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Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by daaskapital
Yes it is! Your ability to ignore the facts is astounding.
You are the one ignoring the facts, the bombings were not a war crime. Funny how a armchair apologist 67 years after the bombings want to just attack the USA!
Originally posted by woogleuk
but how is killing thousands of innocent civilians not a crime?
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by woogleuk
but how is killing thousands of innocent civilians not a crime?
"innocent civilians"? They were heavily involved in the japanese war effort.
Originally posted by daaskapital
You are delusional!
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by daaskapital
You are delusional!
You are the delusional one here, claiming the bombings were war crimes....
Originally posted by woogleuk
So why the second bomb, if surrender was an option?
Originally posted by daaskapital
Not claiming...just proving
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Hiroshima was shocking mainly because of the unorthodox method used... the amount of people killed paled in comparison to some of the atrocities committed by Japanese troops in the war.
www.hawaii.edu...
From the invasion of China in 1937 to the end of World War II, the Japanese military regime murdered near 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most probably almost 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. This democide was due to a morally bankrupt political and military strategy, military expediency and custom, and national culture (such as the view that those enemy soldiers who surrender while still able to resist were criminals)
I think the US had no choice, also, it deserved to give Japan a punch in the mouth after Pearl Harbor.
Dropping 2 might have been a little much, but Hiroshima needed to go down in history!
plus, Japan has recovered, its cities have been rebuilt, generations have past on and Hiroshima and Nagasaki continue as bustling cities...
'IT' was big, but it wasn't forever big!
MPORTANT NOTE: Among all the democide estimates appearing on this website, some have been revised upward. I have changed that for Mao's famine, 1958-1962, from zero to 38,000,000. And thus I have had to change the overall democide for the PRC (1928-1987) from 38,702,000 to 76,702,000. Details here. I have changed my estimate for colonial democide from 870,000 to an additional 50,000,000. Details here. Thus, the new world total: old total 1900-1999 = 174,000,000. New World total = 174,000,000 + 38,000,000 (new for China) + 50,000,000 (new for Colonies) = 262,000,000. Just to give perspective on this incredible murder by government, if all these bodies were laid head to toe, with the average height being 5', then they would circle the earth ten times. Also, this democide murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century. Finally, given popular estimates of the dead in a major nuclear war, this total democide is as though such a war did occur, but with its dead spread over a century.
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by daaskapital
Not claiming...just proving
All you have proved is that even 67 years after the bombings Japanese apologists are still attacking the USA over the bombings!
Originally posted by woogleuk
reply to post by hellobruce
Not attacking the USA in general, but how is killing thousands of innocent civilians not a crime? Collateral damage only goes so far.
Originally posted by woogleuk
reply to post by weston19
So why the second bomb, if surrender was an option? Because the USA did not agree to the terms, seems like a harsh punishment.