Kentucky Fried Cruelty

Originally posted by iceofspades
I must point out that your arguments are flawed. In countries such as Vietnam, dogs are eaten as if they are chickens in our country. It's a society issue that chickens are viewed as food and dogs are viewed as pets.

And i am totaly against eating cats or dogs as food. i think common sense tells us that.common sense also tells us that chickens are food.

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My chicken was pretty smart, she met me at the door when I got up in the mornings and stayed with me until she went to roost at night. Would I say she was as smart as the average dog, yes she was. She nearly froze to death one winter, my Dad brought her in comatose and put her in a box in the den. When she woke up I was petting her, at first she was terrified but after an hour or so we were best friends, when we put her back out with our other chickens I figured she would forget about me but she did not. I understand what you are saying but chickens are treated differently from pets so theyfore they act differently, they are more aloof toward humans.

Originally posted by goose
My chicken was pretty smart, she met me at the door when I got up in the mornings and stayed with me until she went to roost at night. Would I say she was as smart as the average dog, yes she was. She nearly froze to death one winter, my Dad brought her in comatose and put her in a box in the den. When she woke up I was petting her, at first she was terrified but after an hour or so we were best friends, when we put her back out with our other chickens I figured she would forget about me but she did not. I understand what you are saying but chickens are treated differently from pets so theyfore they act differently, they are more aloof toward humans.

You shouldnt play with your food.

Originally posted by Samhain
And i am totaly against eating cats or dogs as food. i think common sense tells us that.common sense also tells us that chickens are food.

You are saying that people of other countries that do eat dogs and cats have no common sense.

That surely is insulting a lot of people.

Misfit

Originally posted by Misfit

Originally posted by Samhain
And i am totaly against eating cats or dogs as food. i think common sense tells us that.common sense also tells us that chickens are food.

You are saying that people of other countries that do eat dogs and cats have no common sense.

That surely is insulting a lot of people.

Misfit

No,i am saying that people in other countrys that eat dogs and cats are wrong.and thats why it we have laws against animal cruelty.i think we are clouding the issue.

People in other countries have a whole different culture and they grow up eating dogs and cats just like we grow up eating chicken, they see them as a food siurce and think that is ok, you know here is the weird thing I had a pet chicken once but still eat chicken.

Originally posted by goose
People in other countries have a whole different culture and they grow up eating dogs and cats just like we grow up eating chicken, they see them as a food siurce and think that is ok, you know here is the weird thing I had a pet chicken once but still eat chicken.

There ya go.
Chickens!!Decent pets and go good with mashed potatoes!!!

Originally posted by Samhain
No,i am saying that people in other countrys that eat dogs and cats are wrong.and thats why it we have laws against animal cruelty.i think we are clouding the issue.

How can you say an entire country(ies) is wrong for what THEIR culture does?

That is compared to saying - use of Peyote by modern American culture is wrong, but within the Native Americn society it is ritual and their culture; it is accepted by American standards of the NA culture.
Are they wrong because it does not fit your views of what is right?

ON a side note of complete curiosity - why do you call yourself Samhain?

Misfit

[edit on 23-10-2004 by Misfit]

Originally posted by Misfit

Originally posted by Samhain
No,i am saying that people in other countrys that eat dogs and cats are wrong.and thats why it we have laws against animal cruelty.i think we are clouding the issue.

How can you say an entire country(ies) is wrong for what THEIR culture does?

That is compared to saying - use of Peyote by modern American culture is wrong, but within the Native Americn society it is ritual and their culture; it is accepted by American standards of the NA culture.
Are they wrong because it does not fit your views of what is right?

ON a side note of complete curiosity - why do you call yourself Samhain?

Misfit

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if the vietnamese ate people would it be wrong if they considered it ok??
i call my self Samhain for prob the same reason you call yourself misfit.casue those bands rocked!!!


[edit on 23-10-2004 by Samhain]

Cannibals of deep jungles eat people.
I do not consider it wrong for THEM !!!
You are saying it is wrong for Vietnamese to do what they do/have always done.
It is that culture that do what they do, be it right/wrong for us.
It's simply not our call, we are not that culture.

