My First Post ( The Mayans Were Right)

Originally posted by Nola213
They should make a new dance called the "Mayan prophecy Backpeddle". It would be a mix between the Classic Moonwalk, with some Ancient Mayan hand movements.

Where were all these posts about the date Dec 21st 2012 holding ZERO significance at all for the last 5 years. Today WAS the BIG Day, and Nothing happened. That's the bottom line.

These types of slow change posts only seemed to start appearing a couple months ago as the "Doomsday Believers" realized how foolish they we're gonna look on December 22nd.

Pavmas writes:

"American enslaved African of course they did they were not enslaved by the British & French". WHAT????

WAKE UP The World is ALWAYS Changing, ALWAYS Elvolving. You say you noticed this change start around 1998, or 89 (hurt my eyes to read your post)? Well what of the Start of Cold War, and Man Landing on the Moon in the 60's? We're these not MONUMENTAL CHANGES?

What of the Great Depression, the Holocaust, WWI, Vietnam. The building of the Great Pyramids. The World is always changing, constant EBB and FlOW. Positive=Negative,Karma. Why do the Mayan people deserve credit for this latest change, when nothing AT ALL happened on the key Date, heck I didn't even stub my toe. Because they made an accurate calendar that ended on a date.

Well, I have a Calendar created by Way more scientifically advanced Humans and it ends on Dec 31st 2012. But it's ok, because there's already tiny versions of the 2013 calendar on the last page, and full sized 2013 Calendars on sale in stores. Whew, Praise Jesus!

He my Response to the title of this Thread.

The 12-21-2012 doomsday fanatics were wrong and the Mayans never predicted Anything

"American enslaved African of course they did they were not enslaved by the British & French". WHAT???? why did you not paste the whole sentence and only not just part, if you quote me quote the lot not parts that allow you to go WHAT??? because you never read it all did you.

Yes we know the world changes so does the weather, so we have summer , autumn . winter and spring and then summer autumn winter and what is its not spring this time what if it something we have not saw before.

Thats the change thats coming Im talking about and you will see what i mean six months from now and you can post then, thats if you have not swapped your laptop for food that is.

reply to post by pavmas


I heard this in 2000, then in 2002, 2004, 2005 and every year since. Are you new to Ats?
You guys keep making this stuff up and shifting years.. making predictions that never come true. remember the fema camps, mass starvation and police state?

Yea.. BS, all of it.

Now it's "2013", when that comes to pass you will say "2014" and so on.

I really shouldn't rag on you though, you need this.. NEED it, it's how you survive month after month, trying to scare people with dire predictions. There was a guy on ATS I basically laughed at with all his scientific predictions of mass earthquakes and volcanoes in 2008.. his thread was HUGE, cats and dogs and HORSES! were scattering, boilers needed to be tied down, the entire gumball.

I took a lot of heat for that and.... what happened? Average disasters on an average year.
Where did he go? He turned in to you, or someone just like you. Moved on to a new subject.

There were also "look at all the FEMA camps. no one has food!" Nada

Then "Romney is going to steal the election" Nada

Mayans predicted the end of the world - NADA

Some rouge planet to smack the Earth - NADA

see a pattern?




last month this website was awash with all the "we're gonna die" and right on cue the day after now we have "mark my words it's coming" to me, that is such a sad existence. The only one you are convincing is your fellow hats. You can get mad and stomp your feet all you want, it's cool to talk about things.. it's not cool with me to demand that it going to happen and then when it doesn't shift gears to something else.

Like psychics that steal your money, your doing the same thing for absolution, it's selfish and dangerous.

Op I loved your intro, thank you for putting your heartfelt opinion on what we call "Life". It is a sick place to be, not that its te planet or people; but those controlling the people. I dont care if "rich help rich" and poor fight eachother as some ignorant bastard said in the first page or two.. EVERYONE should have a fair chance.

Living poor leaves one with nothing but stress, hopelessness, struggle and deception by those who 'provide' them with everything in society (Gov'). Ive had my struggles.. still do. Things are not easy, there are hand fulls of people who have their money and life seems all good.. how did they get that money? Useless jobs in society, ripping other people off.

