Am I the only one who smells a rat in CT?

I listened as the drama unfolded in CT, and as others seemed to be horrified by the news I tried to be horrified as well, but couldn't. I tried imagining my own son in that situation, or my three-year-old goddaughter, but the unreality of it wouldn't allow me to feel anything appropriate. In times like these, I analyze myself, to try to understand why I might feel the way I do. That's when it hit me: there is something very wrong here.

Think about it for a moment. This is perfect timing for a horrific event. We're gearing up for what is nominally considered to be the happiest time of the year. Children are extatic over the prospect of a tree loaded with presents. Carols fill the air. Then, suddenly, there's a horrific event to shock us numb.

I've felt this way before. I felt this way when the news of the young black girl being pummelled by white republicans was released. I just knew that, within a day or less, it would turn out to be a hoax. And it was. I felt this way with Tawana Brawley (sp?) when the wild claims started circulating. I didn't feel this way about Columbine, or Waco, or any of the other horrific deaths which have occurred and grabbed the public conciousness.

So what do I know that I'm not telling myself?

I know that two brothers attacked a school in Newville, CT.
I know that one of them gained entry to the locked school.
I know that their mother worked there with special-needs children.
I know that their girlfriends were being saught in a purple van.
I know that one of their girlfriends was reported as being dressed in a nun's habit.
I know that it's christmas.
I know that Hollywood is currently spewing unending rants in favor of gun-control.
I know that NOW IS THE PERFECT TIME FOR SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

That last one is in caps, because it's the reason I'm waiting to feel anything. I can smell it. I can taste it. I can see it approaching like a leech stretching across the mud towards my leg. Am I the only one?

I would further like to ask the mod's permission to allow anti-me rants in this thread. If you need someone to rail at about this, lamblast me. Not only can I take it, but I won't take it personally. Let fly, to release the angst, so that we can all figure this out together.

But no matter how loudly you scream, or how many all-caps messages you leave, it won't change this feeling.

Something is very, very wrong.

Convenient timing indeed. CNN is already reporting on past talks Obama has had about banning "assault" weapons/reinstating the 1994-2004 ban.

I don't want to say that this is a conspiracy by the Federal government, but I sure am going to look closely at everything in the evidence pile. This could be something else entirely, but it SCREAMS of being a set-up. Whether the work of a fringe group who want gun control, or a Federal set-up, or the result of an FBI informant staging an attack to get paid (then failing to stop it), or even the hand of God: something is just amazingly wrong with this picture. Something smells of fish, and I've showered recently.

Yeah I have this aching feeling in the pit of my stomach too. And I too, though I truly feel for those who lost their lives and those who lost a child, mother, husband or father, know there is something wrong here and it's more than the killing of these poor people. It's the death of our society and civilization. Some people don't see it unfortunately because the ruse has worked and so very well. I mean how can one argue for the Second Amendment without sounding like a neo nazi? How will one be able to argue freedom of speech if that speech is contrary to the agenda and the general opinion? And it's not about guns to begin with. It's really about the path we will be forced to travel down. The lifeless conformity has been depicted in many novels and movies. It's our future. We will have to conform in or be dismissed in oh so many ways. It's not America any more. Not even close.

I honestly cried when this happened. I have a 10 year old daughter and no one could not give their child an extra hug when they picked them up today. Some parents didn't get to do that today, and will never be able to do that again with their child.

With that being said, it seemed unreal. I won't be watching the news until much later but as usual they are the mouthpiece for the government. Release a statement about what happened and everyone accepts it as truth.

When I watched the news earlier, already they were talking about what kinds of guns he had, whether they were legal, how did he get them.

What a way to take the story off of the mental stability of the shooter, possible motives, victims families and focus it instead on his guns.

It seems like every other week there is a shooting in some public area. This is still the beginning of the terror campaign if they truly want to take away guns.

I really don't know what to believe anymore.

Yes i too smell a rat, however, TPTB if they set this up and it is not just random occurance, then we must have another PTB? As how ironic it is to have 22 individuals dying at an "elementary" school in China with a knife, on the same day as the CT shooting. So in laymans terms here. TPTB in the states has a nemesis, whom put the same focusing event that happened at CT, but with a butter knife in China, thus hard to say that this scenario would only play out with guns, as it happened with a knife. Understand? Regardless, both are sad incidents, and not exceptable.

