PROOF the Bushmaster WAS in the TRUNK of Lanza's car!!!

Originally posted by GermanShep
To me looks like a Hi-point 995.



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edit on 20-12-2012 by GermanShep because: (no reason given)

Charging handle is on the wrong side.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


That's a baby bullet..

Here's a better representation of a Rifle Round.

Left to right we have a 7.62, 5.56, then a AA (battery)





to be clear I'm 99% sure these rounds i posted are not in the video, but they would be seen if they were..

Originally posted by 00nunya00
Here's your big daddy .223 casings, look like they'd shine a whole lotta light off their spinning sides.

About the size of a shotgun shell.

ROFL. I am breaking my silence to quote this one. Brilliant!

I took the liberty to bold the good part.

reply to post by Dustytoad


Go back to my post and scroll the picture over.

There is a .223 in the picture.
It is basically a 22 with more powder behind it. .223s are fairly small rifle rounds.

I know well what a .223 is, go back to my post. I think the round ejected from the gun in the video looks larger than a .223.

reply to post by 00nunya00


lol.. sorry, you don't know what you are talking about.
A .223 is nowhere near the size of a shotgun round, and you are probably the only person ever to say "your big daddy .223 rounds" lol. They are one of the smallest rifle rounds.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


I was in the Army I know what .223s look like.
I wanted to show a bigger casing since the bullet ejected was never fired.
I maintain that the video shows a BIGGER round, than a .223

You may wish to understand I am on YOUR side here.. Look over my posts. In the interest of fairness and truth I only wanted to point out that you would see a .223, but that is not what we are seeing.. Think of it as a for future reference.. I take truth VERY seriously .

reply to post by Dustytoad


I did show a bigger round. The picture I posted had a 22lr and a .223 if you scroll over to see the entire picture.

ATI Fiberforce Dragunov stock.

It was a Bushmaster .223

any questions?

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Dustytoad

 

I did show a bigger round. The picture I posted had a 22lr and a .223 if you scroll over to see the entire picture.

I see it now.. Sorry.. Still you didn't seem to read my post since I was agreeing with you about the conclusion of the size of the round in the video. I already bet 3 weeks of posting on ATS privileges that it was not an AR... I already said the bullet was larger than a .223..

I don't just want to say things though.. I want to bring non gun people into how I view it..

reply to post by sputniksteve


And what's funny? My point was that when you're watching video filmed from at least 30 yards away, the light is going to have a very big impact on what a shell casing will look like in a momentary flip and cartwheel into the shadows. As my next picture shows, the .223 is as long as the shotgun shell, but no, not as bulky-----but it shines on the entire surface, and shotgun shells do not. They reflect back whatever color they are, and this one reflected the white of the camera bulb.

reply to post by Dustytoad


Yeah, no, sorry I see that you were agreeing. It was actually my bad, I was confusing your posts with "nunya" or whatever.

Yeah, that bullet looks too large, did they say if the mother owned a shotgun? Was the bushmaster in 308?

reply to post by 00nunya00


You know what, after watching it multiple multiple times, you are right.
The casing looks wrong, but you can see him remove the mag at the start of the video.

It is 100% the ar15.
My apologies.

reply to post by 00nunya00


Dude a .223 can in no way be compared to the size of a 12 gauge shell as similar in size or dimension. There is no way to talk your way around that, you are just flat out incorrect and have possibly seen neither in real life. Just looking at elongated photos of "The big boy .223" doesn't help you in realizing the size of these 2 objects.

reply to post by sputniksteve


I can't explain the size either, but it is undoubtedly an AR.
Watch where the magazine would be the instance the video starts. It catches light as he raises it out of the trunk and then he removes it with one hand.

Watch the officers hand, since it is so bright you can see his thumb get around the magazine and then he lays it in the trunk.

It truly is, unmistakably an AR (well I guess it could be a saiga).

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


Dude it is a Saiga, AR platforms have rear facing charging handles. We have been reminded that those are a possible after market addition, but that still doesn't explain the shot shell being ejected. We all know there is a magazine, we also realized that quite a long time ago, that's why I believe it is a Saiga.

Originally posted by GeisterFahrer
ATI Fiberforce Dragunov stock.

It was a Bushmaster .223

any questions?

I really need you to link this one for me, I can't find that configuration anywhere!

reply to post by sputniksteve


I don't know. I don't want to say anything conclusively. I actually believe it is an AR.
I think the light from the casing and the fact that it is a digital camera (making the light/fuzzy larger/pixelated) is what is making the casing seem larger.

It looks strange (I thought it looked more like a hipoint rifle more than anything else, of course a 9mm/45 would definitely not be seen), I give it that, but I believe it is an AR.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


All good, we can agree to disagree I think. It's late and I am heading to bed, night ya'll.

Originally posted by sputniksteve
reply to post by 00nunya00

 

Dude a .223 can in no way be compared to the size of a 12 gauge shell as similar in size or dimension. There is no way to talk your way around that, you are just flat out incorrect and have possibly seen neither in real life. Just looking at elongated photos of "The big boy .223" doesn't help you in realizing the size of these 2 objects.

Yeah, actually, I can. Because I provided photo evidence that the two are almost exactly the same length and while their obvious physical difference is the bulk and circumference of the casing------but what you see in the video is a white blob of light reflected off metal, NOT off of a red/green/blue plastic surface. In fact, if they WERE shotgun shells, we should have seen them glint on one side, and not on the rest, where it would look matte. We saw full end-to-end illumination/reflection on these ones.

reply to post by sputniksteve


I get what you are saying, I thought Saiga for a second too, just before you mentioned it. I just don't know though.
I also don't see a point in them lying about what was found?