Who am I? **A Story of the Struggle for Spiritual Liberation**

reply to post by schuyler


I find it ironic nobody thought of another possibility; he was forced to say what he did. I don't see any logical reason for what he said he did, nor would it make sense. He knew before hand how much time he had to pull off this 'prank', so why come back saying, "Hey, I can't keep this up."

Sounds fishy to me. But hey, at least I know which direction to start looking then, hmm?

Interesting, I'm still going to say that a lot of what he wrote made a lot of sense to me, and it's not like I haven't studied any of this stuff before by myself. So no one considered the possibility that he got spotted by those who didn't want him to come forward with this information and decided that staying alive was more important than sharing his experiences and knowledge? Just sayin'

EDIT: beat me to it Veritas

Originally posted by Deny777
So no one considered the possibility that he got spotted by those who didn't want him to come forward with this information and decided that staying alive was more important than sharing his experiences and knowledge? Just sayin'

EDIT: beat me to it Veritas

edit on 27/12/2012 by Deny777 because:

Glad to see that I'm not the only one that this occurred to.

Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by schuyler

 

I find it ironic nobody thought of another possibility; he was forced to say what he did. I don't see any logical reason for what he said he did, nor would it make sense. He knew before hand how much time he had to pull off this 'prank', so why come back saying, "Hey, I can't keep this up."

Sounds fishy to me. But hey, at least I know which direction to start looking then, hmm?

OH YEAH! He was FORCED! That's the ticket! As one of his bulldogs you are grasping at straws, still trying to pull yourself out of that sticky morass you stepped in! Thanks for the laugh.

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reply to post by forgetmenot


WHAT? you serious?! You gotta be kidding me but he sounded so sincere, so smart and awakened, he made so much sense, hell there was even a bit of science in it, and most of all, what was being said sounded so real so easy, so appropriate! It has to be a lie because it said what i wanted to hear so it had to be true!

Now i didnt expect he would make a thread about it and the way he wrote it makes me believe there could be a conspiracy behind this. Yes now that i think about it, he talked about something serious and profound, he might have been onto something and because of that, they shut him out. His last message sounds so unlike him! In normal times they wouldnt bother to make a new post saying it was all a lie and then getting banned just after they apologized? Thats doesnt make any sense. Everyone save his posts so they cant hide it from the public!

For some people, anything that goes against their carefully sculpted belief system must be systematically denied at all costs, otherwise they'd have to admit they don't know as much as they thought they did and maybe have to start over. Those people are only interested in feeding their own egos by debunking other people's ideas or imposing their point of view onto others for the sake of feeling validated and empowered. These are exactly the same kind of people who ridiculed others when they said the Earth was round, and as the ones who burned others at the stake for believing the Earth wasn't the center of the Universe. My point is, any theory, no matter how ridiculous or crazy it may seem, deserves to be considered if only because of our limited perception of what we call "reality". And most importantly, everyone has the right to believe in whatever they want to believe and be respected for that. So I apologize if I don't dignify the know-it-alls from ATS with replies, but as the saying goes, "how can I pour anything in your cup if it's already full?".

reply to post by VeritasAequitas


I have to agree with you Veritas.

The manner of his confession is strange, and it can lead one to believe that he is being forced into a false confession. But I think he is smart enough to play that card in order to lend credence to his assertion that he is being watched, and that finally, 'TPTB' made him retract his posts.

If you ask me, it's a brilliant move on his part. His confession made the 'skeptics' now believe him, and the 'believers' now doubt him. The irony of that is beautiful in my opinion. I applaud it. And now he is laughing at us as a puppet-master would.

Nonetheless, I still know his posts are a joke, a fine one at that, because it is not logical to make such dire claims on a message board where conspiracy theorists are always trying to connect dots by inventing the connections. It's the perfect breeding ground for generating a prank such as this.

Really, I'm elated in this man's irony. Bravo if you're reading this.

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Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
(...) Nonetheless, I still know his posts are a joke, a fine one at that, because it is not logical to make such dire claims on a message board where conspiracy theorists are always trying to connect dots by inventing the connections. It's the perfect breeding ground for generating a prank such as this. (...)

