewis also headed for the area as did the Port Salvo which usually operated in the Minch. Police and ambulance crews were also standing by at Ness, in case of survivors.

www.angelfire.com...

That sounds mundane, I know but....

two days later the same area saw a NATO exercise involving thirty ships and eighty aircraft. Professor Mark Bailey of the Armagh observatory in Northern Ireland admitted he was puzzled and said, "I am torn between this being caused by the military, such as target practice, and a natural phenomena such as a fireball

Not only that, but it appears the Russians approached the exercise area and were turned away.

Circumstantial? Maybe... BUT... This area is special in that it is close to RAF Machrihanish, rumoured for many a long year to house certain secret US Operations which would also have made a perfect abort strip and the whole north of scotland is rife with triangle and fast moving object stories, and lets not forget the Chris Gibson sighting in '89

Not only that but there is a history of mystery booms over the North Sea and into Denmark and, oddly the booms stopped for a long time after this incident.

Its a pet theory of mine

reply to post by neformore


Thanks for that Neformore...
I do a lot of camping up that way...i once saw the brightest satellite ever flying west to east between Sky and the island of Eigg...maybe something to do with the near zero light pollution...but damn, was this thing bright and shifting across the evening sky...looked for it the next night at the same time...nothing...maybe i had my timing wrong...

I believe the TR-3 was an experimental subsonic stealthy reconnaissance aircraft of the secret Quartz program that was ultimately cancelled. There is very little info on it.

www.globalsecurity.org...

There is also the mysterious rumor of the SR-91 Aurora which may exist and seems more interesting. A large triangular shaped hypersonic craft possibly with regenerative air-turboramjet (RATR) engines or pulsed detonation wave engines capable of Mach 5 to 6 at very high altitude. There have been some eyewitness accounts.

www.globalsecurity.org...

There is certainly classified research going on in new exotic hypersonic propulsion systems.

www.globalsecurity.org...


By the way I know a little bit about physics and as far as I know there is no anti-gravity yet, maybe in the next 50 years.