This society was constructed,built, hence "MASON", a builder or constructor. Recruit masons on Ats.. shut up, we are tired with your silly defense mentality and excuses. There are cults and secret soceities who run the entire show, many people in power are masons, astronauts are masons.. many people in places are masons, and there is good reason for that.. but I wont get to into THAT "conspiracy" (its nota conspiracy if its obviously true).

The point is, there are people who constructed this life sucking, deceiving, willless machine called society. Andt makes life so miserable and un desireable to LIVE it. If you dont follow the "rules" or laws, your getting beat, everything in your life taken from you, and locked up in a tiny cell... these are old patterns of humans that have NEVER been corrected,because the same people have control.

2013 should be the wake up all to humanity, I feel that those in power are loosing grip. Yes they have brainwashed humans (cops, homeland security, military..) but that is ALL they have protecting their sorry asses from being exposed. Once these robots wake up to the"man", I feel humanity will have the momentum to turn this shiittt life around and create a planet of equality.

There is NO reason why therere beautiful-innocent children starving and dying of disease. . meanwhile some guy on some huge yacht has an expensive glass of cognac in his hand looking out on the ocean. Money is a means to bring unbalance and chaos to the minds of each and every human being playing that game. There is no honest benefit of money, those who created it had INTENTIONS, which were not kind.
Just look where money has got us today?

This planet, soceity and race is not as amazing and inteligent as many ignorant people want to beleive. Its a sick world out there. Just because you are not witnessing with your OWN eyes the chaos, death, genecides, diseases etc.. doesnt mean it does not exist. If each an everyone of us could imagine and feel what it would be like to live this version of reality, we would be QUICK to tell our government and military off.

But we remain slaves another day. Because 7 billion people is not enough to change things I gues... So we remain hopeful for raptures, gods, apocalypses to happen.. things that those in control MADE UP. Yes your religion is a LIE. Its based on control, just like money, war. Thats why you have so many blind followers.

There are so many mental traps (ways to trick and deceive the mind) in society and people cannot wake up to this. People are automatic humans, literal robots! Zombies! ... but we dismiss this because mankind is so great, and our countries are amazzing..

Im with you OP, sorrry for the extension here, I have deep feelings about this race, about others who live a Hell, about the state of this planet - its animals, its plants and flora - it hurts my heart to wake up to this planet and be reminded of the control and chaos that goes about on this beautiful rock..

Thank you again OP, take care

You seem to be saying (in a basic nutshell) because people in History had it bad we should stop complaining as they had it worse?reply to post by kaptabs



I see the ATS disease has gotten to you, if you had read my post it was about comparing history to TODAY and calling it worse, it was not about hardships that still exist today. I did not say anything about you not being able to complain about your life or some unknown person in India you currently aren't helping except with lip service.

Complaining is the human condition.. I am merely pointing out the "it's worse" crap.

we ARE whiny little snots, all of us, we have it made and all we do is bitch bitch bitch and do nothing.

You know what is worde, the guys replying to the OP about MONEY, that someone else has it and they don;t.. that is REALLY sad, because anyone who even mentions money is out of the conversation, period, because all it is at that point is someone whining that someone else has MORE.

No one is promised a mansion on this earth, it is not your "right" to sip cognac by an ocean view. Other people BEFORE you sacrificed to get what they have, some more than others and some not deserving granted but that alone does not give you some right to riches. And in case you get the wrong idea, which I am sure you will, by sacrifice I do not mean some old white rich guy built a company on the backs of the poor, I am talking about people who discovered this land, tilled it, bled for it, died for it, fought for every scrap they ever received.

what have you done for these rights you think belong to you?

You point fingers and whine, while doing nothing as if it's someone else's fault, always someone else's. You could get off your butt and go to Africa, you could have went to medical school (I'll wait while you tell me you have 11 degrees or something) but what do you do instead, spend your time on ATS proclaiming famine for the masses.

I'll see you at the end of 2013 and you know what will happen? you won't apologize for your postulations, you won't back down, you'll just say "2014, mark my words" like all the rest

But just because you cannot seem to be able to read my entire post or discern it, here it is again summized..

