What are the world Governments getting ready for. I have the field narrowed down!

Japan kicked off its post war reconstruction about 1957. Sony developed the western transistor technology into the very successful consumer electronic industry through the 80's.

China and India followed suit later as foreign investors built factories and set up telecommunication industries in countries with lower labor costs.

It seems logical countries like China would invest in places like Africa for the lower cost resources. Could be limited to the retirement/health care industry. Cost of living may be much higher in China


I noticed this morning VSNL net is down overseas in India. Maybe a test of the internet kill switch?

www.websitedown.info...

Is there really anything we can do if they suddenly decide to make the net gluten free?

Well I liked the OP and think there could be truth to it.

Now I only read a few pages of this thread, so if it's already been said then carry on.. but.

How about a pandemic? It's going to happen soon, and if it does it'll be crazy with 7b folks. Bunkers would be a great place to isolate the healthy, or hold the sick.

I'm going to have to disagree in part regarding relying on government and the motive people think as to why that's happening.

Look at it, people are relying on more and more on govt. services because of the gap between rich and poor, what some like to refer to as the gini coefficient. It's widening. There is, to me, no conspiracy with keeping people reliant on the govt. It is a byproduct of poor policy. It is a byproduct of corporatism and their influence on policy makers. It is not unique to the US obviously. Now when someone tries to lower the gap between rich and poor (which is in part, part of a governments mandate), at least in the US they get labelled a socialist and all the negative things that go with that label. But we must realise what lowering the gap entails. Making policy that shifts cash from the rich to the poor. To do that, a government has progressively tax and distribute via benefits, means testing, they can increase social services, they can attempt to provide a basic level of health services to the less well off, as that drains cash, leaving folks with no option other than to rely. They are the quick fixes. The slow fix is to tackle income inequality.

So I digress in that respect. It is not a conspiracy, but an effect. I very much agree with the idea that people are less able to look after themselves. But the reason people are more reliant now makes perfect sense.

So back to the actually interesting stuff (what I wrote above will draw a few yawns I'm sure)...

carry on

OK i'm a new member so i cannot post a new thread,
I've been watching Ancient Aliens but even if they have some stuff right, the ET explanation didn't answer everything...

however, i found this video VERY interesting:

www.youtube.com...

This explains everything, earth's ancient civilisation real story, the ancient structures message and what is the signification of the different calendars...

It is french, but the images at the end are self explanatory for those who cannot speak it.

to spoil you, the meaning is that every major sites (gizeh, mayas, paques islands...) are all aligned on a 100KM band worldwide, the goemetry of these sites point to their ancient magnetic pole, gizeh sites form a gigantic stellar calendar which coincedes with the mayas one.

i really recommend that you watch, translate it...

if you don't have time, start watching @ 1:28:00, else watch the whole doc, this is the best ever!!

Unless I missed something, the only established fact this whole loose theory is based upon is the fact that The OP saw a picture of a chinese city in Africa and had his "pattern machanism" kick in.

There is a banal reason why these cities were built, it has got to do with economic growth rates and guess what - PROFIT.

The moment you said the chinese are not after profit you outed yourself as having no clue about anything regarding the Chinese culture. In fact profit and wealth are two of the most important pillars of Chinese society.

So all in all .. not a thought out thread and not conclusive in any way, as was to my surprise pointed out by other posters.

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This illogical nonsense has now been submitted to CTSTDT.

I fail to see any pattern here whatsoever. The Chinese are in Africa for raw materials and minerals, and the ghost cities back home are the product of a country which grew too fast economically and then got hit in 2008 like every other nation, hence people can't afford to move there.

Anybody could pick out a few negative news stories and predict a doomsday scenario

Great presentation and conclusions - S & F!

Preppers (which I could hardly be considered on, with my poultry stores and skills) should not be looked at so foolishly, after all. They are just doing, on their own, what they can without the same Re$ource$ that the government and extremely wealthy have already been proven to also be doing.

At some point people need to ask themselves, though... do you really want to be around for the aftermath? Who knows.

First, let me say, this is an amazing and well thought out thread.

I have read every post so far (went to bed around 5am so I could finish) and I am impressed with all of the valuable input from posters.

