Boy was Enoch Ever Right! The Meaning of the Mayan Calendar Solved on ATS

Originally posted by polyphemus75
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Well said, you just explained why bullies bully, I'm curious, do you think Ariel Sharon is a modern day Methuselah, he has been in a coma for six years, the Rabbi Kaduri stated the Messiah would return when Ariel Sharon dies, fascinating times.

The Kaduri thing is very curious. I was surprised that Israel pushed this aside. Kaduri was their most respected Rabbi. I have a permanent bookmark on my link bar as a Google search for 'Ariel Sharon'. I check it daily by the 24 hour filter.

Originally posted by AeonStorm

Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Originally posted by AeonStorm
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

I'm sorry... I think I missed something from the OP ...so where did you get the information that "Pyramids around the Earth mark the kingdoms and territory of the Watchers" .... and who exactly are the watchers? ... I'm trying to understand.

Respect,

-AS-

First, read the book of Enoch. Then, watch this video and read this thread: Links to Pyramids and other Structures as related to Zero Point Meridian of Giza

Thanks for the info EWR. But is there a reason that you cannot provide a summary?

Respect,

-AS-

There is no substitute for reading it yourself. The PDF has commentary.

Enoch

EnochWasRight, I have for long been connecting dots as you, and I must say, you often make me smile. Regardless of your methods (which seem to be quite on spot sometimes even though surprisingly intuitive, be it God's will), I see in your claims much of the same that I have come down to line in connectivity. Man clearly spoke in a very different way in the past and one must seek to understand those riddles and metaphors to see the meaning of them.

I do believe you are doing a good job, and have made your will to His. And therefore I do ask of you to bear in mind that the past is not our salvation/condemnation, nor our future. The time is now, and we all should live by it. Do not forget yourself in seeking for that which was or will be, rather, try to find Him at all times, for lo, he is, he was and he always will be at all times, everywhere. Find the kingdom and be there.

I am not ridiculing your work, it is good work, and you may well be aware of what I am saying but rather I thought it would be good to remind, as no one is reminded often enough.

Keep up the good work and pray for workers of the gospel.

Originally posted by abeverage If sir by this post you are trying to exact a date at which the return of the Christian God will arrive let me refresh your memory from another portion of that book from which you quote. And one of my favorite for guys like Harold or others who try to predict the "END". lol Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Pretty sure that negates any calculations, or coincidences, or comparisons to Mayans as well. edit on 14-12-2012 by abeverage because: (no reason given) edit on 14-12-2012 by a beverage because: (no reason given)

Matthew 24:35 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

No one ever reads the previous verse when quoting this verse. We have to look at it in context.The Greek word for "that" in verse 36 is "ekeinēs" which means specifically that or that certain thing. The last day mentioned here is the day that heaven and earth pass away. Concerning the day of the return of Yahushua we are told many times that we will know the times and seasons or appointed times. The Feast Days. The Fall Feast days are the key to the Second Coming. If we are watching we will know the day of His return. It is stated many many times. Everyone must learn to read the Scriptures in context, and understand the Torah as well. So which day does no man know? The day HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY not the day of the Second Coming. The Messiah's coming is linked to the Feast of Trumpets. This also means He cannot come "at any time." The Fall Feasts are the only ones not yet fulfilled by Christ. He died on Passover, was laid in the tomb on Unleavened Bread, rose on First Fruits, and put the Torah in our hearts by the Holy Spirit on Shavuot the day of Pentecost. So we can deduce just by this, that the Feasts of Yahweh in the fall are linked to the Second Coming.

1 Thessalonians 5:4 "But ye, brethren, are NOT IN DARKNESS, that that day should overtake you as a thief."

Revelation 3:3 "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. IF THEREFORE THOU SHALT NOT WATCH, I will come on thee as a thief, and THOU SHALT NOT KNOW WHAT HOUR I SHALL COME UPON THEE."

So since we are not in darkness, since we walk in the light, and Christ says in Revelation chapter 3 that only to those who are not watching shall He come like a thief, we can see this is a very common myth. There is also the homeowner and the thief parable.