I didn't say the world was perfect, I said it is BETTER There are 7 billion people on this planet and the vast majority live meaningful fulfilling lives, kids getting killed by drones.. HORRIBLE, absolutely HORRIBLE, but wander back just a few decades and tell me how many Jewish kids died in an oven?

The world is a better place, not perfect, better.

Your cancer postulation, surely this is some NWO twisted theory based on acendotal evidence (my entire family has cancer diabeties and aids! coincidence! I think NOT! even my dog is lathargic!!!) , that all the little people are getting weeded out and yet, 7 BILLION on the planet, growing every day, more countries coming out of the third world every day. Were living longer than at any point in human history and yep, were making mistakes along the way

You want to focus on the negative and paint the planet.. ok, your right to do so, but please don;t sit there and tell me the world is worse now than at any time in history because it's simply not the case.


But that's ok, rant... get it off your chest, ignore content to further your own opinions on something not actually being discussed.



EDIT: l I think I mixed up two guys in this post, but I am too tired to re-edit so it's for the both of you, the famine guy and the misreader.

Originally posted by gormly2
reply to post by pavmas

 

I heard this in 2000, then in 2002, 2004, 2005 and every year since. Are you new to Ats?
You guys keep making this stuff up and shifting years.. making predictions that never come true. remember the fema camps, mass starvation and police state?

Yea.. BS, all of it.

Now it's "2013", when that comes to pass you will say "2014" and so on.

I really shouldn't rag on you though, you need this.. NEED it, it's how you survive month after month, trying to scare people with dire predictions. There was a guy on ATS I basically laughed at with all his scientific predictions of mass earthquakes and volcanoes in 2008.. his thread was HUGE, cats and dogs and HORSES! were scattering, boilers needed to be tied down, the entire gumball.

I took a lot of heat for that and.... what happened? Average disasters on an average year.
Where did he go? He turned in to you, or someone just like you. Moved on to a new subject.

There were also "look at all the FEMA camps. no one has food!" Nada

Then "Romney is going to steal the election" Nada

Mayans predicted the end of the world - NADA

Some rouge planet to smack the Earth - NADA

see a pattern?




last month this website was awash with all the "we're gonna die" and right on cue the day after now we have "mark my words it's coming" to me, that is such a sad existence. The only one you are convincing is your fellow hats. You can get mad and stomp your feet all you want, it's cool to talk about things.. it's not cool with me to demand that it going to happen and then when it doesn't shift gears to something else.

Like psychics that steal your money, your doing the same thing for absolution, it's selfish and dangerous.

edit on 21-12-2012 by gormly2 because: (no reason given)

I know we have heard dom and doom, Im glad 21.12 is past. same with elenin and y2k.

What I am pointing out is not pie in the sky stuff.

Facts : bankers using bailout cash have been buying futures in food they now own the lot, they they have called in shipping loans even loans from shipping companies that make a profit.

Take out the droughts and the floods' just forget they happened.

Now they control the food and shut down most of the shipping' they have created a food shortage by doing this alone thats why prices are rising so dramatic just now.

Now with the droughts and floods we had last year food is going to go through the roof the banker get 10 fold return on their cash to get them back to a position they were in before the crash.

The gambled with our economy and look at the problem and trail of debt they left behind that will take years perhaps generations for us to clear.

We have allowed these idiots to control the flow of food, they care nothing about what is right and wrong. by the summer millions will be starving.

This is not conspiracy its about logistics; you know the problem in africa has a lot to do with distribution' well the banker have just destroyed the distribution network (shipping) if you live in a country that is self sufficent you will remain untouched I hope.
These are just facts and within six months you will see what I was trying to explain here/

reply to post by pavmas


excellent I will mark my calendar and if you are right I will apologize and convert and beg forgiveness (seriously I will).

what will you do in June say around the 22nd if it doesn't come to pass?

I don't expect an answer here, it is completely rhetorical.
Keep in mind though if you commit, I WILL point you out in a new thread with links .