When I think of a possible SHTF scenario, I personally don't see one event, I see a domino effect. There have been many movies mentioned throughout this thread (2012, Day after Tomorrow, etc), what I see is more of a "Revolution" type scenario that starts it. (TV show, look it up). Lights go out, people panic, death , destruction, disease and chaos. It eventually evens itself out to a point, people try to rebuild in small communities all the while dealing with whatever Mother Nature decides to throw at us at that point. We are a resiliant species, we will survive, it may not be pretty but we will go on.

Just my 2 cents, oh wait, they are getting rid of the penny....

As a programmer, I'm just chiming in here..

Pattern recognition is useful but it's very much dependent on the dataset that is used.. and the biggest problem with situations like this one is that the dataset was selected by the person analyzing it, .. the result could therefore be influenced by the person selecting the data.. it's not all encompassing, it really couldn't be .. so as interesting as it might be.. it should still be taken with a grain of salt because ultimately it's still opinion based and subjective.

A good example would be.. say, someone who wanted to believe in aliens.. they would most likely collect data that was interesting to them and supported their hypothesis .. the result would lean heavily towards their predisposition ..

Originally posted by Ginga
I fail to see any pattern here whatsoever. The Chinese are in Africa for raw materials and minerals, and the ghost cities back home are the product of a country which grew too fast economically and then got hit in 2008 like every other nation, hence people can't afford to move there.

Anybody could pick out a few negative news stories and predict a doomsday scenario

You're right...

The ghost cities were actually built to help prop up an artificial economy and they are going to most likely pay the price for it in the end.. China has been building these cities like crazy.. for years now.. There's already been documentaries about them.. it helped keep people employed to construct them and therefore kept their economy booming but without someone to move into those vacant places, they've set themselves up for a huge bust...

China is also very very much interested in rare earth elements and other such resources.. they maintain the monopoly on those things and very much want to keep it that way.. those rare earth elements are what power technology.. and technology that uses those elements make up the largest market in history... there's no mystery or pattern there, just simple logic.

So far its come across as a well thought out post and have to say its been an interesting read. Just marking for later as i do not have the time right now.


S&F op well done

Indisputable

the chinese ghost cities are not about doomsday ...they were build because the sick economocial system needs growth where there is no need for it!!

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I think we all realize that something is coming but what or when this will occur is anyones guess! No matter how much research we may do, we will never find out what and when the SHTF! For those expecting to see any big changes before this event unfolds I will say "don't count on it". My biggest fear is not that I will die when this happens but that I will survive after it does! I can't say I wont run away when this does come to be because noone really knows what they will do until the day of this event! I hope that whatever does happen, happens quickly and without warning! For those that do manage to survive into the next age. I can only say to you "God help you"!

I have it narrowed down to three.

How many people are writing what you are posting?

That is all.

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Just as you say there's powers behind, but theirs more hidden in the open that people cant see: The american government are now admitting to h.a.a.r.p but why?, anybody noted the sun getting hotter ! the chem trails are blocking out harmful sun rays !! woopee doo !!! they now say that they used h.a.a.r.p to block Niribu from causing havock, this may account for so much earth displacement, on which point if the earth has a sudden jolt of 42 degrees then the earth will spin over and start spinning anti clockwise the sea on the other hand wont causing mass flooding, this aint the problem here though?. nobodys thought about altering the mechanics of the universe. they also joke about Obama being Satan? just look into Crowleys works, I had a pack of the book of thoth for 3 nights 20 years ago and still remember the nightmares, very powerfull. Obama has continuously ridiculed Jesus from day 1, coming to power on a donkey question is how was he conceived?

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2008 was created check out thread on richard branson

I'm 65 so whatever happens really is going to send me to the grave only slightly quicker.

One of the things I've been concerned about is the population. Indeed I worried about it when I was a teen. So if there is a humane way to reduce the population down to 500 million, I'm all for it. Once that is achieved, and kept, then we can safely live on this earth like humans instead of locusts.

