Existence According To Bone - Mind Blown In 3....2....1....

reply to post by Bone75


Thank you griffith uni from your Aussie ATS member well done!

This theory belongs to Dr. Suess and Horton Hears a Who.

reply to post by Bone75


I too have thought about this for a long time, but there is a flaw to this theory (though that doesnt mean to discredit this in any way):

At the cellular level, when the body grows additional cells are produced. As these cells are produced additional atoms are needed to build these cells.

Now at the universal level, the galaxies (which would be the cells at the biological level) are constantly expanding but not reproducing. Never has there been any record of a galaxy splitting into two.

Again, this doesnt necessarily mean this theory is wrong. It is entirely possible this universal organism operates under different factors, but to say it is entirely like that of the human body or any other multicellular organism we know of to date would be wrongly put.

Multicellular organism also bring in another side of this equasion, especially to the "we're created in his image" crowd. We cannot disregard the single cell organisms we know exist, so that throws a major cog in the fractal universe theory as well.

While i do think we may be heading down the right path, there are still a lot of unseen variables that must be taken into consideration.

reply to post by RiftValleyKid

Jenn, I find your connection to be excellent - God is all around, within and without us. That is the essence of what this theory resonates to me. But if you are intelligent enough to see that God is the Whole - why can Christians, and other religious fervists, not also have the intelligence to recognise that the prophets, channels and seers that have previously had the clarity to understand this oneness, and translated it as best they could for the average intelligence levels of their day - into the various books and metaphorical analaogies that carried this enlightenment, see that to adhere to such folklorish interptretations NOW, is detrimental to the greater undertsanding of this insight?

Because even though we're all connected physically, we're not all connected consciously (no matter how much someone wants to believe we are), leading to different interpretations of "oneness".

reply to post by Deetermined


Maybe memory recall is a player.... some remember and some dont on a subconscious and conscious level. The cells could be activated and recall is had on levels. We see this with the human experience.

Some people can tune in to others both here on Earth and "the other side".

Its meant to be as far as my pov because there is more light/energy within one than another.

The knowing of God takes on different levels for a reason. Each angle "matters".... literally, metaphysically and spiritually.

There are layers within an image.

IF we are made in Gods image then it makes sense.... to me anyway. Layers are needed and are not thrown into a pit of fire. They (atheists) matter just as much and make the circle complete in the "knowing" process of the image. The grand scale of the picture/experience, story, is complete. Its finished.

All is one. One is all.
There you have it. Put down your bible and your text books we can all go home now.
I jest. But that is a really interesting hypothesis, one i have come to on multiple occasions in several different manners. It is time we accept just how linked spirituality and science is and propel our race forward into the most peaceful and progressive existence we can. It seems we're almost there.. Keep doing what you're doing and thinking how you're thinking. Respect to you for this post!
s&f!
Peace.

Originally posted by mutatismutandis
reply to post by Bone75

 

I too have thought about this for a long time, but there is a flaw to this theory (though that doesnt mean to discredit this in any way):

At the cellular level, when the body grows additional cells are produced. As these cells are produced additional atoms are needed to build these cells.

Now at the universal level, the galaxies (which would be the cells at the biological level) are constantly expanding but not reproducing. Never has there been any record of a galaxy splitting into two.

Again, this doesnt necessarily mean this theory is wrong. It is entirely possible this universal organism operates under different factors, but to say it is entirely like that of the human body or any other multicellular organism we know of to date would be wrongly put.

Multicellular organism also bring in another side of this equasion, especially to the "we're created in his image" crowd. We cannot disregard the single cell organisms we know exist, so that throws a major cog in the fractal universe theory as well.

While i do think we may be heading down the right path, there are still a lot of unseen variables that must be taken into consideration.

Very good points you brought up. Im following this thread in the hopes yours and my questions can be answered.
The thoery has so many paradoxes im getting a headache lol

reply to post by MamaJ


The fact that there's a "theory" that "some remember and some don't" pretty much explains that there is never going to be a mutual understanding. It's a theory that can't be proven nor one that everyone will believe. There will never be universal awareness or knowledge on that subject while we're living a human life.

reply to post by Bone75


Nice find. Not trying to dispute your theory, but take what the head of the project said in the thread just below the images:

"We're pretty sure the rings are an artifact of subtle changes in the optical wavelength filter were are using."

-Erik Streed
Lecturer in Physics at Griffith University

Although he didn't properly check his spelling, my question is, what do you guys think we would see if there was no ripple effect?

Well with the way our world has gone to $h!t lately, I can only guess which part of this organism we reside in.

reply to post by Bone75


Thanks very much for sharing this idiology! "Seek, and ye shall find". Stay meek and teachable, homies!

reply to post by Deetermined


You cannot say that without doubt you are wrong.

Human awareness is an evolving process.

