Netanyahu: Jerusalem is ours, I don't care what the UN says

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The whole thing will only end when either Israel is destroyed or Israel nukes half the middle-east.

With the US supporting it too

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by DarknStormy

 

Because they advanced. Yes, did you know this? You can change. WoAh!

They advanced? To what? Women and children killers? They are no better than the Muslims you accuse of the same things.

Because this is the global era, and people one place in the world will not allow people in another place in the world to carry on in darkness. The age of isolation, has ended. If you're doing something that pisses off a few hundred million people and in every way goes against freedom, those people are going to somehow cause or make happen an ending to the other side. Be it politically, economically, or in the rare case, militarily.

No, Its called stay the F out of other countries affairs because when it comes down to it, it isn't any of yours or yours countries business. I couldn't give a toss whether we are in this perfect global era as you call it, it ain't perfect and it certainly will come to a halt down the track. You only push so far before people and countries start poking back. If you think you political escapades are going to solve the worlds problems, I have news for you bro...

Just as the failing Islamic governments were born from an era of national socialism and imperialism, the current Arab Spring is born from the movement to openness and freedom, and they will succeed. Yes, you can call it a form of cultural imperialism. But I guess it sucks to be on the wrong side.

Hey, do you realise how far in debt the USA is in? I call that a silent failure... You saction the crap out of those Islamic governments, even Nth Korea and look how they are fairing.. Compared to the USA and Europe, they are doing great. How about Russia? Those commies don't owe anyone a cent really.. Democracy is destined to fail regardless of rights, freedoms or anything else.

That's happening in Iran, so yea, it will be in the East, not the West.

It doesn't matter, its none of your business. Anyway, why is it your government are so worried about the world yet 50 Millions americans are either homeless, starving or on the poverty line? Your government would be the last f/heads I'd want saving me.. They cant even look after there own people properly.

What about pre-Iranian revolution? The western puppet starved the Iranian people. Now you know why they hate you and that parasite nation threatening to bomb them.

The authority of the United Nations becomes very weak when you find out that most of the nations involved in the Non-Aligned Movement with 120 members with some heavily influenced small states, Organisation of Islamic Cooperation and Arab League are constantly pushing for condemnation of Israel. When you see the headline "UN [x] Israel", follow the documents and its most likely "NAM [x] Israel".

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Dude Islamist's wanted condemnation of Israel since 1948.
These people are nothing but stupid radicals who want Sharia and Jihad. They cannot do sh** to Israel even in their dream. Specially when the US is with Israel.
And even if the US stops supporting Israel ,it has enough nuke to turn middle east into a nuclear warzone.

reply to post by DarknStormy

They advanced? To what? Women and children killers? They are no better than the Muslims you accuse of the same things.

War is the most primitive thing anyone can do. Thus it is not what you do in war that matters. It is what you do in peace.

No, Its called stay the F out of other countries affairs because when it comes down to it, it isn't any of yours or yours countries business. I couldn't give a toss whether we are in this perfect global era as you call it, it ain't perfect and it certainly will come to a halt down the track. You only push so far before people and countries start poking back. If you think you political escapades are going to solve the worlds problems, I have news for you bro...

Too bad. I'm not a supporter of what you say. I support a more global world. There's a whole universe out there if you want to be alone.

Hey, do you realise how far in debt the USA is in? I call that a silent failure... You saction the crap out of those Islamic governments, even Nth Korea and look how they are fairing.. Compared to the USA and Europe, they are doing great. How about Russia? Those commies don't owe anyone a cent really.. Democracy is destined to fail regardless of rights, freedoms or anything else.

See you're assuming I care what happens to the US. I don't. And where the US fails and falls, China, Russia, Germany, Australia, Canada, Brazil, India, and many nations continue where they ended. All these nations are already creating relationships, global trade, and movements across the world. Hell they're even placing military spheres of influence beyond their own borders.

Sorry, but you can't stop a world power from forming. There will always be a super power, and in this case, there will be several. You can't be alone.

It doesn't matter, its none of your business. Anyway, why is it your government are so worried about the world yet 50 Millions americans are either homeless, starving or on the poverty line? Your government would be the last f/heads I'd want saving me.. They cant even look after there own people properly.

Because poverty always will exist, and fyi, "none of my business" doesn't exist. We're both human, and I care to know how you are treating my brothers and sisters. So it is my business. By proxy of being human, I want to know, and indeed, I want the world to regulate how you and your government are treating women and gays. And yea, I will support global action against you if you are abusing anyone. And that can come from the US, Brazil, India, Germany, I don't really care. I want you to cease and desist. If you do not like this, leave the planet.

Originally posted by svmpua
reply to post by 010203

 

Dude Islamist's wanted condemnation of Israel since 1948.

These people are nothing but stupid radicals who want Sharia and Jihad. They cannot do sh** to Israel even in their dream. Specially when the US is with Israel.
And even if the US stops supporting Israel ,it has enough nuke to turn middle east into a nuclear warzone.

I don't know whats so funny about that..

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by DarknStormy

 

Because poverty always will exist, and fyi, "none of my business" doesn't exist. We're both human, and I care to know how you are treating my brothers and sisters. So it is my business. By proxy of being human, I want to know, and indeed, I want the world to regulate how you and your government are treating women and gays. And yea, I will support global action against you if you are abusing anyone. And that can come from the US, Brazil, India, Germany, I don't really care. I want you to cease and desist. If you do not like this, leave the planet.