Just for the record, a quick search on basically your quote

Facts : bankers using bailout cash have been buying futures in food they now own the lot, they they have called in shipping loans even loans from shipping companies that make a profit.

shows that MANY posts have been made about this, in the same years I mentioned before, all the way back to 2000 ALL proclaiming that was the year. what makes yours any different?

Originally posted by pavmas
archaeology.about.com...



Someone says europe is united and that is freedom, are you having a laugh, these people are non elected and have created a closed shop that would embarrass any union.

These unelected people took a vote and no one without a degree can get a top job in this Euopean Union, it is an elitest organization, where you find freedom here baffles me.


This nip picking takes away from any message a person is trying to get across.

When you lose all your freedoms and are in a Fema camp and your son or daughter says "daddy did you not know this was happening" what are you going to say.

Yes I did read it honey' but you must understand It was not in paragraphs so i ignored it.

The European Union scares the sh!t out of me. TRULY. I try to find everything I can because I can see something like that happening in America.

Everyone looks to Europe and says, that's how they do it in Europe. I'm like go to Europe. You are absolutely right the slave was able to go North. In Europe everywhere is the same, freedom and choice has been stripped from 700 million people.

The things bolded above I did not know. The fact that your children cannot go outside alone scares me also. I just read 1984 by George Orwell for the first time last week and I look at England and wonder how they could have allowed something like this to happen given some fore-knowledge.

I pray we have more time in America. I want my daughter to grow old on a front porch, healthy, happy, and with no worries. God please continue to bless America.

One thing that is interesting in Orwell's 1984 is that as the main character, Winston, tries to explain to a girl that something is wrong with the way the system worked, she didn't care, she even fell asleep as he tried to reveal to her a greater conspiracy.

Most people do not care. You can tell by the people who vehemently defends the system as it exists, as if people should be grateful to live under oppression. Comparing them to house slaves was genius. Thank you for your entire post.

Originally posted by Zcustosmorum
reply to post by pavmas

 

Your post would have been so much better had you structured it better mate, don't get why you put the effort in to then not be bothered with paragraphs etc.

sorry mate i make mistakes
Im blind in my right eye due to an industrial accident and have tis problem with my other eye due to type1 diabetes, I tend to listen more than pay attention to what Im writing and make the odd mistake.

Originally posted by Zcustosmorum
reply to post by pavmas

 

Your post would have been so much better had you structured it better mate, don't get why you put the effort in to then not be bothered with paragraphs etc.

sorry mate i make mistakes
Im blind in my right eye due to an industrial accident and have tis problem with my other eye due to type1 diabetes, I tend to listen more than pay attention to what Im writing and make the odd mistake.

Originally posted by RothchildRancor
Yeah too bad the date on December 21st, 2012 is the wrong date, #ing geniuses!

oh no "millerite" syndrome !!!!

lol

Originally posted by Nola213
They should make a new dance called the "Mayan prophecy Backpeddle". It would be a mix between the Classic Moonwalk, with some Ancient Mayan hand movements.

Where were all these posts about the date Dec 21st 2012 holding ZERO significance at all for the last 5 years. Today WAS the BIG Day, and Nothing happened. That's the bottom line.

These types of slow change posts only seemed to start appearing a couple months ago as the "Doomsday Believers" realized how foolish they we're gonna look on December 22nd.

Pavmas writes:

"American enslaved African of course they did they were not enslaved by the British & French". WHAT????

WAKE UP The World is ALWAYS Changing, ALWAYS Elvolving. You say you noticed this change start around 1998, or 89 (hurt my eyes to read your post)? Well what of the Start of Cold War, and Man Landing on the Moon in the 60's? We're these not MONUMENTAL CHANGES?

What of the Great Depression, the Holocaust, WWI, Vietnam. The building of the Great Pyramids. The World is always changing, constant EBB and FlOW. Positive=Negative,Karma. Why do the Mayan people deserve credit for this latest change, when nothing AT ALL happened on the key Date, heck I didn't even stub my toe. Because they made an accurate calendar that ended on a date.

Well, I have a Calendar created by Way more scientifically advanced Humans and it ends on Dec 31st 2012. But it's ok, because there's already tiny versions of the 2013 calendar on the last page, and full sized 2013 Calendars on sale in stores. Whew, Praise Jesus!