IF YOU think that Jesus was ever "self" aware and KNEW himself then there is THE answer. When he said it is finished (last words ya know) then it is evident to me we will ALL become self aware via atmospheric changes as he said he would come in on a cloud. People will be confused at first (clouded vision and all) and then we will all KNOW because the truth has already spoken via the "Word". The last spoken words were indeed Its Finished. The story then can be said to be complete. We are living and experiencing in "time". Past time in a cosmic sense. Real time in an Earthly sense.

I don't expect you or anyone for that "matter" to get in my mind and see what I see (my pov via light). I am trying to show you another angle of light though in which to think. Nothing more.

Jesus said we would do more than he. I believe him. We will evolve and are. Have hope in humanity.... we are destined to evolve.

I appreciate the OP because he scientifically draws a close link between one of the largest known bodies and one of smallest known bodies, whatever our belief system we cannot deny the similarity in design.

It is another example of a "Fingerprint" left behind.
The same as Fibonacci numbers and the golden rectangle as shown in this video

reply to post by Bone75


You displayed what I thought all my life in nice little package that everybody can understand. S & F for you. What made me think about this for most of my life was a video made in the early 80's.
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The video starts out with a man lying on the beach. All of a sudden the camera starts to move backwards. It goes past the clouds and in to space and passes the moon. Then goes sleight up and you see the sun with a bunch of stars, Then just stars and goes out of the galaxy in to this weird psychedelic place. Then the scenery changes to something that looks like red blood cells. Then the camera exits the guy on the beach. It was pretty awesome. I've tried finding that video but I don't think it exists anymore.

Originally posted by mutatismutandis
reply to post by Bone75

 

I too have thought about this for a long time, but there is a flaw to this theory (though that doesnt mean to discredit this in any way):

At the cellular level, when the body grows additional cells are produced. As these cells are produced additional atoms are needed to build these cells.

Now at the universal level, the galaxies (which would be the cells at the biological level) are constantly expanding but not reproducing. Never has there been any record of a galaxy splitting into two.

Again, this doesnt necessarily mean this theory is wrong. It is entirely possible this universal organism operates under different factors, but to say it is entirely like that of the human body or any other multicellular organism we know of to date would be wrongly put.

Multicellular organism also bring in another side of this equasion, especially to the "we're created in his image" crowd. We cannot disregard the single cell organisms we know exist, so that throws a major cog in the fractal universe theory as well.

While i do think we may be heading down the right path, there are still a lot of unseen variables that must be taken into consideration.

Actually scientist are beginning to find galaxies splitting... this isn't commonly accepted yet but there is a debate going on as to whether they do or dont. There's a video on youtube interviewing a group scientist explaining this phenomenon with photos of the galaxies splitting and perhaps forming binary galaxy. As soon as I find it I will post it here.

The scalar universe theory has actually been around before. When you think about it there is no threshold of minimum or maximum scale, we can scale things smaller and smaller or big as we want mathematically wise, it's all infinite.

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by galactix

 

Only on Sundays and every alternative Wednesdays. Sorry i just burst out laughing at some of the stuff on ATS recently.

Don't take yourself so seriously ! be free from your own dogma. Live the Chaos!

edit on 16-12-2012 by Hopeforeveryone because: typos, i love typos, ******* keyboard.

Some people do laugh at the mystics who like to think more deeply than perhaps you do. Some of us would like a bit less chaos too, as we have experienced enough of it over many lifetimes and we want to go home. I doubt you will get what I'm saying but the mystics will.

Good day to you young soul. You are free to experience as much chaos as you like.

reply to post by Bone75
This is something I think most of us think about, when we are younger. But if you look into a comparison of what you say and it just does not work.
If this was in any way close to being possible, I believe some of the great minds of today would be on track to a theory of this sort, but it just does not work.
It does not work on the Solar system scale, it does not work on the Galactic scale, I don't know how it would work on a Universal scale, but no one does.

The Universe is far to complex, to have such a simple solution, and a solution that would, then again answer nothing.

Not trying to disprove your theory, but this has all been thought of before, it is easy to see how it does not work on the scales you speak of. Atomic, molecular, take your pick, a simple similarity quickly separates into vastly different components, with subsequent no commonality.

reply to post by Bone75


*BONE75, your a brilliant man... a genius, most extraordinaire!*

Why does it have to be a living organism? Non-living organisms have atoms too right?

reply to post by MamaJ


Interesting that you put so much faith in a book written by man. Altered by the whims of man. Added to by the ego of man. Parts deleted by the fears of man.

You place so much importance on something that comes from man, made by man, and controlled by man. I'm afraid you're being misled by man in your own effort to experience something more than what life is giving you. I'm just very fascinated by a fellow spiritual person that hasn't really done a lot of introspection on where your beliefs come from and who shaped them. I find that most intellectual spiritual people move away from established religions when they finally realize how misguided they are.