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It has certainly crossed my mind. Its just too well timed. There is a huge list of possibilities. Obama wasn't able to pass any gun regulation in his first term, fresh into his 2nd term and all these shootouts pop up. What better time and place than a school a week and a half before christmas? Or maybe it all is just bad timing, a coincidence. Maybe this guy was a hardcore end of the world/december 21st/nirubu/planet x/WW3 believer and wanted to go out with a bang? All I can say is to research it all for yourself and NEVER get tied down to the bs MSM.

I have been talking to my wife about this very topic. The escalation of these events seem to be heading somewhere to to meet some goal.
A mass shooting by an armored psycho(s) in a place that idolizes gun-play(movies) for adults
A mass shooting by an armed psycho(s) in a place of worship to affect faith
A mass shooting by an armed psycho(s) in a shopping center with all ages of people involved
And now a mass shooting by an armed psycho(s) in a school with innocent children
This effort is doing two things. One making people fear leaving their own home, and two bringing all walks of life together against one common enemy.
I also get the impression that they (whoever is organizing this) is getting desperate. I cant imagine something worse than hurting kids. If next week we get a report about a shooting in a nursing home, well that will cover about everything.
I just know one thing. I will be a criminal if they ban guns, because I REFUSE to give up my 2nd amendment to protect my family.

So, what else do I know?

I know that the shooter's father lived in Stamford, CT.

m.stamfordadvocate.com...

I know that the shooter's father worked as a Vice President of Taxation for GE Energy Financial:

en.wikipedia.org...

I know from these links that the father had ties to Brazil, Jordan, and Canada (as well as various areas in the US). Regardless, this also tells me that the shooter did not come from a low-brow home. He was raised in an afluent area, with affluent parents, and all the benefits of such an affluent upbringing.

So here are my predictions for the coming few days:

MSM will begin postulating that he was part of some conservative hate-group
MSM will then be shocked (shocked!) to discover that he was a part of OWS.
Everyone will be so involved with looking at that, that they will not think to follow the leads relating to the father.

Did you note in the Stamford Advocate article how the father reacted? Think about it for a few.

Bad conspiracies, like bad dinner guests, smell worse the next day.

Westlynx, what about puppies? How about the senseless murder of puppies and kittens in a no-kill shelter by the deranged children of former PETA activists! The horror!

reply to post by herrw

Of course that would come after the nursing home and/ hospital, because if you don't get PETA involved, all their plans would crumble lol!

I wonder if Obama will win an Oscar for the attempt to cry.

My money is we will have a bill for some sort of gun control on his desk by Monday.

And yes it does seem VERY convenient when the wave has been built up over the past year.


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Originally posted by rudeboyrave
I really don't know what to believe anymore.

that's exactly how some people here on ATS want you to feel...as to the poster, NO!!....only a few believe this is part of some grand conspirecy. this was carried out by a disturbed, unhinged, copycat..... there is a reason for psychiatric hospitals and psychiatrists. there are tens opf thousands of people here in america alone, that are NOT wired right...they are nuts, to put it simply. government needs to spend money and institutionalize these people...why??....because they GO OUT AND DO THIS!!!

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The choked up pause was probably the result of how far he had to go to get his sole reason for being(gun ban) passed.

Originally posted by herrw


Think about it for a moment. This is perfect timing for a horrific event.

As FDR said, "Nothing happens by accident."

reply to post by Bilk22

Part of the problem with defending the Second Amendment is that proponents are sheepish in defending it based on the rationale of the Founding Fathers (anti-tyrrany)....as if to sound like a kook. Instead they focus on self defense (which is inalienable also) and hunting (which usually requires a license).

Originally posted by CosmicCitizen

Originally posted by herrw


Think about it for a moment. This is perfect timing for a horrific event.

As FDR said, "Nothing happens by accident."

what he meant was that there is always a reason accidents happened...not...that all of them were planned. big difference

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True but I'm under the realization that unfortunately the average citizen can no longer go head to head with the armaments of our government. Maybe until the first world war we had a chance, but nowadays, not a chance. So with that concept in mind, I choose to use the 2nd amendment to arm myself to protect family and myself.

Doesn't this come in a neat little package?
Mentally unstable young white man takes mothers guns, kills mom, goes to school , kills 26 more then shoots self.
End of story,, now for the gun control so we can never have this happen again.