He my Response to the title of this Thread.

The 12-21-2012 doomsday fanatics were wrong and the Mayans never predicted Anything

Terrific post! Gave you a star for that. Glad to see some common sense amidst all the ridiculous hysteria. There has been constant change, and there will continue to be constant change long after we're all dust. I feel it's unbelievable all the whining from people about how terrible everything is. Compared to hundreds of years ago, we have it pretty good.

OP had some good points. Are people getting angry because he's getting stars on his first post? lol

Originally posted by gormly2
You seem to be saying (in a basic nutshell) because people in History had it bad we should stop complaining as they had it worse?reply to post by kaptabs

 

I see the ATS disease has gotten to you, if you had read my post it was about comparing history to TODAY and calling it worse, it was not about hardships that still exist today. I did not say anything about you not being able to complain about your life or some unknown person in India you currently aren't helping except with lip service.

Complaining is the human condition.. I am merely pointing out the "it's worse" crap.

we ARE whiny little snots, all of us, we have it made and all we do is bitch bitch bitch and do nothing.

You know what is worde, the guys replying to the OP about MONEY, that someone else has it and they don;t.. that is REALLY sad, because anyone who even mentions money is out of the conversation, period, because all it is at that point is someone whining that someone else has MORE.

No one is promised a mansion on this earth, it is not your "right" to sip cognac by an ocean view. Other people BEFORE you sacrificed to get what they have, some more than others and some not deserving granted but that alone does not give you some right to riches. And in case you get the wrong idea, which I am sure you will, by sacrifice I do not mean some old white rich guy built a company on the backs of the poor, I am talking about people who discovered this land, tilled it, bled for it, died for it, fought for every scrap they ever received.

what have you done for these rights you think belong to you?

You point fingers and whine, while doing nothing as if it's someone else's fault, always someone else's. You could get off your butt and go to Africa, you could have went to medical school (I'll wait while you tell me you have 11 degrees or something) but what do you do instead, spend your time on ATS proclaiming famine for the masses.

I'll see you at the end of 2013 and you know what will happen? you won't apologize for your postulations, you won't back down, you'll just say "2014, mark my words" like all the rest

But just because you cannot seem to be able to read my entire post or discern it, here it is again summized..

I didn't say the world was perfect, I said it is BETTER There are 7 billion people on this planet and the vast majority live meaningful fulfilling lives, kids getting killed by drones.. HORRIBLE, absolutely HORRIBLE, but wander back just a few decades and tell me how many Jewish kids died in an oven?

The world is a better place, not perfect, better.

Your cancer postulation, surely this is some NWO twisted theory based on acendotal evidence (my entire family has cancer diabeties and aids! coincidence! I think NOT! even my dog is lathargic!!!) , that all the little people are getting weeded out and yet, 7 BILLION on the planet, growing every day, more countries coming out of the third world every day. Were living longer than at any point in human history and yep, were making mistakes along the way

You want to focus on the negative and paint the planet.. ok, your right to do so, but please don;t sit there and tell me the world is worse now than at any time in history because it's simply not the case.


But that's ok, rant... get it off your chest, ignore content to further your own opinions on something not actually being discussed.

edit on 21-12-2012 by gormly2 because: (no reason given)

EDIT: l I think I mixed up two guys in this post, but I am too tired to re-edit so it's for the both of you, the famine guy and the misreader.

edit on 21-12-2012 by gormly2 because: (no reason given)

What im saying is that things are worse now not bette, the world is a smaller place how many times have we heard that becasue of air travel, so someone in India USA whereever are my concern because of this fact.

We constantly hear of global companies, such as coca cola' we can supply coke all over the world but not food and medicine..

Lets forget about India lets talk USA, diabetics need insulin to live pure and simple USA forum full of 14 year old kids worrying that their dad of mum will die because they cant afford Insulin and they buy their insulin from Walmart, USA is named the richest country in the world yet you have this state of affairs.

