Americans, Isn't It Time You Relinquished Your Weapons.

Having gun available just makes it easier for the person to do their killings.

If this was a place where gun is illegal, he would have to go thru a lot of trouble to obtain one, carry one, then shoot.

reply to post by oper8zhin


Booze related death for the year 2011 were 8790 in the UK. Times that by 5 to compensate for population and you are still no where near the number of gun related death in the US.

www.ons.gov.uk...

ALS

Someone one time wrote something that I disagreed with.

They used a computer to do so.

All computers then must be banned.

The "tool" is defined by the user. Be it gun, paperclip, or a cone of ice cream

Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by oper8zhin

Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by oper8zhin
Its always a BRIT who feels the NEED to stick their noses in Americas business when it comes to firearms. They have you Brits SO DAMNED BRAINWASHED over there thats its CRAZY. No its actually SAD!!!!!!!

I bet there are more deaths resulting from BRITS GETTING ALCOHOL POISONING over there than there are gun deaths in America. MAYBE WE SHOULD BAN ALCOHOL, EH BRITS??!!!!

Please don't assume all the British feel this way.

We don't.

And they're working on the alcohol thing already over here.

I didnt say "all Brits" I said that its "always a brit" who has to stick their noses in American affairs when it comes to firearms. A topic that Brits know nothing about and should MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS because they have ENOUGH PROBLEMS OVER THERE TO WORRY ABOUT...

I didn't say you said 'all Brits'.

I stand corrected.

People who do shootings like this always go for people who are defenseless and also without guns. They find a place where they know there is going to be no guns and easy targets. Why don't we ever have a shooting at a knife and gun rally? There are lots of places with large crowds of people to choose from, but people always seem to pick the most defenseless and also a place with gun control.

If there are more places with people without guns there will still be shootings because bad people who plan this stuff will get weapons by any means, and they will just love it that there are more defenseless targets.

reply to post by ALOSTSOUL


Sorry but there was not 43,950 gun deaths in the US in 2011.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by oper8zhin

 

Booze related death for the year 2011 were 8790 in the UK. Times that by 5 to compensate for population and you are still no where near the number of gun related death in the US.

www.ons.gov.uk...

ALS

Really? Total number of murders in the US hovers somewhere around 50 000 a year (and gun-related murders will be some fraction of that number).

8790 * 5 = 43 950 death a year.

Seems pretty near to me.

Originally posted by luciddream
Having gun available just makes it easier for the person to do their killings.

If this was a place where gun is illegal, he would have to go thru a lot of trouble to obtain one, carry one, then shoot.

Nonsense!!

Drugs are illegal and I don't know a single person who can not, very easily, obtain them. We can not even keep drugs out of a maximum security prison.

Know something else? It IS VERY illegal to have a gun anywhere near a school in this Country yet the shooter did not have too much trouble getting into the school with one did he?

Making guns illegal will do nothing to stop a person with an intent to kill.

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by oper8zhin

 

Booze related death for the year 2011 were 8790 in the UK. Times that by 5 to compensate for population and you are still no where near the number of gun related death in the US.

www.ons.gov.uk...

ALS

Thats a MIGHTY LOT OF DEATHS from BEVERAGES, eh? What do you say we BAN all them alcoholic beverages for Brits, eh?

I as an outsider say that you Brits (most of you) are not responsible enough with alcohol and that it should be BANNED. AGREE? It will SAVE lots of DEATHS, right?? WELL THEN, are you with me on the Brit Alcohol Ban idea?

reply to post by Maslo


The stats say that there were 37,000 death via guns in the us in 2011. But a lot more people drink than own guns so it kind of balances out.

ALS

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by Maslo

 

The stats say that there were 37,000 death via guns in the us in 2011. But a lot more people drink than own guns so it kind of balances out.

ALS

Thats not true in my area!!

Where are you getting your facts from Britain?

reply to post by oper8zhin


If the said alcohol was being forced down the necks of the dead then I would say yes.

ALS

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by oper8zhin

 

Booze related death for the year 2011 were 8790 in the UK. Times that by 5 to compensate for population and you are still no where near the number of gun related death in the US.

www.ons.gov.uk...

ALS

In 2011 there were 12,632 gun homicides in the U.S. the number 37,000 includes suicides.

reply to post by oper8zhin


No I'm getting them for you government, lets not get childish.

Number of deaths: 31,347

www.cdc.gov...

reply to post by beezzer


C'mon Beezer, your a smart guy.

Those comments simply desensitise the situation.

ALS

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by oper8zhin

 

No I'm getting them for you government, lets not get childish.

Number of deaths: 31,347

www.cdc.gov...

Your link says, "All Firearm Deaths" which means that includes accidental shootings, hunting accidents and suicides. What happened today is murder.

Originally posted by luciddream
Having gun available just makes it easier for the person to do their killings.

If this was a place where gun is illegal, he would have to go thru a lot of trouble to obtain one, carry one, then shoot.

Completely false. There are places in the US where guns are illegal and they still have high crime rates involving guns. New York City and Chicago to be specific. Drugs are illegal but it's extremely easy to get those as well.

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by oper8zhin

 

If the said alcohol was being forced down the necks of the dead then I would say yes.

ALS

HUH??!!!!!!!!!

So are you saying that all of those British deaths resulted from alcohol being "poured down peoples throats" and therefore the reason why you would ban it ONLY for that reason??? All of them deaths occured in Britan from people having alcohol "forced down their throats"????

What about an intoxicated driver crashing into an innocent family on the roadways, and KILLING THEM ALL?? Or something such as an intoxicated madman going around with a KNIFE slaughtering dozens of people over there because of alcohol. Alcohol that these morons poured with his OWN HANDS down their OWN THROAT. It doesnt take someone else pouring it down a persons throat, these deaths result from them drinking it themselves. Do you see how silly your logic is?? You are clearly AVOIDING the question.

So since you will only ban alcohol in Britain if someone was "forcing it down their throats", well maybe you think we should BAN HANDS AND THROATS NEXT, eh?

There are million more ways alcohol can RUIN PEOPLES LIVES without it being "poured down their throats". You are being a HYPOCRITE. You wont agree to BAN ALCOHOL IN BRITAIN even in the face of SO MANY DEATHS, but yet at the same time suggest firearms be banned in America over rare shooting events. THAT MAKES YOU A HYPOCRITE.

Get lost.

Sorry just reading through this thread and some things are just incredible.

I just read a guy saying that this wouldn't have happened if the teachers had guns ... So wait you want the teachers of 6 YEAR OLD KIDS to have guns in the classroom?

then you all say the gun is merely a tool...

Yes a gun is a tool, a tool to do one job: kill.

Had there been strict gun control, it would have been significantly harder for this person to have obtained the "Tool" and perfrom it's singular purpose.

And I can assure you, we Brits are not jealous of your guns at all. In fact when we get the monthly reports of the murder of dozens of innocent people, we shake our heads and wonder when you guys are gonna grow the # up.

reply to post by SaltireWarrior

Are you sure you're not French?