Christ arrives on the Feast of Trumpets followed by the 10 Days of Awe between Trumpets and Yom Kippur while the wrath is poured out on the Earth. Then on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, we exit the chambers. Then 75 days later in resuming the 1335 day count of Daniel, we land on Hanukkah 2016 where the Temple is rededicated. It is clear that the Third Temple mentioned in Scripture is Millennial, not built by Antichrist. The Great Tribulation begins the day after winter and the day before a Sabbath per Matthew 24.

Matthew 24:20 "But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:"

Matthew 24:21 "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be."

Many people miss this important statement by Christ, that the Great Tribulation begins when the Abomination of Desolation occurs during the spring time after the equinox and before a Saturday (evening to evening would be Friday sundown.). 1260 days from this Day to the end of the 1260 must be a Feast of Trumpets since the Fall Feasts have not been fulfilled yet. So this means that the 1290 days in Daniel must start before the 1260 days. This day would be Purim of February 2013. Let me make it clear that this is not a "Thus saith Yahweh" statement, yet it is a certain possibility in which all signs line up perfectly.

Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be
darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall
fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"

The sun shall be darkened (partial solar eclipse) (not totally dark)

The moon shall not give it's light (New Moon) (Day of Trumpets occurs on the New Moon)

Stars shall fall from heaven (constellations and heavenly bodies on the lower ecliptic in the fall actually look like they are crashing to Earth. Orion is a great example of this.)

So on this future Feast of Trumpets there will be a partial solar eclipse and a New Moon by default and of course during the season of fall. Also, a solar eclipse only happens when there is a New Moon to begin with, and both of them cannot be out in the sky at the same time in our view, so a literal sign interpretation is the best way to go. However in Ezekiel 32 He does mention the heavens will be covered with darkness in a seemingly supernatural fashion, so there shall be supernatural events as well. He is quoting Isaiah 13 in Matthew 24.

Isaiah 13:9 "Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce
anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners
thereof out of it."

Isaiah 13:10 "For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give
their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon
shall not cause her light to shine."

So from all of this we know he must return in the Fall on a Feast of Trumpets on a day with a partial or even annular solar eclipse. Not to say that supernatural signs won't happen, its just that Yahweh is usually literal about everything.

So perhaps since the 70 Weeks of Daniel and Jubilee Cycle point to Feast of Trumpets 2016 we can deduce that the 1260 days starts in March of 2013 specifically the evening of March 21 to the evening of March 22,2013. Also the 33rd anniversary of the Georgia Guide Stones. We know how the occultists love their 33s. This is also a big blow to the 7 year tribulation theory, since Christ makes it clear it begins when Antichrist defiles the temple. Daniel 9:27 is talking about confirming or making strong an already existing covenant as in Jeremiah 31 with both Houses of Israel. In the middle of the seven year period the Messiah is cut off. So this leaves one last 3.5 year period left to end history and finish confirming the covenant. There are two individuals referred to in Daniel 9 not one. The Messiah and the anti messiah. Daniels seventy weeks also says the phrase "even in troublesome times." This is a hint that it has a dual fulfillment in the End Times. 70 weeks can also be taken to mean 70 "Feast of Weeks" or Shavuot. The actual decree to restore and build Jerusalem and the Israel state was given in 1947 by the United Nations, followed by the events of 1948. If you count seventy Pentecosts from that Year you end up at 2017, with Messiah coming in the 69th year, being 2016. The layers of prophecy are astounding. He is coming soon. So since from March 22,2013 starts the 1260 days, we can conclude that Christ will return on the clouds between the evening of August 31st, to the evening of September 1st, 2016. This date is the day when all of the signs line up. If not, we are still to obey Him and teach everyone to observe the commandments and His work of redemption and resurrection for the House of Israel and all men to be atoned for. However, this possibility seems to be guaranteed by signs literally lining up. Then we have the blood moon tetrad in the middle of it all 2014/15.

reply to post by yahushuasaves


That is truth. I agree with you that too often men take things out of context, and often enough we see them doing it to try to achieve what they percieve is their own longing. Often trying to make others fall or fixating it onto their own agenda.

This was nice of you.

What are you saying is going to happen on the 21st of December, and which timezone? For example, when it's the 21st in Australia, it isn't the 21st in the United States.

