Visions of the future or just something I'm eating??

Here is a thought - very brief post cos I need to get some kip - have you thought that perhaps you could make the intention in the here and now, that when whatever happens happens you will leave a message or sign to explain to yourself what it is - decide where you are going to leave it when the event occurs - then go in your meditation to that place and see if there is anything there.

will come back to read the thread properly tomorrow - this seems fascinating

peace
J

Originally posted by christophersupertramp

I have thought about that but at the moment I was just kind of trying to find out if anyone else was expierancing this as I would hate to get further down the line and god say to me why didn't you tell anyone what I showed you lol

I have pages apron pages of what is happening in my visits and I am constantly looking for evidence of what happened. They seem to have gone back to the middle ages almost. Bow and arrows and blades ect.

I have found that although I can not communicate with the people there, I can manipulate my surroundings for egsample throw stones and move sticks. I even tapped someone on the shoulder and they felt it.

This opens my mind in to thinking maybe this is what we see as ghosts. People from the future or past or even present glancing into our world

These are all just theory's of course.

*this is One thread that I intend to keep coming back for!

I sense that you have seen much much that has yet to be described. and any one of those tiny little details could unlock the whole thing! Ah...but the Rub is: *which* tiny detail is important?!

no electric.
are almost seen by others.
there *are* others.
looks to be some failure of electric on a grand scale.

I suppose if you were a metal specialist, you could see the cars and caravans to figure out how long they have sat there unused. if you saw vehicles just sitting in random patterns all over the place, it reads to me that they all stopped where they were at a *given moment*! and never started again. if they had run out of petrol, the owners would have seen that they would be safely back in the garage or homestead as the tank gets near empty. you mentioned they were scattered along the road, this tells me maybe a solar flare, or such, CME-ruined everything.


poor them! while life might survive, probably the quality of civilization will soon regress much much more backwards! Iron rusts. no way to get supplies. soon bow and arrows and horses again, back to 500 AD!

take a look at the roads. is the pavement cracked and ruined? is there wagon ruts in the dirt roads? are the town streets having horse manure plopped here and there?

ah...google to the rescue!

altimatrix.com...

There is also another more recent discovery that is a kind of bridge between the science of parallel time lines and esoteric arts. Remote Viewing researcher Courtney Brown has discovered a new protocol in remote viewing that is the closest proof that parallel realities exist the I know of. Rather than go on and on about what he has to say, instead I am just going to give you the videos of him giving a presentation about it.

Also if you watch the 2012 Enigma Video that is available in my page called “2012 and Spontaneous Evolution” you will see some more evidence of the existence of parallel time lines. This video is a power point presentation by an individual named David Wilcock. In this presentation he shows what he claims to have info on a real future time line viewing device. They call this device the Looking Glass. It works on the idea that you can access the time field by flipping special water molecules in and out of superposition or from solid to wave state and then use this water like a video time machine. They had some problems with this device when they started trying to view the future close the 2012 date. The problems that they had where to do with multiple different time lines coming through the machine the closer they got to Dec. 2012.

Well, I am one of the few shaman who has actually experienced this parallel time line jumping before. This has happened to me on more than one occasion and it resulted in my perception of reality becoming even more pliable than it already was. It happened spontaneously when I was meditating. When I jumped into the parallel time lines they where just as real substantial as the normal waking reality we experience every day.

I actually experienced this type of shift in reality with out the seamless aspect of it in place way back in 1999. I was in school in Lake City Florida. There was a grocery store near by my apartment that I went in almost on a daily basis. One day I went into that store and the entire inside of it was not the same. The arrangement, the registers , the arrangement of the products, nothing was the same. I had a buddy who worked there and I asked him when they made the total remodel of the store. I was expecting him to say something along the lines of “yesterday”. However, his response was that he looked at me crooked and asked me what the hell I was talking about. So this was an example of jumping into a parallel time line and actually being able to perceive it.

he has a prominent displayed email address and wants people with similar experiences to contact him!
freestone

Freestone thank you for that information and also some great ideas
And yes it seems to have gone back to bow and arrow type hunting gathering.
As to the cars they are defonatly just stopped suddenly. The roads are cracked with weeds ect growing from them some are nearly unrecognisable . Its hard to say how long the cars have been rusting but they are pretty bad, I don't think anyone could ever fix them.in our time type thing I meen.

Me and a friend of mine are currently working on a test that should show some interesting results. I will of course keep you posted.

