DPRK deploys missiles

DPRK deploys missiles

www.china.org.cn

South Korean media says the DPRK has deployed more than 900 ballistic missiles at 3 separate sites across the country.

KBS news agency reports that the 3 zones are for the use of the launch of short, middle and long-range missiles.
DPRK leader Kim Jong-un is said to have paid a visit to the headquarters in charge of missile launches, which is seen as key to the DPRK's missile deployment.

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Could be standard deployment, with everything going on in the world now adays... or maybe they got a whisper from China to saddle-up?

North Korea is being watched under heavy sattelite surveillance, so basically any military movement is usually reported.

What do you think? 900 seems like a lot.

Ballistic nuclear missile subs carry 16 Ballistic missiles..enough to wipe NK from history.

A US cruise missile sub can carry 154 cruise missiles on a single sub. So 5 subs can engage all of the NK ballistic missiles, and yes the US military has more than enough missile subs to do so. From the middle of the ocean.

As far as I know there are 18 Ohio class(cruise missile) submarines in active duty right now, there are also 42 active Los Angeles class subs that can also attack land targets with cruise missiles. Hell will come from the depths if need be. I'm not typically one to swing my nuts around with anything American but NK, would not stand a chance. China, could quite possibly hold their own, but NK would turn into a pile of dirt in no time if a conflict were to break out.

I don't believe anyone should be going after another nation today, but NK mobilizing 900 Ballistic missiles is a pretty big flex. After their sneaky Satellite launch it makes one wonder. I have no problem with NK trying to explore space, I believe every nation should have the right to explore as well as launch satellites, I however did not like the cloak and dagger they used to get it up there. I hate to say it, but I'm actually a little nervous about their current movements if they prove to be true.

For north Korea 900 is a lot..! I can't really say if 900 is a lot for other countries? But...unfortunately you have a country with a hot head leader who wants to make his point a point, and he wants to be considered a " big boy" in the world . He wants to be feared by EVERYONE.... Now he has new " toys" and he wants to play with them. That's not a good combination!

reply to post by Hijinx


Wars are not about numbers and who has more. It's who's the smartest. It's about who strikes first and hardest and who can hold out the longest.
Do you think NK doesn't know US capabilities and are doing nothing to mitigate it? If you do, you live in La-La-Land.

Originally posted by TheCanuckian
reply to post by Hijinx

 

Wars are not about numbers and who has more. It's who's the smartest. It's about who strikes first and hardest and who can hold out the longest.
Do you think NK doesn't know US capabilities and are doing nothing to mitigate it? If you do, you live in La-La-Land.

Because the US doesn't do the same?
Shock and awe comes to mind.

I have no idea what this means.. I'm kind of just waiting for ww3 to start, but that's such a negative viewpoint.
I have no idea what North Korea's motives could be, except in concert with other powers.. Alone they have little influence. I'm hinting at China here.

Originally posted by Dustytoad

Because the US doesn't do the same?
Shock and awe comes to mind.

I thought Shock and Awe was pretty weak, if you're talking about Iraq 2003. US had ships off the coast, few cruise missiles made light of their buildings. US wasn't threatened.

I think in an actual conventional war war, well........ Few MIRVs I think would end all North Korean military installations pretty within 12 hours, without South Korean help.

After passing 21-Dec-2012 i assumed out of shear ignorance that man would evolve.

It looks like the elite are going to get their nuclear confrontation that they created North Korea for after all.

Peter Lemesurier, "The Armageddon Script", p. 223

"A hair-raising nuclear confrontation in Korea may, towards the end of the period, threaten man's very survival."

Just in time for the weekend too

Originally posted by CALGARIAN

Originally posted by Dustytoad

Because the US doesn't do the same?
Shock and awe comes to mind.

I thought Shock and Awe was pretty weak, if you're talking about Iraq 2003. US had ships off the coast, few cruise missiles made light of their buildings. US wasn't threatened.

I think in an actual conventional war war, well........ Few MIRVs I think would end all North Korean military installations pretty within 12 hours, without South Korean help.

I agree, NK has the ability to hit just about anyone, and all jokes aside - them

It is not the North Korean people who need erasing from history, they are the victims. It is the evil scumbags in power. What needs to be done is an assaination of those in power. A hit squad should go in and do the job. A suicide mission of course but well if it means saving the world from nuclear oblivion I would go in and do the job myself. I would also have one proviso though, that those responsible for causing the situation to develop in the first place should stand trial. It takes two to tango as they say and although North Korea are guilty, so are those in the major world powers ie Russia, China, USA etc. If they really wanted to they could bring the world peace within days but they are acting like bullies in the playground and wanting to be the ones to spoil things for everyone. Frankly enough is enough!

reply to post by TheCanuckian


North Korea tech is old, so old in fact, their long distance rocket that was recently launched was hand welded and used fuel that the US and Russia was using in the 60's.

They are so behind the curve it's not funny. Their proximity to South Korea and Japan are the only reasons why they're taken seriously...

reply to post by TheCanuckian


Okay, anyone who has seen me post on these boards, I'm usually the first and one of the few to stand up and say the US could NOT take (insert country here) easily. NK how ever, is not as modern a nation as they are played up. They surely have short range ballistic missiles, and have some nuclear weapons. HOW EVER, NK does not have the capability to launch a nuclear warhead long range, which puts the only US allies a threat to a nuclear launch being Japan, South Korea, or the Philippines. Now, I'm not putting such a launch above the North, but given the circumstances NK probably doesn't have many more SRBM's than the 900 they are putting out on display. Given, if they launched even half that number at a target all hell would break lose, they are not nuclear weapons. NK is not a very large nation, and if given the opportunity it would become the next Libya. Tensions have been extremely high in this region lately, and if North Korea gives the UN, Nato, or even just the US a reason to do something about it, it will be done and China may not be so quick to step in, if NK is the aggressor.