Secondly, you said the two witnesses are here today. Are you talking about living flesh witnesses? If so, who are they?

reply to post by EnochWasRight


So planet Earth is, according to you and your calculations, 6 thousand years old? How do dinosaurs fit into this timeline of yours? Did the apostles ride on raptors and eat brontoburgers? I really want to know.

Originally posted by Snoopy1978
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

This is my short answer.

So planet Earth is, according to you and your calculations, 6 thousand years old? How do dinosaurs fit into this timeline of yours? Did the apostles ride on raptors and eat brontoburgers? I really want to know.

The Bible speaks of God making the 'image' of man and this world in Genesis 1. It took six days. In Biblical terms, this may very well be 6,000 years. He then rests for one day. This makes 7000 years in typical Biblical language. In Genesis 2, the image is rendered to matter. Man shows up on the sixth day in the first chapter and is engaged on the 8th day in the second week. Today, we are on the 13th day, or the end of the 6th day of week 2. In typical Biblical fashion, God mirrors truth in the middle. Since the day of rest on day 7 was good, and mankind on day 6 was good, then the new man at the end of day 6 will be good, followed by 1000 years of rest with Christ. That makes 14,000 years.

Another way to say this is by showing that the golden mean is part of Time/Space. God told this story from his perspective. Time dilation would allow us to infer that God is not restricted to our time/space, nor would his perspective and frame of reference be ours. Since the first six days would have been the longest on the curve of the golden ratio of 1:1.618, then Day 8 would be much shorter. Day 14 even shorter as we approach a singularity and the coil unwinds. Specifically, the Bible suggests that multiplicity must return to unity.

When Peter was not catching fish, Jesus called form the shore to fish on the right side of the boat. When he did, he caught 153 fish. Pythagoras taught us that this 17th triangular number is "The Measure of the Fish" and the square root of 2. If you take the ratio of 1:1.415, you can make a Vesica piscis, or intersecting circles. This is the Fish of the Way. What is the way? Fish on the right side of truth. What is the right side?

God's will is to give and receive only. In other words, a true conservative. The left side takes. Liberals can only take for self. This is objectivism. Altruism is the ideal of the conservative, yet in our day and age, there are few true conservatives left. Ayn Rand was incorrect in her philosophy. We do not own our soul. It is on loan, as is the very spirit (Consciousness) we use to move and think.

Is the Earth 6,000 years old. NO. At least 14,000 and as much as 14 billion. It depends on the nature of time increasing by a ratio, the multiplicity of things and the unity of the whole. Time is not Space, it's time/space and your reckoning of time is based on your time and space. God's is not.

All things flow from a source. Frosty the Snowman is made of unique flakes, yet will return to one pool. The True Meaning of the Song Frosty. Rivers are also dew. Dew rises when the sun rises and is distilled (Impurity removed).

Isaiah 26

19 But your dead will live, Lord;
their bodies will rise—
let those who dwell in the dust
wake up and shout for joy—
your dew is like the dew of the morning;
the earth will give birth to her dead.
20 Go, my people, enter your rooms
and shut the doors behind you;
hide yourselves for a little while
until his wrath has passed by.
21 See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling
to punish the people of the earth for their sins.
The earth will disclose the blood shed on it;
the earth will conceal its slain no longer.

What is Adam? He was first mentioned on Day 8. Before this, mankind is mentioned. In Genesis 6, we see other beings from other parts of heaven coming down to have their way with Earth Women. The flood happens and we then see a return to the same corruption. What is the plan for Earth after this? 1000 years of rest. No matter where you look, the same evidence points to humans for 14,000 years. Is God restricted from having mankind present for 2,000 years and then Adam being the man created on day 8? Christ is the new blood (DNA) of the next man. What do you suppose this means for day 15? To find out, you must be born again. Baptism is our immersion in the water to rise to new life. Involution is baptism. Rising to new life is evolution. Do we have evidence for this process?

Gospel of the Nazarenes (Lection 88)

12. For by involution and evolution shall the salvation of all the world be accomplished: by the Descent of Spirit into matter, and the Ascent of matter into Spirit through the ages.

Involution and Evolution

Axioms can only be evident. What is most evident as you look at your map of this territory?