I have may questions to ask and not enough time to ask them lol

Originally posted by skjalddis
Here is a thought - very brief post cos I need to get some kip - have you thought that perhaps you could make the intention in the here and now, that when whatever happens happens you will leave a message or sign to explain to yourself what it is - decide where you are going to leave it when the event occurs - then go in your meditation to that place and see if there is anything there.

will come back to read the thread properly tomorrow - this seems fascinating

peace
J

Also an exolent idea

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Thank you for posting your experiences Christopher. Your experiences are very interesting please keep us informed of your progress. Good Luck with your investigations! The secret message to yourself seemed like a good idea maybe if you try it you will let us know how it works out for you.

Be safe,

Normajean

Originally posted by christophersupertramp
I'll be completly honest I know nothing about crops, they. Just dont look like trees.

This is quite an interesting question about the crops because it could give us a hint or two about the condition of the people there. I understand that you don't know much about crops but perhaps you could just describe them a little - for example - were they cereals or vegetables or perhaps fruit? Were you looking at what appeared to be a large field filled with just one crop or perhaps a hotchpotch mixture of different things such as you might find in a field of allotments - a place where different families are growing stuff in alloted patches for their own household? You probably know more about crops than you realise - you'll have driven past many a field filled with the unmistakable bright yellow flowers of rapeseed for instance, you would probably have recognised that. Was there anything distinctive about the crops that you saw?

peace
J

Originally posted by skjalddis

Originally posted by christophersupertramp
I'll be completly honest I know nothing about crops, they. Just dont look like trees.

This is quite an interesting question about the crops because it could give us a hint or two about the condition of the people there. I understand that you don't know much about crops but perhaps you could just describe them a little - for example - were they cereals or vegetables or perhaps fruit? Were you looking at what appeared to be a large field filled with just one crop or perhaps a hotchpotch mixture of different things such as you might find in a field of allotments - a place where different families are growing stuff in alloted patches for their own household? You probably know more about crops than you realise - you'll have driven past many a field filled with the unmistakable bright yellow flowers of rapeseed for instance, you would probably have recognised that. Was there anything distinctive about the crops that you saw?

peace

J

They seem to be a mixture of crops.and I am pretty sure that they are grown by the people who live around the village. I have some interesting developments to post on this subject but I will write it soon when I have more time.
The main crop seems to be what looks like corn. But covered up still in its greens type thing

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That is an amazing experiance. I am quite fascinated by this. I would give you star and flag but am new and dont know how to do it! Please tell me someone.
I have meditated to the past, but of course that is easy to find out any information I might need.
Do you think you are going to the same day over and over again?

Some interesting developments this week

So I have tried what many suggested about a message to myself and it failed miserably , the first time I wrote a note and put it in a metal tube just under a rock, when I went to " the other world" there was no rock or tube? So plan two was to bury the tube, actually this time I used a metal ammo box but in the other world I couldn't dig it up, I had to use my hands to dig it and every time it hurt in the slightest or I got tired I came out of my session. 


So this got me thinking and I set to work on a new plan.
My grandfather left me a pocket watch when he sadly passed a long time ago. I carry it with me every day and decided that I would carve a mark on the back of it. I will do this every year until either I die or the end of the world should arrive. If I see what the catastrophe is then I will attach the watch to a tree near where I meditate with a brief description of what it is carved to the inside of the watch and of course I will have the years in marks on the back. If I should fall Ill the watch will be passed to my son who is currently six and he will scratch the back for me until I should die, then he will place the watch on the tree. I have asked for this in my will Incase any of them forget.

Astonishingly it worked and in my session there the watch was with 43 marks on the back. Oh my god I die in 2055 ....... But still no catastrophe according to the watch. The funny thing is there are lots of watches on the tree in the other world , as in hundreds. It is almost like a shrine. the watch looked really  old so I'm confident whatever time I am seeing is long after I am dead. 

Have I changed the future or "a" future? Can one change the future?

RIP Christopher Supertramp 1982- 2055 

P.S. can not explain the feeling I had when I gazed upon the watch.

Send your old watches and I'll hang them on the time tree lol

Originally posted by LILY9
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That is an amazing experiance. I am quite fascinated by this. I would give you star and flag but am new and dont know how to do it! Please tell me someone.
I have meditated to the past, but of course that is easy to find out any information I might need.
Do you think you are going to the same day over and over again?

No I have discovered it is not the same day. I'm unsure if it is day after day type thing though. I plan to attempt to make contact with some one in the other world very soon, it's just hard to find the time to do all this as I work everyday and have two young children. I,m trying not to let this consume my life though I'm not sure if I should be working on this even harder in the hope that I can crack what is going on

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Why don't you place a coin in the ground every year below your watch also, with the coin having the year/date that you placed the coin in the ground. Then you can scratch around in that area and find some coins from the future, and put them here on ATS.