This isn't about protecting the rights of Iranians moron.. If it was, we would be in every Islamic country in the Middle East including Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and who ever else pulls the same crap. Why don't you speak out about those countries? Only an idiot would believe this is a human rights problem in Iran, same as Syria, same as Libya. I think people like you need to leave the planet and then the universe. The human rights issue didn't worry the Western backed Shah from 1953 until the Iranian revolution... Do you even know what happened in between those years? Take the human rights issue and stick it...

BTW, I am from a Western country. What makes you think I am from Iran r even the Middle East?

reply to post by DarknStormy


So rather than face the issues, you play a blame game from two generations ago.

You fail to realize that the actions of a government are limited to the administrations and generations that do them. I no more blame the US for those things, than I blame the Turks for the extermination of Armenians, or the Germans for exterminating Jews.

If you have to go back more than a generation to source your hatred, you're behaving in an intellectually irresponsible and indeed, insulting, demeanor. This is further added by your need to insult me and call me a moron.

Guess what. We are in those countries. You assume military as the only presence. There are far more ways to be present and changing a country than I care to count. And guess what. I never said you were in Iran. I simply said your government, whatever it may be.


So sorry to say, but you've revealed both your ignorance and bias in this conversation. Enjoy.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by DarknStormy

 

So rather than face the issues, you play a blame game from two generations ago.

You fail to realize that the actions of a government are limited to the administrations and generations that do them. I no more blame the US for those things, than I blame the Turks for the extermination of Armenians, or the Germans for exterminating Jews.

This isn't about genocide. This is about people sticking their beaks in where they shouldn't. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks, Iran are a sovereign nation with laws, maybe even differentlaws to the western world. Deal with it. No-one gives a toss about human rights in Iran, what makes you think that is the number one issue on the table?

If you have to go back more than a generation to source your hatred, you're behaving in an intellectually irresponsible and indeed, insulting, demeanor. This is further added by your need to insult me and call me a moron.

Your arrogance is what got you called a moron. You think the world deserves to interfere in a sovereign nations internal issues.. Great, lets go tell the Saudis the same thing, the Bahrainians enough is enough. Oh wait, we sign their cheques don't we? The human rights argument is pathetic. Many can get away with it yet because Iran spit in your face and want nothing to do with the USA, they are demonised.. Lovely.

Guess what. We are in those countries. You assume military as the only presence. There are far more ways to be present and changing a country than I care to count. And guess what. I never said you were in Iran. I simply said your government, whatever it may be.

I know your military is in the most of those countries.. Just proves that human rights are not at the top of the US agenda.

So sorry to say, but you've revealed both your ignorance and bias in this conversation. Enjoy.

No, I just don't think its anyones business what happens in anothers country whether you think you are the global pigs or not.

I cannot wait for Israel to make a move and start the damn war.
Israel has suffered for long enough , now its time the Islamist's get back their due.

reply to post by DarknStormy

This isn't about genocide. This is about people sticking their beaks in where they shouldn't. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks, Iran are a sovereign nation with laws, maybe even differentlaws to the western world. Deal with it. No-one gives a toss about human rights in Iran, what makes you think that is the number one issue on the table?

I give a toss about it because I say so. Too bad. I won't respect your opinion here. If a place exists with problems, I see no reason to respect its sovereignty to change that. That goes even for the US. Please, come and punish congress, whoever you are. You'd do the country a favor.

Your arrogance is what got you called a moron. You think the world deserves to interfere in a sovereign nations internal issues.. Great, lets go tell the Saudis the same thing, the Bahrainians enough is enough. Oh wait, we sign their cheques don't we? The human rights argument is pathetic. Many can get away with it yet because Iran spit in your face and want nothing to do with the USA, they are demonised.. Lovely.

What you fail to realize is that I do not believe in the idea of sovereign nations anymore. Once again, many people are telling the Sauds and the Bahrainians to do the same. Just because there are no troops does not mean there are others.

All a nation is, is this. A collection of laws. If I disagree with those laws, I disagree with the sovereignty of that nation. As there is yet a nation I agree with all its laws, there is yet a nation I view as sovereign.

All nations have fallen. All nations have become corrupt. All nations have lost their sovereignty in my eyes. There are no nations. Just a bunch if ignorance fraks arguing over a line in the sand place by their former masters.

It's hilarious, it really is. You didn't even draw those lines, but you'll die to defend them. Half the time your former masters either killed someone to draw them, are f'd someone over to force them, yet you will still die for them. Why. Because you want a border? You didn't draw it. You're parents likely weren't even born when they were drawn.

It is a line. That is all it is. And I do not see that line. Therefore I will not mind my own business, nor respect those lines.

I know your military is in the most of those countries.. Just proves that human rights are not at the top of the US agenda.

You're trying to make this an American thing again. tss tss tss. It's a worldly thing. I long now have cared very little for the United States. It is but one nation. One nation well on its way to become a feudal collective.

Once again, military presence is not the only kind of presence.

No, I just don't think its anyones business what happens in anothers country whether you think you are the global pigs or not.

The world is my business. Borders are made by pigs. Keep to your own pen if you want, but I'll stop the pigs in your pen if you don't find a way to stop them yourself.


If I am a pig for making your pigs stop, then I will eat with the pigs and be like them. It will be fun, because I will be a pig that does not stay to my pen. I will simply go where I wish.

Originally posted by svmpua
reply to post by zanbaq7

 

How do you know that 'Shaul mofaz ' is antichrist?

PS:- Trying to take Christians on Islam's side so that they can both attack Jews?
Nice try but we all can see your Islamic agenda

edit on 2-1-2013 by svmpua because: (no reason given)

ironic, isn't it, since they have a "messiah-type" figure that, by all descriptions, fits that of the Antichrist written of in the Bible? Their "Imam al-Mahdi" is remarkably familiar.