So let me get this right. You want a government who are killing thousands of kids a day to take your

My god, the US government have just poisoned Iraq for 4.5 Billion years with not a care in the world! And you think the government cares about 20 odd children in a school! My god, how stupid are people! If Obama wanted to save children why doesnt he say, OK the US is responsible for uranium poisoning of thouands and we need to save all those children so lets clean it all up.

If people honestly believe the US government has childrens best interests at heart then your heading for the shock of your life. Look at the history of the US government and the war crimes worse than germany. And you want these war criminals to take your guns?

My god, you cant make this stuff up!!!

I can show you what the US government does to children, but the photos from vietnam, Iraq and elsewhere are just too damn graphic. So dont tell me that the government cares about children, ever.

They only want more power over the people to solidify their position to a permenant one. If people cannot see that then all is lost.

That was a breath of fresh air. Thank you.

Careful what you say here, or you'll be labelled a bleeding heart for kids around the world. Only if it happens in their own country does anyone seem to give a care.I do recall saying recently " Pray it doesn't happen where you live". I despise being right sometimes.

Not to mention,people only notice if it involves a gun or a random act of violence...
Kids are being murdered in many ways around the world, and it's swept under the rug.
How many die from cancer treatment, or abusive foster parents?Or the sex slavery rampant worldwide.
To the governments of this twisted planet, children are a commodity..an expendable commodity to be used to further any agenda they see fit.

It is unfortunate that anyone has to die for global imperialism, child or adult

The only interest your government has in your children is to sacrifice them to hasten it's objective - which is to disarm the citizenry. My question is why, after all these years, is the US gov so desperate to take your guns away? Why now? It doesn't make sense.

I truly believe your government is behind all these massacres, and employing such underhanded, heinous tactics as these to get it's way, makes me fear what could be in store for you all after you're forced to hand your weapons over.

In an armed population, a government which thinks nothing of, and perpetrates the slaughtering of your kids in cold blood, tells me it already doesn't fear it's people, I daren't imagine what it will do when you're all forced to disarm.

Don't trust your corrupt, lying, criminal government, don't give up your guns.

It's about time the US citizens march on their government with their guns...
but I guess we'll just see more anti/pro gun threads than a single thread about actually using the guns to stop all this madness.

Those schools are slave training facilities. It's like cows just got shot, as far as the elite are concerned. OP is dead right. The truth isn't pretty.

reply to post by TheMindWar

Our government really does care for kids. Never mind the nukes dropped on Japan, or the Napalm or Agent Orange used in Vietnam or the sanctions which killed a million in Iraq or to your point the tons of depleted uranium which has poisoned the Middle East for generations to come or well the daily murders from the drone strikes:

The day 69 children died

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reply to post by angryhulk


Are you saying that the US hasn't committed atrocities against children around the world? How do you conclude that the op's comments are ridiculous? What are you basing your position on? Open my eyes please....I'm all ears.

Originally posted by angryhulk

Originally posted by TheMindWar
And you think the government cares about 20 odd children in a school! My god, how stupid are people!

Yes you, you're stupid. What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. And the rest of you that agree, open your eyes, grow up.

I am grown up. When I used to believe my government actually cared about me, that's when I was immature and naive. Citizens are a crop to be harvested and used, nothing more. All we are is a SSN#, a potential soldier to die in their machinations, a potential cog in the prison economy, a faceless wage slave. You're the one who needs to grow up and open your damn eyes.

reply to post by Logarock


Don't drag a serious matter into the realms of a sick and twisted fantasy about the leader of the US. While you waste your mind and your time considering such dross you completely overlook the atrociousness of the realities of such things as depleted uranium, or collateral damage from drone strikes, or agent orange, or starvation due to sanctions, or death due to lack of basic medicines (due to sanctions).

Stick with the real world and you will perhaps be a participant in effective change.

reply to post by christina-66


Blah blah blah.

If you think about it....to your point.....what if the diff between a nation that used agent orange in a reckless manner and a nations that whole sales its unborn?

reply to post by Wide-Eyes


Thanks

Will people give up thier guns to a child killing government because of a a different child killer? How Ironic. Cant believe people may be that stupid. The US Government is no better than thr killer himself, they are the same.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

168 Children Just killed By US Government

Citizens are a crop to be harvested and used, nothing more.

Wow.

Well enjoying living out the rest of your life with that belief, I'm sure you will be very happy.

Oh, and sorry for having an opinion. Apparently that isn't aloud in this thread.

reply to post by Logarock


Well at least you've managed to come out of the realms of fantasy and into reality. That is a serious question and in my view the answer is individualism and choice.

The victims of agent orange had no control and no choice. Whether those who 'whole sale their unborn' are correct to do so is another matter.....but they choose to do so as individuals and they have control.

reply to post by angryhulk


The trouble with your post was that you completely disregarded the points raised in the op without supporting your position.

Originally posted by SilentE
It's about time the US citizens march on their government with their guns...
but I guess we'll just see more anti/pro gun threads than a single thread about actually using the guns to stop all this madness.

I've made that point many times on here over the years, including yesterday. Apparently, the guns are needed to stop a tyrannical government. According to 75% of the threads on here, America has got one now.

Everyone's angry about the alphabet agencies controlling drugs, the internet, abducting American civilians; the loss of rights and freedoms; the banking system; the taxes that are crippling the middle-classes; how Big Business runs government; how Big Business takes jobs abroad and kills off the little guy; how elections are rigged; how whole cities are becoming bankrupt 'ghost towns'; how people can't smoke or eat what they want any more; contrails poisoning the sky; Monsanto and fast food giants poisoning the food; how technology that will help Americans is suppressed; how schools are 'communist factories'; how a Muslim communist is sitting in the Whitehouse; how the Police are free to shoot, taser and beat innocent citizens; how the constitution is either being ignored or altered too much; how aid is sent to foreign countries whilst Americans go without on a daily basis; how a race war is quietly simmering in the background; how Mexicans are taking over the areas that blacks haven't take over; how America's borders aren't being protected; how the moral compass of America is being rotted away with too much pornography and not enough Jesus...

All this and more on any given day on ATS. And yet, nothing. All those guns and nothing.

reply to post by Merriman Weir


Only when the leaders show will the people start to march against government. Presently the government are doing everything possible to quell such leaders. Its not through a lack of people its not happened its because no leader yet has found the courage to stand up and say "FOLLOW ME!.