Regarding the future 2013, I showed how there will be food shortages I told you the background and what can be the only outcome its in another post on this thread.
Dont take my word for it get someone else on here who works in distribution and ask them to anylize the information I posted,

Originally posted by ChiefD

Originally posted by Nola213
They should make a new dance called the "Mayan prophecy Backpeddle". It would be a mix between the Classic Moonwalk, with some Ancient Mayan hand movements.

Where were all these posts about the date Dec 21st 2012 holding ZERO significance at all for the last 5 years. Today WAS the BIG Day, and Nothing happened. That's the bottom line.

These types of slow change posts only seemed to start appearing a couple months ago as the "Doomsday Believers" realized how foolish they we're gonna look on December 22nd.

Pavmas writes:

"American enslaved African of course they did they were not enslaved by the British & French". WHAT????

WAKE UP The World is ALWAYS Changing, ALWAYS Elvolving. You say you noticed this change start around 1998, or 89 (hurt my eyes to read your post)? Well what of the Start of Cold War, and Man Landing on the Moon in the 60's? We're these not MONUMENTAL CHANGES?

What of the Great Depression, the Holocaust, WWI, Vietnam. The building of the Great Pyramids. The World is always changing, constant EBB and FlOW. Positive=Negative,Karma. Why do the Mayan people deserve credit for this latest change, when nothing AT ALL happened on the key Date, heck I didn't even stub my toe. Because they made an accurate calendar that ended on a date.

Well, I have a Calendar created by Way more scientifically advanced Humans and it ends on Dec 31st 2012. But it's ok, because there's already tiny versions of the 2013 calendar on the last page, and full sized 2013 Calendars on sale in stores. Whew, Praise Jesus!

He my Response to the title of this Thread.

The 12-21-2012 doomsday fanatics were wrong and the Mayans never predicted Anything

Terrific post! Gave you a star for that. Glad to see some common sense amidst all the ridiculous hysteria. There has been constant change, and there will continue to be constant change long after we're all dust. I feel it's unbelievable all the whining from people about how terrible everything is. Compared to hundreds of years ago, we have it pretty good.

Well maybe we are just more aware than you two.

Yes we have been here before and the world changes but their is a difference. The Romans The Vikings The British all rule the world and it was brutal.

But not until now has any standing army ever been able to enforce slavery such as the capabilty that we have today.
The British control led Irelands food and it lest of a million starving to death.
Now the worlds food is in control of the bankers.
If you have not got the common sense to be concerned then I envy you but Im not that lucky.

Originally posted by gormly2
Ok first, I have been a member here for a very loong time under a different username (gormly) and I can't remember my password. I have been tempted to retrieve it and log in and contribute but to be honest I get enough ridiculousness on reddit and this website just continues to amaze me with the lack of critical thought.

But this one, got me.

I can understand the conspiracy theories but this stuff.. is just too much. People clinging to things and distorting them to fit their now lost beliefs. We see this after every doomsday passes.
I am sure someone right now is busy trying to reinterpret the Mayan calendar to say they mean "Dec 21 2013"

The post the OP made and the subsequent replies all miss one key fact.

The world is a better place now than it ever has been.

Struggling with college costs?
a few hundred years ago almost everyone was illiterate.

Your job sitting in a chair all day or stocking shelves got you down, stuck in a dead end position with no end in site?
a few hundred years ago it was back breaking physical labor and you worked for 12-16 hours day just to survive, and there you are complaining on a website instead of bettering yourself to get what you want

That 99% you're always bitching about? they are doing fine with their iPads and Cappachinos.


You worried about "violence"
take a walk back anywhere in history.

You worried about "oppression"
take a walk back anywhere in history.

Think social security isn't enough to tied you over in your waning years?
that was invented less than a century ago

Think everyone hates each other over politics?
LOL you don't really pay attention to history

Pissed that you barely have enough cash to afford Ramon noodles?
Hmm, I wonder if people before you had trouble with food supply? I wonder if they had to till their own fields and protect every scrap of food with their lives? No?

Got sick and you can't afford to pay the doctor bill and you are now in debt?
I wonder how all those people who died from the simplest diseases back sat just a few dozen years ago would feel in your shoes? You know, treatments for disease, cancer breakthroughts, vaccines...