I'm not Misfit due to a band.
I'm Misfit because I am.

Misfit

Photo of proof chickens keep most of the beak if not all (NOT GRAPHIC)

Check out number two.At least McDonalds look after there chickens.
Try going through the rest not related to this thread but some stuff has been on ATS.

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Originally posted by Misfit
Cannibals of deep jungles eat people.
I do not consider it wrong for THEM !!!
You are saying it is wrong for Vietnamese to do what they do/have always done.
It is that culture that do what they do, be it right/wrong for us.
It's simply not our call, we are not that culture.

I'm not Misfit due to a band.
I'm Misfit because I am.

Misfit

yea,well,its wrong anyway you slice it isnt it?eating people is wrong,i think this goes with out saying.whether your a some jungle meathead or some self important wannabe.
you maybe a misfit,but you have more than borrowed from the entire misfits (the band) theme,all the way from your ghoulish mood to your name to your avatar.anyway......how did we go from eating chickens to eating people????LOL

Sorry for all the edits link is now working

Originally posted by Samhain

yea,well,its wrong anyway you slice it isnt it?eating people is wrong,i think this goes with out saying.whether your a some jungle meathead or some self important wannabe.

Your view is obvious: everything that is not right to 'you' - is wrong.
I do believe that is about as self-righteous as one can get.

My mood is far from ghoulish - my mood is that I respect another cultures' way of life.

Misfit

Originally posted by Samhain
There ya go.
Chickens!!Decent pets and go good with mashed potatoes!!!

Don't forget the gravy and biscuits, thats also a must for a good chicken dinner.

I agree with goose.....

Chickens are Smart!!

I have hung out with my chickens and each has a different personality. One time a little hen was clucking and limping, across the yard. She must of got one of her little toe nails caught on a rock or something. Pulled the whole nail right off! I picked her up and cleaned off the bloody toe and applied a topical antibotic. Within a few day she was back to normal. Chickens also feel pain. Several times some of the hens 'CLUCKED OUT' really loud when they would lay an extra large egg!

Also in this area we have a lot of snakes. Before the chickens were here it wasn't unusual for a Mohave Green Rattler to come onto the property. That snake is one bad Ass snake! If it bites you your lungs shut down within minutes and you die. Unless you have someone near by who can do CPR until you get to the nearest hospital 75 miles away for the anti-venom. Chickens deter snakes! So therefore are useful for saving human lives! Did I also mention the black widows they eat?

Most of my hens were good mothers too. Better than some humans. They constantly watched over their chicks. One time a baby chick fell into the drinking water. The mama hen clucked...and clucked....flapping her wings just to get my attention. I got the little guy out and dried him off. There was no doubt, in my mind that the mother hen felt pain and fear for her youngester!

Originally posted by Misfit

Originally posted by Samhain
And i am totaly against eating cats or dogs as food. i think common sense tells us that.common sense also tells us that chickens are food.

You are saying that people of other countries that do eat dogs and cats have no common sense.

That surely is insulting a lot of people.

Misfit

No, it's not insulting it's just reality. Nor is it a matter of common sense. It's a cultural evolution that dogs are not eaten while chickens are. It has nothing to do with intelligence, but barrels down to a philosophical issue of what deserves to live and what does not.

This scathing piece of social commentary is just here to point out some "facts". Please do view it, but do so knowing that it is done in satire, a parody of KFC, if you will.

X


The truth

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Originally posted by goose

Originally posted by Samhain
There ya go.
Chickens!!Decent pets and go good with mashed potatoes!!!

Don't forget the gravy and biscuits, thats also a must for a good chicken dinner.

YUMMY!!!!

The fast food is quite different in different countries. E.G: the McDonald's food is different in Europe than in Japan. Also, the canned drinks are different, too. The Coke tastes different, the Fanta, the Sprite.

So we cannot generalize like that.