What are the world Governments getting ready for. I have the field narrowed down!

If it's climate change and the earth is cooling wouldn't co2 levels be going down since ocean water evaporates slower at a cooler temp? Wouldn't the ice be melting slower now rather than speeding up?

I think the axis of the earth is changing and will have a sudden jerk into new location as the forces get stronger. The new Arctic circle will run from North Dakota to South Carolina. The entire north east will be arctic.

Originally posted by pheonix358
reply to post by Golf66

 

What you are looking for is on page 1 of that thread. To save you some trouble I picked this out of page 4. It summarizes some parts of the thread

Ok, while I don't agree that they will be excluded I see the information you are talking about now. You could have just linked that for clarity instead of a passive aggressive insult to my laziness.

Sorry, I am not reading 4 pages into a reference or linked thread linked before commenting on this one that was titled "what are the world's governments planning..."

I think my comments are relevant and I don't buy for an instant that the elite politicians and such will be excluded from any "ark" or underground shelters being built by the world's "governments". You are free to believe that if you wish.

They will have thier own spaces and in addition to their own they will fill others with their fat old friends, cronies and families - period.

I agree that they may indeed make some places/provisions for "workers/soldiers" and such but not to the exclusion of their own sycophants and families. Sorry, I don't believe they will do that even if it is in their best interest. That is giving them too much credit.

Who needs a 50 year old politician to survive a nuclear war? What is he going to do other than consume resources? He is a lawyer ffs...what are we going to need lawyers for?

However, there are billions of dollars worth of facilities, people and equipment designed and in place today (right this very moment) to save that one man in just such an event - the POTUS.

Further, there are billions of dollars in other places to save the 435 other elected Representatives and Senators along with their families and key staff...

They will get their spaces make no mistake.

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The data on Antarctica ice has similar flaws in data. It is melting!
The amount of conflicting data on the internet is staggering. In order to hide the truth, disinformation is a great weapon. Arguments on ATS on who is right is largely due to disinformation and conflicting sources. How can we as non sheeple ever get at the truth with so many conflicts. Some information from Government sources or even the UN is just plain wrong. In Spike's thread referenced above two members could not even get a figure on the population of a country. There was a ten fold discrepancy! On different pages this discrepancy appeared on UN sites








I love this thread! So intriguing! On melting ice...I just read this today in my newspaper...Weather agency warns of 'alarming rate' of Arctic ice melt, dramatic climate change As to your opinion on "the amount of conflicting data on the internet...I've used this quote before, and I'll use it again..." If you can't convince 'em, confuse 'em." Harry Truman

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Originally posted by PrplHrt
reply to post by SheopleNation
I think you can relax. I don't think Obama is SO bad he'll pry your BB gun from your cold, dead fingers.

No idea where that came from. Clearly an off topic post. However, do you have an opinion on if the world governments are getting ready for anything, after all that is the subject of this thread? ~$heopleNation

A bit of a waste of time when we all know bird flu and swine flu from China will combine in China and run through the population there first. That reminds me, a surgical mask for christmas will be a very useful present.

A bit of a waste of time when we all know bird flu and swine flu from China will combine in China and run through the population there first. That reminds me, a surgical mask for christmas will be a very useful present.

OooOoo, great thread!! Lots of very interesting responses, and I do believe I saw mention of FEMA in a reply, though I forget which page it was on..

Does it strike anyone else awkwardly to see the FEMA refurbished camps that're popping up all over the US with the barbed-wire facing IN? I mean, you'd think to protect people they'd have it facing out rather than in containment-form of facing in.. Although they could just be for all the folk that the NDAA deems dangerous.. dun dun dun!

Cheers to a great conversation topic!

You might want to think about all this. I don't know if I would want to live in a bunker for the rest of my life with little or no food and water. I think I would rather just live my life to it's potential and have no worries. Give me a bud light and call it a day. Sorry to burst your bubbles. But why worry everyday when anything could happen at any time anyhow.

reply to post by SheopleNation

I was referring to your disclaimer at the end of your post.

Never mind.