There are a few individuals on ATS who are very knowledgeable on spiritual matters, including the physics of how realms currently labeled as "spiritual" connect to our everyday "reality". The posts of the OP were not intended for a majority of the population, and not even the majority of ATS members. Individuals like the ones I've mentioned are extremely difficult to come by, and ATS has an above average number of them. So IMHO this is as good a place as any, if not better, for such a message.

Originally posted by Deny777
...but as the saying goes, "how can I pour anything in your cup if it's already full?"

Evidence or conjecture may be presented, but it must be weighed discriminately nonetheless. Especially when the claims presented are construed as "privileged".

reply to post by Brown Bear


I'll speak to two of your responses here. You asked what I know about enlightenment, and suggested women aren't found doing serious spiritual work.

Many very highly enlightened women can be found in monasteries doing deep and thoughtful spiritual work. As one example, Pema Chodron is a respected Tibetan Buddhist nun, philosopher, author, speaker, and a venerable Bodhisattva. In my own personal experience, when I began studying Tibetan Buddhism I was introduced to my Lama and initial Buddhist philosophies by a female nun living at the local monastery.

One thing I've learned about enlightenment as I continue to walk my journey is that there are no singular paths. There are many ways through which any human being can gain further enlightenment. Enlightenment being knowledge, and intimate connection with knowledge. Respecting that anyone, male or female, can reach heightened enlightenment throughout their journey is a given.

You speak of yourself as an enlightened being, yet your responses often seem narrow-minded and in some cases closed-minded. This isn't an attack, rather an observation. Another thing I've learned about the journey toward enlightenment is that it does not end while we are here. There are great teachers and learners who have reincarnated many times on this earth to work toward human enlightenment. The journey is ever-continuing, ever-unfolding, and if one is to reach toward enlightenment they must do so with an open mind, open heart, and open arms.

For what it's worth, I was just browsing the 'New Topics' feed, and one came up saying something like "My account was hacked". By the time I had clicked it though, it had been 404'd... Strange?

Bulldogs and trolls and parrots and ghosts. It is I good thing I have myself to admire in the mirror.

I'll be the first to admit I made a mistake with this one, but it isn't entirely worthless. It's not like all of it is made up, just some of it. All threads considered, it was still inspiring. There's truth hidden in them there hills - time to do some digging!

Unless you think it isn't worth your time.

reply to post by AfterInfinity
A star for your integrity AfterInfinity!
Good journey to you in your quest!

It does follow that if you touch a nerve, on any given level, there's always a response, it's quite important if only to yourself, how you handle it.
Some people don't know what their looking at either, and I don't think this is strange at all.

I don't even know what I'm looking at yet, but I know it's important to continue to learn and assist, and in this day and age (how ever that is defined) to take only one as gospel would be silly.

You know, on another thread the other day someone said something about it still being the age of Piscies for a few hundreds years yet. But that's the funny thing, the fish, why wouldn't they be taking better care of the oceans then? Since we're going to have to rely on them for a while longer yet?
Why deliberately contaminate such a thing?
See? this sort of stuff doesn't make sense to me

A couple of the things the op said, do connect.

It's with the single angle that resonates at the time, then you find you have gathered many angles that resonate. Like pieces of pie in Trivial Persuit, and every little bit counts, because it is the little things that count.
You can't not care about detail.
It's whether or not you have interpreted it correctly.

The magnification and or supression (a tweak here or there) in the human psych (external displays may be; disease, depression, violence, apathy body shape etc) has been interacted with Externally and Internally, for goodness knows how long by many different influences.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


Atta boy. I was hoping you'd be the first. Not just a hat rack after all.

reply to post by LesMisanthrope


Don't forget to look for the diamonds in the rough. As I said, these threads are not completely worthless. All three of them have plenty to offer if you know what to look for.

reply to post by SilentKoala

For what it's worth, I was just browsing the 'New Topics' feed, and one came up saying something like "My account was hacked". By the time I had clicked it though, it had been 404'd... Strange?

This was kind of along the lines that I was thinking, but who knows? Maybe he was trolling, or maybe he wasn't. Who will ever really know now?