Originally posted by Hydroman
What are you saying is going to happen on the 21st of December, and which timezone? For example, when it's the 21st in Australia, it isn't the 21st in the United States.

Secondly, you said the two witnesses are here today. Are you talking about living flesh witnesses? If so, who are they?

Tribulation. That's my long answer.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


I give up. Honestly I do. I'm leaving this thread. I apologise for attempting to make any sense of the biblical nonsense you spout.

The bible hasn't even been translated properly. The Chronicle Project Team are restoring it and it reads VERY DIFFERENTLY to the main translations in Modern Bibles.

The Heel of Christ? Where does that come into it? All of a sudden you're talking about bruised heels and heads. All I wanted to know was if you are saying that when the countdown ends do the Watchers return?

The only thing a bruised heel is going to do when it crushes a head is bruise the heel some more, and hurt, and possible get infected from broken bone penetrating the skin.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


All of the signs seem to point to March 22,2013 (evening of the 21st begins this day) as the date of the Abomination of Desolation. However your math also lines up quite well it would seem. Great job on the thread. Yet, it would make more sense that the Mayan Calendar is a Satanic ploy by the Adversary to deceive mankind. After all, many signs from all of these topics point to something to do with serpent gods, the sun gods, Watchers, and David Flynn made those very great points about the Mount Hermon connection. Rob Skiba has put this together pretty well also. If anything December 21 2012 is a very possible date for the Watchers to deceive mankind along with the Nephilim. Or it could be just another day. Considering Daniel seems to say that the 10 king order must be formed before Antichrist gets control of the Atlantis type government, and he uproots three horns by the roots, it might be a date too soon for his appearance. Then again we will see. Prophecy can happen in one day as was the case with Isaiah prophesying that the nation would be born at once. Very interesting times we are living in.

Originally posted by LightAssassin
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

I give up. Honestly I do. I'm leaving this thread. I apologise for attempting to make any sense of the biblical nonsense you spout.

The bible hasn't even been translated properly. The Chronicle Project Team are restoring it and it reads VERY DIFFERENTLY to the main translations in Modern Bibles.

The Heel of Christ? Where does that come into it? All of a sudden you're talking about bruised heels and heads. All I wanted to know was if you are saying that when the countdown ends do the Watchers return?

The only thing a bruised heel is going to do when it crushes a head is bruise the heel some more, and hurt, and possible get infected from broken bone penetrating the skin.

You asked me to clarify my position. The video at the end clarifies what I state about the loaf being the Church. Enoch is the topic of this thread and how this relates to the Mayans. If you think on what is said, watch the video and give some of your time to Bible study, this would make sense. If not, I am not sure I can help you.

The short answer would be to seek God and love others. The point of it all is this path, yet the learning we do between now and then is what we gain from the journey. According to Enoch, as stated in the OP, they are judged. Read the short first chapter of Enoch One. It's all there.

Originally posted by yahushuasaves
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

All of the signs seem to point to March 22,2013 (evening of the 21st begins this day) as the date of the Abomination of Desolation. However your math also lines up quite well it would seem. Great job on the thread. Yet, it would make more sense that the Mayan Calendar is a Satanic ploy by the Adversary to deceive mankind. After all, many signs from all of these topics point to something to do with serpent gods, the sun gods, Watchers, and David Flynn made those very great points about the Mount Hermon connection. Rob Skiba has put this together pretty well also. If anything December 21 2012 is a very possible date for the Watchers to deceive mankind along with the Nephilim. Or it could be just another day. Considering Daniel seems to say that the 10 king order must be formed before Antichrist gets control of the Atlantis type government, and he uproots three horns by the roots, it might be a date too soon for his appearance. Then again we will see. Prophecy can happen in one day as was the case with Isaiah prophesying that the nation would be born at once. Very interesting times we are living in.

Interesting indeed. The David Flynn guy is very interesting. I am watching something from him now. Incredible information.

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But God, in the Old Testament, Genesis version, is a bad guy. IMO THEY are an Alien (THEY created man in THEIR own image after THEIR likeness). Sumerian texts talk about HIGH GODS. Even the restoration being done by The Chronicle Project Team mentions two different types of beings. 'The Supreme ONES'.....who created and terraformed everything and then 'The Ruler of All', their leader.