Originally posted by hellbjorn012

Originally posted by Ben81


one thing that is for sure for 2012 .. it will be the end of an era
and the start of a new one and it will be like a breath of fresh air
all the fearmongering threads are there to confuse the mind of the mass
no end of the world in sight but the birth of a new world .. a new beginning
a new civilization

Nah look at this thread people are already gearing up for when the biggest end of the world date in modern history fails they will have another date. Its never ending here on DOOMNGLOOMATS.COM

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I'm not gearing up for any certain date. I think it's responsible anyway, to stock food and water. I will not be that woman on the corner asking the govt, when they are coming to help me.

Originally posted by PrplHrt
reply to post by SheopleNation

 

I was referring to your disclaimer at the end of your post.

Never mind.

Yeah, I am sure.

If you actually read it, then you would know that I said that I don't own a bee bee gun, but then again that was never the subject of this thread now was it?

No big deal, we all make mistakes. With that being said, any opinion on the subject on hand? ~$heopleNation

My big tip off was the seed bank. ^^
and numerous D.U.M.B bases being shown here and there secretly out in the public. If they were really secret they wouldn't let the contractors show pictures of their work. Its secret enough so they can get some rich people to see them same pictures and inquire about them to someone who is in the know and to pony up for million-billion dollar family spots in them. At least that's my hunch ^9

what I find very interesting about shelters, 50 60 70 years ago, they trained the public to know where these things were. At least that's the feel I get from the old movies and hand books and stuff I have read or been taught in school plus history channel PBS ect ect, IM a dork I love just learning crap. ^^ they showed you where they were, how you were to proceed calmly when the sirens went off. IM 34 years old now and not one single time have I ever heard the words, bomb shelter(which mind you IM kinda grateful and kinda scared at same time). From any school, older person, government body NO ONE.

Yet IM one of those types that explores anything so I usually look for the tiny rusted signs that are still left all over the area I live, most semi hidden and wonder, are they still there. Also what constituted as a bomb shelter back then some were just large basement, IM talking about the REAL bomb shelters and how is that going to work in this day and age when people can't even hold a freakin door open for you or say thank you when you do it for them like they deserved it or something.

I mean is there something or somewhere to go to get access or at least learn about civilian bomb shelters in the USA? I've tried all kinds of searches but they usually end up at private options. I know you can build them/have constructed for you. I know you can get an old missile silo or and decommissioned under ground military facility for as low as 250k(at auction) in some parts of the country and around the world if you are in the billion dollar club old submarine bases and what not. You can even build backyard type, what good that would do I don't know lol. And living in an old decommissioned military anything seems sketchy because wouldn't that mean who ever is attacking us is probably going off old info (old google maps lol ) which means its your new home? haha that would suck lol. haha I feel so safe and I have 3 football fields of house underground, then all of a sudden your house starts screaming defcon 8 or something with red light going off and what not lol. ^^

I think in the end only man made problems we will be able to save ourselves from such as a ww3 or even famine , we know how to generate light underground we could grow quite a lot of different foods with hydroponics, generators, solar panels and IM sure underground you would have access to most underground lakes/ river systems/steam vents allowing for clean water and more uses of electricity. So even if we had some kind of polar ice age long or short or had giant solar flare, we are like cockroaches we will survive lol. So long as we know anything about it at least even a weeks notice.

The thing that will screw us the most will be the universe its self. Polar shift, comet, asteroid, dwarf anything nibiru or not lol, moon getting destroyed, star going super nova some where close, hell maybe even Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus or Neptune catching fire lol. ^^

p.s maybe we should get an ats vault going that way when the world ends we wont end up with dip%^&s running the world again lol.

reply to post by SheopleNation


Most cities have a total store of 4 weeks of food without restocking. In most cities your water and sewage are heavily reliant on power supplies.

Deaths will be in the Billions not millions. In some countries the scramble for food and the water will kill off large chunks of the population and then it snowballs as rotting corpses cause disease to spread. Society goes into final collapse. Now throw in the mini ice age and it is likely that people will freeze to death before the food runs out.

