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Originally posted by Jusvistn
reply to post by Quadrivium
maybe the drugs the health providers put them on. Seems to me that some of these drugs cause a complete loss of empathy in the child that takes them. They go from feeling overwhelmed and confused to feeling nothing at all. Makes one wonder what is worse. And how many of them actually need to take a pill every day? Is it really a necessity or a cop out because ppl don't want to deal with their kids? Should mental health providers be trying to get to the cause of a problem in a person first and then treat with meds if absolutely needed? Seems to me that they drug them up FIRST and THEN put them through counciling, which seems counter productive if the drugs are dimming their senses of morality and compassion. They can't get to the root of a problem and solve the problem if they don't even CARE about the problem any more. I've heard first hand from parents who "just can't deal with their kid any more and don't know what to do" but has never once tried to put their foot down and discipline the child, put their child on ridlin.
Originally posted by MidnightSunshine
One thing they all have in common that I forgot to mention, they are all male.
I need to sleep now but I'm going to start a list of questions. Feel free to add more questions to the list in some kind of order...
1) Age and nationality
2) Location of shooting (ie. Connecticut/school)
3) Where he grew up/lived
4) Any disease, disorder, or medical condition that started at birth
5) Notes on school experiences
BTW I'm not overly sensitive so crapping all over me or my thoughts (with out a valid point of course) won't bother me and will be ignored
edit on 15-12-2012 by MidnightSunshine because: (no reason given)
A series of uncoordinated mass stabbings, hammer attacks, and cleaver attacks in the People's Republic of China began in March 2010. The spate of attacks left at least 21 dead and some 90 injured. Analysts have blamed mental health problems caused by rapid social change for the rise in these kind of mass murder and murder-suicide incidents.[1]
The choice of schools for most of the attacks means they could be copycat crimes.[14][23]
BEIJING -- On Friday morning, a lone angry man walked up to an elementary school and attacked the most vulnerable people he could find, children ages of 6 to 11. It was almost the same scenario as in Newtown, Conn., except this was in Henan Province, China, and the attacker was armed only with a knife, not a gun. He injured 22 children, but nobody was killed.
China has experienced a number of attacks on schools by men using knives or meat cleavers. The perpetrators were mostly middle-aged men who had lost jobs or homes. In 2010, nearly 20 children were killed and more than 50 injured in a string of separate attacks. In the most serious of the cases, in Fujian province, a knife-wielding man killed eight children.
The latest case took place in Xinyang City, Henan Province. The attacker was a 36-year-old man, Min Yingjun, who police said had psychological problems. He apparently took the kitchen knife from an elderly woman whom he also slashed. In aNOTHER case earlier this week in Beijing, a 25-year-old man was arrested for cutting young women on the subway. Police said he had been jilted by his girlfriend and wanted to exact "revenge on society."
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by Stormdancer777
You would have thought his mother who was a teacher would have had some sort of clue.
Yeah, you might have thought that. But teachers are not trained to be parents, they are trained to deliver lessons, maybe to develop rapport, and how to measure outcomes. I've known some really CRAP teachers. Also some CRAP parents. The two are not mutually inclusive.
Why is this happening, has it always been like this but today with mass media we just hear more
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by Stormdancer777
You would have thought his mother who was a teacher would have had some sort of clue.
Yeah, you might have thought that. But teachers are not trained to be parents, they are trained to deliver lessons, maybe to develop rapport, and how to measure outcomes. I've known some really CRAP teachers. Also some CRAP parents. The two are not mutually inclusive.
I heard today, she had to leave her job to care for him, seems everyone around him knew he was hard for her to handle, seems many of these mass murderers are known by the community and nothing is ever done.
This could have been prevented,edit on 113131p://bSaturday2012 by Stormdancer777 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by Stormdancer777
Why is this happening, has it always been like this but today with mass media we just hear more
You weren't asking me, but, in my opinion, yes. We hear more about it all, but it's always gone on.
(Hi, Dee!)
There's probably a lot of different angles we could approach this phenomenon with. One that swims through my mind is the taboo effect.
Maybe you should research this a little bit more before answering.
It has absolutely NOT always been like this.
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by newcovenant
Maybe you should research this a little bit more before answering.
It has absolutely NOT always been like this.
My friend, yes, it has.
I do plenty of research, and violence and mass murdering has been going on for thousands of years.
I am also "qualified" to discuss human behavior - it is my chosen profession. There is nothing new about massacres.
According to the 2010 FBI crime data, since 1980, single victim killings have dropped by more than 40 percent. While that's very good news, there's a new sobering trend:
Mass murders are on the rise.
This New York Times article researched the frequency of mass murders.
It found during the 20th century there were about one to two mass murders per decade until 1980.
Then for no apparent reason they spiked, with nine during the 1980s and 11 in the 1990s.
Since the year 2000 there have been at least 26, including the massacre in Aurora, Colorado.
It's perhaps too easy to forget how many times this has happened.
The horrific mass murder at a movie theater in Colorado on July 20, another at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin on August 5, and another at a manufacturer in Minneapolis on September 27 are the latest in an epidemic of such gun violence over the last three decades.
Since 1982, there have been at least 62 mass murders* carried out with firearms across the country, with the killings unfolding in 30 states from Massachusetts to Hawaii.
I heard today, she had to leave her job to care for him, seems everyone around him knew he was hard for her to handle, seems many of these mass murderers are known by the community and nothing is ever done.
This could have been prevented,