Isaiah 13, The Lord of Hosts commands an Army of Giants from another planet who will come and rape your children, women and kill your men if you aren't loyal.

Don't get me wrong, I do love you as a person and respect what you are trying to do. But I know THAT God...THOSE Gods. They serve only themselves, and only us when it suits them.

Jesus was sent to save only the Israelites. Only the Book of Revelations gives Christianity the power over all the world. Jesus not once says he is sent here for the world.

If you want me to get to know who the American Indians, Australian Aboriginals and all the ancient tribes who lived in harmony with nature, referred to as 'The Creation' or 'The Dreamtime' then I also know it but it is in no way related to the Hebrew God of the Bible.

Have fun believing the lies of others. The lies written into the Bible to deceive you. Enoch gave us the story, let us know the individuals at fault, but the blame lies wholly on them all because they are all physical, advanced beings.

The Gods, including the Ruler of All, have a plan but in no way is it 'salvation' of Humans who are loyal to them. And they are returning on 21, Dec.

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It is true that people distorted and misrepresent the Bible according to their own pretext. I have no comments for this other than translate what you read by truth. Anyone can search out the truth and compare to the error that is presented. Isaiah 13 is about the Medes and Babylonians. ultimately, this is the end state during the day of the Lord. Just as in the days of Noah, the righteous will be gone from here at that time. We must be here until the event horizon of this time to see the condition before it happens. The wicked are left to see the end of their choice to reject Christ. You must be born again and Christ offers living water in stead of death by the sword. We have the ability to think and move in this life only. The rest is produced by God.

Enoch One, Chapter One

1.1 These are the words of the blessing of Enoch; according to which he
blessed the chosen and righteous who must be present on the day of
distress, which is appointed, for the removal of all the wicked and impious.
1.2 And Enoch began his story and said: -

It's a day of distress. The righteous must be here. When?

The Mayans Marked Their Calendar for Fire Thread 2

Biblical Witnesses and Non-Biblical Witnesses to Dec 21

Isaiah 26

19 But your dead will live, Lord;
their bodies will rise—
let those who dwell in the dust
wake up and shout for joy—
your dew is like the dew of the morning;
the earth will give birth to her dead.
20 Go, my people, enter your rooms
and shut the doors behind you;
hide yourselves for a little while
until his wrath has passed by.

21 See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling
to punish the people of the earth for their sins.
The earth will disclose the blood shed on it;
the earth will conceal its slain no longer.

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Tribulation. That's my long answer.

What is your short answer? Trib?

What would you like to wager that NOTHING out of the ordinary happens on December 21st? I have $100.00 on the table. Would go for more, but Christmas is around the corner.

Secondly, what excuse will you give when nothing you predicted, by using the bible or any other ancient scriptures, happens? Will you continue to predict things and expect people to listen and believe you?

Originally posted by LightAssassin
And they are returning on 21, Dec.

I have $100.00 that says NO they are not.

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Tribulation. That's my long answer.

What is your short answer? Trib?

What would you like to wager that NOTHING out of the ordinary happens on December 21st? I have $100.00 on the table. Would go for more, but Christmas is around the corner.

Secondly, what excuse will you give when nothing you predicted, by using the bible or any other ancient scriptures, happens? Will you continue to predict things and expect people to listen and believe you?

edit on 17-12-2012 by Hydroman because: (no reason given)

It's already happening. So much prophecy is being fulfilled all around us and you seem to miss it all. Here is the most obvious:

1) 2 Peter 3:3

First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.

For me, this is the most obvious one. People all over the world are scoffing at the Bible. Consider these next two:

2) Isaiah 17 - 19: Egypt and Demascus

3) Global Financial Meltdown

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
It's already happening. So much prophecy is being fulfilled all around us and you seem to miss it all. Here is the most obvious:

1) 2 Peter 3:3

First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.

For me, this is the most obvious one. People all over the world are scoffing at the Bible. Consider these next two:

2) Isaiah 17 - 19: Egypt and Demascus

3) Global Financial Meltdown

If it is already happening, then why do you say it will happen on December 21st?