Best 9/11 documentaries

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: sg1642

I've never seen anyone claim it will render an aircraft invisible to radar if you shut off its transponder. Where did you read that?

From conspiracy theorist over the years. Here is another reference;

Claims by authorities that, once a hijacked aircraft’s transponders have been turned off, the plane becomes virtually invisible to radar,

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Claims by authorities that, once a hijacked aircraft’s transponders have been turned off, the plane becomes virtually invisible to radar, is another sore point for Hordon.
“Bottom line, these aircraft were always radar monitored, we were always in communication with them, even if they were hijacked. The only way you can lose an aircraft these days is for the plane to flat out blow up.”

So claims that are by authorities are wrong not from 9/11 conspiracy theorists. He is one and he agreed completely with what you said. Don't twist and misquote things.

Since any genuine air attack would not likely announce itself as such, NORAD radar has to be able to detect anything. But there’s nothing stealthy about an enormous Boeing passenger liner, whether its transponder is operating properly or not.

“That aircraft is represented on their radar scope from the time it takes off to the time it lands. Even little puddle-jumpers out of our local airports. NORAD tracks all these aircraft. They have the world’s most sophisticated radar.”

From your own source Eagle.

a reply to: sg1642

Over the years, I have been hit with claims the transponders were tampered with in order to make the aircraft invisible, which was false.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: sg1642

Over the years, I have been hit with claims the transponders were tampered with in order to make the aircraft invisible, which was false.

That would only go to support the official explanation not the conspiracy theories I can't see why anyone would say that.

a reply to: sg1642

Since any genuine air attack would not likely announce itself as such, NORAD radar has to be able to detect anything....

Anything outside the borders of the United States. NORAD is not geared to track civilian aircraft within our borders.

... But there’s nothing stealthy about an enormous Boeing passenger liner, whether its transponder is operating properly or not.

And, that is correct and yet, there were still claims that is why the transponders were tampered with.

“That aircraft is represented on their radar scope from the time it takes off to the time it lands.

And, that is how the 9/11 aircraft were tracked from takeoff to their crash sites, which effectively debunks conspiracy claims that;

1. The 9/11 aircraft were switched

2. Flown under remote control

3. Were holograms

4. United 93 landed at Cleveland Airport

5. United 93 did not crash at Shanksville

6. United 93 was shot down.

7. American 77 overflew the Pentagon

8. American 77 flew north of the gas station

9. American 77 did not crash at the Pentagon

10 A missile struck the Pentagon

11. ACARS depicted the 9/11 aircraft airborne after they were reported to have crashed

The fact that radar tracked the 9/11 aircraft debunks conspiracy claims.

...shot down Even little puddle-jumpers out of our local airports. NORAD tracks all these aircraft. They have the world’s most sophisticated radar.”

It doesn't work within the borders of the United States. Case in point: a mechanic stole a Lear Jet and flew it 1600 miles to Denver, Colorado and another case involves the Lear Jet of golfer, Payne Stewart, where it took about 1 1/2 hours for an F-16 to intercept his aircraft and the F-16 that intercepted his Lear Jet wasn't even on alert duty, but just happened to be airborne at the time.

a reply to: sg1642

That would only go to support the official explanation not the conspiracy theories I can't see why anyone would say that.

They have stated things that were just as absurd. Case in point:

ACARS CONFIRMED - 9/11 AIRCRAFT AIRBORNE LONG AFTER CRASH UNITED 175 IN THE VICINITY OF HARRISBURG AND PITTSBURGH, PA

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I guess they were unaware that the 9/11 aircraft were tracked on radar, which confirmed their crash sites.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: sg1642

That would only go to support the official explanation not the conspiracy theories I can't see why anyone would say that.

They have stated things that were just as absurd. Case in point:

ACARS CONFIRMED - 9/11 AIRCRAFT AIRBORNE LONG AFTER CRASH UNITED 175 IN THE VICINITY OF HARRISBURG AND PITTSBURGH, PA

pilotsfor911truth.org...

I guess they were unaware that the 9/11 aircraft were tracked on radar, which confirmed their crash sites.

Pilots for 911 truth were as sleazy a bunch of characters as can be imagined. One may have been a pilot but a few of his henchmen couldn't fly a paper airplane across the office. I don't know if they are still extant and what they are trying to sell if they are.

a reply to: pteridine

I once questioned whether Rob Balsamo was a real pilot because of his many errors relating to the 9/11 aircraft, ACARS, radar, and even airframes, but another person later informed me that he was. However, I did find common ground with him on the impossibility of a NoC flight path regarding American 77. Other experienced pilots should have been aware of his errors as well.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
NORAD is not geared to track civilian aircraft within our borders.

LOL
I was going to write a response to that, but I think I just did.

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Bill Clinton saying, "The Trade Towers Collapsed and The Pentagon was Bombed" there are still people in this country who will say they have no problem with the 9/11 official narrative.
the plane simply vaporized but every flesh and bone was properly recovered ....?
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"NORAD is not geared to track civilian aircraft within our borders." -Skyeagle

I'm putting this quote on my fridge. Hahaha thank you skyeagle, you do your job so well

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

"After the September 11, 2001 attacks, the NORAD Air Warning Center's mission "expanded to include the interior airspace of North America."

Prior to 9/11 NORAD was concerned with aircraft coming from outside the US - mostly drug smugglers

On occasion Norad would intercept Soviet/Russian aircraft coming too close to the US coast - the ADIZ or Air Defense
Identification Zone .

Fighters would be sent to ID the unknown aircraft and escort them away

Efforts were geared to looking at aircraft from outside US borders

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

Interview with Boston Center Air Traffic Controller on 9/11

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Not a documentary, but this interview which is over an hour long has some NEW information about 9/11 which will surprise even those who have been researching 9/11 for the longest time.



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Don't watch anything from Alex Jones.

There are a ton on youtube: www.youtube.com...

ConspiracyScope has good, deep content on the subject.

Given its been about 4 years since I wrote the OP... Let me rephrase here in 2016...

Any docs that the debunkers have had a particularly hard time with? I must say I have to agree with SO on the quality problems of relying on youtube videos... At least for sound issues... I have to then agree with twitchy, I dont need to know a difference in compression rates or HD vs SD uploads for simple visuals. Audio, problems, visual? Well I revert to my own eyes no matter the quality.

If the Toronto hearings haven't convinced you
how about looking at the long list of the Official Story
documentaries done by regular citizens ?
Oh wait.. There aren't any.
That should be a clue.

a reply to: vipertech0596

Buildings that were undamaged by falling debris and not hit by a plane just don't fall down.