While you are wondering around looking for animals to shoot, so are millions of others many of whom are freezing to death. The animals on the other hand are all heading south If you are looking for food, look for the frozen animals, but, most of those have been covered by ice and snow and if you do find one, you have to thaw it .................

It will not just be a few months either, think in terms of a few years. The best of the best may survive if they can think their way through it, most will not. Once you get underground the temperature is stable inspite of what is happening on the surface.

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Someone needs to do some digging on these Chinese cities in Africa. We need to know where they are, how they are accessed, by what roads, distance from the coast, major supply inlets for the city. We need to know which direction this city was built to be accessed by (East, West, North, or South). Other information needed should be: integrity of material for constructs, plumbing, water treatment plants, irrigation and agricultural networks.

The architecture of this city and its roads is a better determination of any life threatening future events. The American government and its actions are inflated. There is a large population of critical thinking Americans growing that no social construct can contain.

I know for a fact these Chinese ghost cities exist in the rural mainland of China as well as Africa.

ITS TIME TO DO WORK ATS. No more sitting around jerking each other off with stars and flags. I want to see some concrete posts here!

reply to post by Pepeluacho


beause that is going to be their first test nuke site. looks like the fake play sets usa built in the desert to blow up with nukes but on a larger scale no?

of course i dont know why you are worried about that when they are building one here too. ^^

endoftheamericandream.com...

also i could be that they were expecting to find oil/gems/gold silver in the area and were building a pop up mining town incase the explorations paid off, then they could just move workers right in and begin work. just an idea ^^

Originally posted by pheonix358
reply to post by SheopleNation

 

Most cities have a total store of 4 weeks of food without restocking. In most cities your water and sewage are heavily reliant on power supplies.

Deaths will be in the Billions not millions. In some countries the scramble for food and the water will kill off large chunks of the population and then it snowballs as rotting corpses cause disease to spread. Society goes into final collapse. Now throw in the mini ice age and it is likely that people will freeze to death before the food runs out.

While you are wondering around looking for animals to shoot, so are millions of others many of whom are freezing to death. The animals on the other hand are all heading south

If you are looking for food, look for the frozen animals, but, most of those have been covered by ice and snow and if you do find one, you have to thaw it .................

It will not just be a few months either, think in terms of a few years. The best of the best may survive if they can think their way through it, most will not. Once you get underground the temperature is stable inspite of what is happening on the surface.

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Yeah Pheonix, I hear yuh. Depends on the situation but I get what you're saying. An ice age event without a doubt changes things drastically. It seems that one must have an underground bunker of some sort stocked with enough food and water to last months, but that seems unrealistic for every common man and / or family?

How many of these things exist that can be purchased anyway? I have seen these outdated missile silos for sale, but not enough to shelter many. Yes, it seems to me moving to Southern regions is the solution, but only for an ice age. If you're in a southern region and we experience a polar shift, that would not be a place that anyone would want to be because you would end up in the new North Pole or very near it. So many "if's" my friend. ~$heopleNation

I've been bringing up doom-topic threads for awhile
Don't know why this guy gets a bunch of stars. Oh well

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i dont even know why people care about stars, do we win a free trip or a t-shirt or something ? ^^

One reply to multiple posters. The idea is not to remain underground for years on end. The idea is to remain concealed and safe whilst the rest of humanity, the 'Where is my Government' brigade die off. I would say six months at most and more likely a lot less than that.

The survivors have earned their place in the new world by being practical.

You stay hidden as long as you can and then with your last provisions you head to an area with better climate.

Once the population is at sustainable levels the rebuilding can start.

Are there moves afoot to thin out the herd in areas that mother nature will not get to? Yes, there has to be

Consider also that in Putermans scenario, less solar output > lower global temperatures > less heating of the oceans > less clouds formed > less rain on agricultural land > dramatically less food is grown.

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One part of the puzzle I can not fathom, and it annoys me no end, is INDIA.

The population of India will surpass China's shortly.

In this scenario they have to be thinned. Not much use for call center operators I do not see the severe cold eliminating the masses and yet they are a massive problem, in the same league as Africa.

Thoughts?

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