My point for those of you who live in the here and now and claim this to be the worst time in history...

you have no business complaining in this manner, you know jack squat about history. If you want to complain about you current conditions, please feel free to do so, but complaining that this is the worst time in history and this time is some kind of catalyst just shows that you are no student of history and have no business making such a comment.

You (no one specific here not picking on anyone in particular) have an iPhone, you have an internet connection that lets you write all your jumbled logic-less thoughts online for the world to see, you go home at night to a warm bed and food in your stomach.

You are just a whiny self absorbed human.

Please note, I mean no disrespect to any one particular person, I just get frustrated when people do not look very far into history before they claim something "worst evar!"

I think that the OP is saying that we are just as enslaved as ever before. Not that this is the worst time in history.

I remember reading about how all of our household devices were supposed to give us more time, but I don't have a lot of extra time in the day when I get home from work. There is still 24 hours in a day, but we have less real free time than they did.

Also, most of their work was done with and around their loved ones. We are estranged from the members of our own homes, because we never see them.

The argument is that we are not much better off. I think one thing most people can agree on is that things were better 50 years ago. I think that is where the OP is coming from. He lives in a world where kids cannot climb trees.


There is a good argument for whether or not we are actually progressing, despite the advances.

reply to post by 0010010

Thanks but I really dont think thats the problem.

Most people are scared to face the facts that are staring them in the face and find comfort in thinking the government would take care of all problem

I understand that, regarding the food shortage. If reports were accurate about the amount of food reserves that were held last year then we all have a problem with food this coming spring.

What worries me is that the elite wont need to give us flu shots or posion us as they will just sit back and watch us turn on each other.

Fat people will be abused and attacked, why should we feed the old as they will die soon the disabled.

I have seen this happen before i n the Uk 10 years ago.

they were rationing health care and cutting back o hip replacements and I saw news coverage that made me sick to the core

Old people were saying why should children get treated when we have paid all our lifes, i could not believ what I was hearing

A 70 year old wants a kid to die so he can get a new hip.

When the food runs short watch how selfish people really get, I for one am worried.

Originally posted by gormly2
reply to post by pavmas

 

excellent I will mark my calendar and if you are right I will apologize and convert and beg forgiveness (seriously I will).

what will you do in June say around the 22nd if it doesn't come to pass?

I don't expect an answer here, it is completely rhetorical.
Keep in mind though if you commit, I WILL point you out in a new thread with links

.


Just for the record, a quick search on basically your quote

I will thank god if this does not come to pass and there is no hunger and perhaps cry in relief because I have grand children, but the bankers will still make money they will rise prices. and by a lot.

Facts : bankers using bailout cash have been buying futures in food they now own the lot, they they have called in shipping loans even loans from shipping companies that make a profit.

shows that MANY posts have been made about this, in the same years I mentioned before, all the way back to 2000 ALL proclaiming that was the year. what makes yours any different?

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No difference, but they never got into food future till 2009 and never started calling in shipping loans till last year.

Even if we had am abundance of food around the world I dont see how they can distribute it unless they bring all the ships that are lying redundant back into service.

I read somewhere that Fema bought millions of ready meals to be used by 2014, now maybe there is a link and people thought it was niburu and or mayans in 2012 related.

But Inm not speculating Im sticking to the 2 facts Bankers own all food futures and have called in loans to shipping companies even ones making a profit forcing them out of business.

OK squiggy..... The jig is up. Nothing happened ! Were all still here ! It was all a bunch of bull#. Now there going to start to change the dates. Oh, I ment it was going to be in 2013. We were all told a bunch of lie's. And a lot of people made a lot of money, on the backs of our fear. Well...no more ! I am so done with this #. Wake the hell up people. Pick something new. Worry about Obama, he can make things happen. We won't have to wait to see it. Black hole, dwarf star, comet, pole shift, the second coming, burned up by the sun, which one were you thinking ? Elvis has left the building ! Nothing friggin happened, and nothing is going to happen. Except, you will die and you will pay your taxes, of that you can be sure. Stop worrying,,,start enjoying your life. Be thankful for what you have. Think you got it bad ? Just look around a little bit. There are lots of folks that have it way worse.