For those with even a small amount of yard space, learn about "Aquaponics" and begin to build yourself a setup that will feed your family and a few friends or neighbors. By including neighbors you will instantly have a few people who will do their best to protect your system. Late in the fall I purchased a 17' x 96' high tunnel greenhouse which will be erected in the spring. In the mean time I'm purchasing the items necessary to complete the project once the structure is erected. Of course stock up on "heritage" varieties of vegetable seeds. Buy them from sellers who only sell Heritage seeds. You don't want GMO seeds.

Another item is to plant lots of fruit and seed trees. If you already have some, make sure they are properly pruned so that they will produce a bountiful crop.

If you own your own home, put as large a water storage container in the attic as can fit and be safe to the structure. Draw your water from that and put in an auto fill valve. That way the water is always fresh. By having an attic unit, water can be quick added when power is available. For those with a natural spring and a spring house, install a "Hydraulic ram pump". That will ensure a constant flow of water without a power source or powered pumps.

If you have a septic tank, be sure it is kept clean because when the SHTF, the honey dumper might not be available to clean it out. Most systems can go no more than 4 years between cleanings.

Gold is nice but silver is better. Silver can be kept in small enough amounts that one can use to purchase items most needed. An ounce of gold is currently about $1700. Bring that to the grocery and you better have a large trailer to haul all that food home. An ounce of silver, currently about $32 will buy groceries for perhaps a week depending on family size.

Have a propane setup for cooking, refrigeration and heating, even if it is a backup. Also have a stove that will burn wood. Lots of people have access to dead branches and other wood, but if you are in the city, then have some coal on hand for heat and cooking. While natural gas flows, things might not be a problem, but if the infrastructure falls apart, natural gas will stop flowing.

Interesting theory with good information. However we need to consider the ever unpopular possibility that people are simply hedging their bets as a whole, or doing things for less extreme, but equally nefarious, purposes.

The big thing I consider, with China's "ghost" cities, is that this one in Africa isn't their first. They've done several throughout mainland China in recent years. Why? Well, there's some simple economic factors to consider, including showing GDP growth, Source or just planning for future growth.

There is also the possibility that they are doing this simply because Africa is, as many have observed, unwatched by the greater public. It's a land with a fair number of resources, but also just raw land - however poor or undeveloped. No centralized government, no single large military or other armed force to protect it. Build a giant city or two, move people in, and no one there can really do anything about it. A simple land grab, the fast production of a city, priced out of reach by any locals. When the time comes, you move in and say "Oh well we're already here so....tough."

Underground bunkers? They've been around for a long time, it's a good precaution. The increased production in them? Could be explainable simply because the older ones are simply that: old.

Hell, even the more wealthy or afluent families purchasing land and such in the southern hemisphere may not be because "they know" but because "they hear" like us, and have the wealth to buy other land "just in case."

I know this isn't going to be a popular viewpoint, but the great challenge in separting yourself from the sheep is in considering all the possibilities and seeing past the BS.

Clearly I believe there are greater things happening in the world, for better or worse, otherwise why would I be here, but likewise not every pattern is due to a nefarious scheme - it could instead be due to other things...like the generally nefarious behavior of the human race

Either way an excellent post. While I have my own, less dystopian, suspicions, rest assured I will continue to read your work as it develops and continue to evolve my position, ever vigilant, just as you are.

Originally posted by ~widowmaker~
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Then try find them with a metal detector. It is likely the entrances have been filled in.


Mm the ones we followed didn't lead us out into the woods, it led us to a large building with a gate but the building looked inactive/old but sketchy. It didn't look military by any means some kind factory looking type but grass was coming up from the concrete and pavement area so. I did not notice anything around area with any kind of marking and no faded signs on anything or nothing on building. We were going to just jump it and check it out but a guy drove buy us and about 2 small intersections away from us down the road maybe 50-80 feet, just stopped and didn't turn or do anything and Ben was like dude that's f'd up lets just leave. Didn't take much to convince me.

One thing to note this was down mostly near Newport ,RI and out skirts when I was in school and there is a navy base/sub and military installation all over, some out in the open like navy base, some not. So I wonder if yellow is civic, and blue is like navy /gov? Either way I can't find them. Library sounds like a good idea though. Never really pursued it much after school.

wow thats cloak and dagger... maybe you were on to something lol or maybe that guy was thinking You were up to something lol