If you were able to recover coins from the future, you would be extremely rich. Just remember, certain coins corrode quickly, while others corrode very little. So... your best bet would be to secretly bury a silver coin of some type every year in the future, so that you could go into the future and dig up a perfect coin that hasn't corroded.

Bringing back coins with dates in the 2020's, 2030's, 2040's and 2050's would be worth a fortune.

Unfortunately, others will have read this post, and if they know where your playground is at, they will have dug up your coins. So... you need to bury those coins in another spot that only you know of that you can go to every time. When you bury them, bury them so they are standing on their side, because its much harder for a metal detector to find your coins then.

Use your shoe length to pace off the distance from a specific tree or marker and then bury them there, maybe the 2012 coin would be 12 steps from the tree, and the 2013 coin would be 13 steps from the tree and so on until your out to 2055 or 55 feet from the tree. Just make sure your pacing out towards another marker or tree to make future recovery easy for yourself.

Each coin from the future should be worth a minimum of $30,000 to $50,000 I would believe.

It reminds me of c2c when a man found a hole that was bottomless. He somehow stated he got coins from the future and that there were different US presidents on them and that he was offered money like stated above for them.

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you should make a dimensional reference point..... basically something unique and obscure that only you know about and see if it appears in your meditative world.

for instance since there are real world places that appear in your meditation, place something like a rock wedged between two branches of a tree along your path and then when you're in your dream see if that specific tree has grown and if the rock has been encapsulated by the growth. or hammer a group of nails in a tree stump and check to see of they've rusted away in your dream.

I do think BTW that you had a tremendous lucid dream. But it's actually fun to see stuff you put in the real world appearing in your dream world.

Originally posted by RussianScientists
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Why don't you place a coin in the ground every year below your watch also, with the coin having the year/date that you placed the coin in the ground. Then you can scratch around in that area and find some coins from the future, and put them here on ATS.

If you were able to recover coins from the future, you would be extremely rich. Just remember, certain coins corrode quickly, while others corrode very little. So... your best bet would be to secretly bury a silver coin of some type every year in the future, so that you could go into the future and dig up a perfect coin that hasn't corroded.

Bringing back coins with dates in the 2020's, 2030's, 2040's and 2050's would be worth a fortune.

Unfortunately, others will have read this post, and if they know where your playground is at, they will have dug up your coins. So... you need to bury those coins in another spot that only you know of that you can go to every time. When you bury them, bury them so they are standing on their side, because its much harder for a metal detector to find your coins then.

Use your shoe length to pace off the distance from a specific tree or marker and then bury them there, maybe the 2012 coin would be 12 steps from the tree, and the 2013 coin would be 13 steps from the tree and so on until your out to 2055 or 55 feet from the tree. Just make sure your pacing out towards another marker or tree to make future recovery easy for yourself.

Each coin from the future should be worth a minimum of $30,000 to $50,000 I would believe.

It reminds me of c2c when a man found a hole that was bottomless. He somehow stated he got coins from the future and that there were different US presidents on them and that he was offered money like stated above for them.

That would be fantastic.unfortunatly I have tried to bring back several items but as I'm slipping out of the section they simply pull away from me as if they are not aloud

Originally posted by balanc3
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you should make a dimensional reference point..... basically something unique and obscure that only you know about and see if it appears in your meditative world.

for instance since there are real world places that appear in your meditation, place something like a rock wedged between two branches of a tree along your path and then when you're in your dream see if that specific tree has grown and if the rock has been encapsulated by the growth. or hammer a group of nails in a tree stump and check to see of they've rusted away in your dream.

I do think BTW that you had a tremendous lucid dream. But it's actually fun to see stuff you put in the real world appearing in your dream world.

I think that is a good idea. Do you have expierance with lucid dreaming? I'd love to learn more. I'm deported to find out if it is a dream world as if it was I could make it a lot better if you know what I mean

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Excellent that you had a result and thankyou for trying out my suggestion

Whilst not finding a description of any civilisation-ending disaster doesn't mean there won't be any, it does suggest that the state in which society *appears to be* in your visions is arrived at a little more subtely. A slow decline, perhaps - exacerbated by one or more disasters elsewhere in the world which, whilst not impinging directly on the area in which you live, will probably have had far reaching knock-on effects. If that is so, then I believe that we may already be seeing the beginnings of that decline in the very present - and I wonder if that is maybe why you have been given the visions at this time - as a forewarning to prepare ourselves for the gradual falling away of much that we have become used to.