I have enormous concerns over China, I do not think the US should attempt any conflict with them at this time, I am aware China has alright ties with NK for historical reasons, but if China isn't going to help them, NK will suffer immensely if a conflict arises.

I believe very strongly in the statement, never underestimate your enemy, but NK flexes with it's SRBM's like they are Minute men ICBM's With MIRV Nuclear payloads..

There is such a thing as over confidence. I strongly believe if a conflict arose with NK, a great majority of their " Force" could be decimated by tactical missiles, and Air support. NK, does not possess anti missile, anti-ship, or anti-aircraft weapons on par with the US. Heck, I'm sure all those SRBM's could be knocked out by 3 EMP cruise missiles, and then NK would have to roll over and let the US rub their bellies.

The unfortunate thing here is, South Korea is going to be the one who suffers. I can almost guarantee with 70% certainty they are the target of those 900 SRBM's, the other 30% is for Japan.

Absolute maximum range of Korea's ballistic missiles, 4000 miles. Barely touching Alaska. I'm aware they launched a 3 stage liquid fueled rocket into space, and down the road it could become nuclear capable, but that took them 14 years. They have just reached the point they can start experimenting with Re-entry vehicles and guidance systems to make that a weapon.

Keep in mind, the US has had the Minute man, since the 60's. They've been able to send a rocket into space, circle the globe and strike any city around the world with a nuke since then. So what, 52 years the US has had, and honed in the ability to strike anywhere on the planet with pin point accuracy, almost undetectable.

www.fas.org...

Now, the US has these.



Once it's reached the upper atmosphere, Korea can't do a damn thing about it. Silent, Miles above their heads, and will strike with pinpoint accuracy. Detectable only by satellite. No one has had a chance to try to shoot one down, so I doubt NK could do it. Oh and did I mention they can deliver 12 re-entry vehicles in a single launch, and hit multiple cities. That's one of those moments you go, how many major cities could 12 2 megaton nuclear bombs decimate ? Hmmmmmmmmmm... Not that they will use nukes, or these. The New world choice seems to be Submarine based nuclear weapons, of which the US has several hundred all over the globe right now. Chances are the very seat you're sitting in is in strike range.

oh and these too, they seem to be a US staple.



Ahhh the Tomahawk. On Almost Every US navy vessel around the globe. They come with a variety of payloads mind you. I'm pretty sure if need be, the US could engage every target in NK with tomahawks alone. Chances are the world would get upset, but hey if need be. Oh and the AGM-158, AGM-129 ACM, AGM-86 ALCM



Gotta love the death the US can deliver from many thousand miles away. NK, can't do a damn thing about it either. Outside of the top Russia, UK, China, or the US I'm not sure anyone can do a damn thing about it.

The US Is currently working on a hypersonic missile that will travel at speeds of Mach 6. Yep, 6 times the speed of sound. Russia is working on a Mach 7 version. Still think NK could stand a chance? I don't doubt they could do some damage, but they will get royally effed if they do anything. The US loves an easy target, Korea has been the boogyman for a while now.

I just want to make it clear, NK has mobilized 900 ballistic missiles, not 900 nuclear weapons. I know there are members of ATS who have no idea what any of the things I posted above are. SRBM's are Short Range Ballistic Missiles. The Absolute Maximum range of any NK missile is 4000miles. That's far, but not far enough to put the US at any sort of risk. Of the 900, only a portion are even capable of that. As far as we know NK has some nuclear weapons, exact numbers are hard to come by, but it is most certainly not 900, and they are most certainly not capable of hitting western targets. They are sub-sonic, not the most accurate, but given the chance can pack quite a whallop.

reply to post by CALGARIAN

I wouldnt even dignify them by calling them the DPRK (Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea). I know it makes people feel that they are in "the know" to refer to them as the DPRK instead of North Korea but they are NOT a democratic republic. Far from it; they are a communist state where the locus of power at the top is transferred more like a monarchy. I will "DK" the "DPRK" designation from now on.

How legit is china.org?

I'm not able to find any other source to support this.

Neither on S.Korea or other Chinese news outlets. . .

Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by CALGARIAN

 

I wouldnt even dignify them by calling them the DPRK (Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea). I know it makes people feel that they are in "the know" to refer to them as the DPRK instead of North Korea but they are NOT a democratic republic. Far from it; they are a communist state where the locus of power at the top is transferred more like a monarchy. I will "DK" the "DPRK" designation from now on.

In Breaking News Forum you have to use the same title as the source, so I did.

From the article, these are dibursed to three main launch sites?
That is in itself a weakness ...perhaps even a fatal one...
Remember the scud hunting we did in te desert?
No too successful really................
Three large lauch facilities well now thats a different target.
If NK plans to start the Korean war all over again, theyd better think twice....
I do know that nuclear subs have been stationed below the waters of NK regularly.....
There will be swift and final retaliation for any serious incursion into SK....there wont be another frozen Chosin.

reply to post by Chadwickus


Not quite that old, NK missile tech is the same tech as used in Scuds. The fuel is kerosene based. It works, but not reliably. They pose, at the moment, a very limited direct threat to the US. They do, however, pose a very serious threat to world stability. And they *may* be growing tired of their Chinese overlords; one never knows.

Originally posted by JWash
How legit is china.org?

I'm not able to find any other source to support this.

Must be true, other even more elusive sources are reporting that Sarah Palin can actually see the North Korean missiles from Alaska.