This is all most interesting, please keep posting as you find out more.

peace
J

Originally posted by skjalddis
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Excellent that you had a result and thankyou for trying out my suggestion

Whilst not finding a description of any civilisation-ending disaster doesn't mean there won't be any, it does suggest that the state in which society *appears to be* in your visions is arrived at a little more subtely. A slow decline, perhaps - exacerbated by one or more disasters elsewhere in the world which, whilst not impinging directly on the area in which you live, will probably have had far reaching knock-on effects. If that is so, then I believe that we may already be seeing the beginnings of that decline in the very present - and I wonder if that is maybe why you have been given the visions at this time - as a forewarning to prepare ourselves for the gradual falling away of much that we have become used to.

This is all most interesting, please keep posting as you find out more.

peace
J

I would have to agree, I think personally that what ever has happened has not effected these people directly. I think the cars on the roads have been placed there maybe as a blockade or similar effect. There seems to be what I would describe as a tribe that libe just near where I enter, they speak a strange Scottish ascent the likes of wich is not common here now. They have no clothes from our time, no shoes ect only leathers and furs.

The guy I like to think of as the main chief has a metal aeroplane toy as a necklace . He also has animal teeth jewellery and leads a small group of them in prayers. I don't think they pray to god or Jesus. They seem to worship the light and sky ect. they sing songs as well.

Here are a few.strangly enough some of them I have heard of and others I haven't .

Please identify the ones with no names if you know them.

Amung the fields of gold- sting I think

Here I am, I've given you everything, here I am... Here I ammmm ??

If your leaving take me with you, don't leave me behind, don't say I'll find another, another you I'll never find
So don't you cry my darling, don't think I'm gona hide, just put your hand in my heart and I'll see you on the other side???

Ask me where the winds gone, ask me bout the trees, ask me where the leaves are. Lost in summer breaze ??

Whatever will be will be.. Can't remember the name of that but I know I've heard that one.

They sing songs regularly and can be heard as I am traveling around the woods.

Please help identify the songs

If the songs have been passed down by word of mouth into the future then they may have changed somewhat over time.

The 'whatever will be, will be' - would that be 'Que sera sera'? Another one - the 'Here I am' one, reminds me of 'Song to the Siren' but the words aren't quite the same so probably not that one -



peace
J

Alright, I understand now: (1) you can't bring other world matter back, and (2) your too ghostly to interact against matter that is more solid than you are in the other world; which seems logical.

What is the newest make and model of vehicle that you've seen? Somewhere you should be able to find a date written on something.

How about going to the cemetary and seeing what the newest date on a gravestone is. Unfortunately, you might see your own headstone with a date on it, or something even worse. It might be a bad idea to visit the local graveyard, but a fresh grave could pinpoint the date.

this is getting more Interesting by the day!

lets see now....
to me it looks to be a "slow death of civilization". similar to the roman empire after Rome's center fell. The trade ceased, little iron now to the Forgers, no goods from overseas.

Already I see some people have gone "tribal". what i suspect here is that you are sort of seeing a "movie still" within a long process. what will happen to the villagers when all the iron rusts? there might be no trade whatsoever. fat for lamp oil. horses to pull the wooden stone tipped plow. no more schools for the kids.
read: "back to 500 AD with maybe a few monasteries to keep books. in 1000 years, English written language will be like Latin, today. the common people will not read or write.

so the Huge Questions remain.
--what caused this?
--is this reality in *our* future?! Is it in another timeline?

a slow unwinding, maybe caused by a CME or of multiple volcanoes going off all at once or even a nuclear winter.volcanic winter, that only lasts ten years.

those crops! i can see now how that they could look "ragged". there is now no more mechanical
tractors or harvestors. all is done by hand now. the rows will be crooked, *if* there are even rows planted.

2055 and has not happened yet. good. I am 71, i will not see this.

maybe you are tapping into a future lifetime!

"Integrated systems". the death of civilization if these fall! take even a simple flashlight.
the batteries are made in china from materials imported from Malaysia. the lightbulb comes from Japan. the canister comes from south Korea. Some of this "simple" flashlight is made elsewheres. what happens if trade ceases and there are no factories within walking distance of your home?! you will "cannibalize" stuff around you until all *that* material is gone, no more bulbs on the shelf, all the batteries used up, then what?

eventually you will live in a log built house made from axe-hewn trees and buckets made of wood for fetching water from a spring, a 400 foot walk. plates and forks will soon even be gone unless
someone learns pottery skills! fabric for clothes? not in that climate. back to furs and hides. by the time some people get technology, maybe 1500 years later, much of the wisdom contained in the left over junk, will have rotted and rusted away.

this is a given.

but what if all of what is seen is on another time line? IS there such a thing as "other time lines"?!

freestone

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I found out how to star and flag, thank you russian man.
I was wondering chris if you were planning to try to contact your children in this other world?
Does their seem to be any form of communication, like phones or radio?
I hope you keep posting for us.