The greatest horror - transdimensional alien ecology.

This knowlege is from traditional shamanism, and not usually "leaked". As a disclaimer for trolls, I state simply that lack of perception is ignorance. If you have never snorkled in the ocean, then you have limited perception of the fish, crabs, squid, and coral within. If you have snorkled frequently, you may gain intimate knowlege and awareness of the coral reef's ecology. Shamans are deep sea divers by trade, and are the seers through most of human history.

Some information is "classified" within certain circles of shamanism, because some knowlege can be dangerous. Certainly knowlege of nuclear fision has its risks. So does knowlege of certain alien ecologies. The information in this post unfortunately involves a subset of "beings" that occupy an extremely complex realm of activity teeming with diverse entities - in effect alien beings - because they occupy a space somewhat outside of our material continuum that allows beyond earth based mobility. In shamanism, this world is refered to as the underworld, or the sky world, spiritual world, or dimensions inbetween. In physics, non-visible quantum dimensions reflect portions of this complex, usually invisible ecosysytem. Religion and philosophy define these realms as well. In truth, it is an alien world. To the shaman it is a very real world with consistent presences of structure and form that are alien and alive.

Traditionally, these forms/beings are referred to as "spirituals". Practically, they can be perceived as consistent ,complex living thought forms that are self-conscious, and self driven in the same way as, say, a squirrel moves itself. Like a squirrels, some of the entities that occupy this ecosystem are common, and look the same as other "squirrels". Biasically, there are "species" of these alien entities. Some of these species are smarter than humans. Many are not as smart as squirrels. Each species has specific "functions". Like squirrels, some species are predisposed to gathering nuts. Others, like lions, are predisposed to kill meat...so to speak. It is one of these species this post will discuss.

Shamans, or even expert remote viewers, have seen these ecologies and noted that certain of these creatures are significant to physical human life. Some of these entities interact with the physical body, but through the "spiritual" level so to speak. Ecologies, even non-perceived ecologies, intertwine and interact, as physicist would agree.. Like a leech attaches to the body to suck blood, some entities from these non-perceived realities may behave as leeches. Others, for example the traditional "grey aliens", of which there are more variations and appearances than all the homosaphiens in history, have other behaviors and functions. Some benign, others indiferent, and very few, hostile.

This post will refer to a lower order species from the same ecological niche of the universe that many transdimensional grey aliens occupy - a creature of particular interest to shamans and students of alien lifeforms, spirituality, or even science. This species is similar to a squirrel or leech in the order of things in this alien ecology. More specifically, it resembles an octopus, with many of the same attributes, except it has greater intelligence, mobility, trasformability, and 3-dimensionality to its appearance and color shifting abilities. This is a preditory species.

In this alien ecology, some entities feed on a form of consciousness, or thought forms, perhaps is the best way it can be described shamanically. Like a leech feeds differently from a mosquito, this "octopus" [it has a shifting number of legs, not always eight] feeds in its own way.

Now here's where it gets complex. Much like geneticists are near to gaining the ability to change the form and function of plants and animals through genetic manipulation, highly conscious alien entities are able to alter and shape the function of certain "consistent thought form entities/species" within their dimension of activity. Specific species, namely this "octopus", have been manipulated "gentically" so to speak, so that their natural function within their alien ecology has been programmed and enhanced toward specific purposes.

Now here is where it gets ugly, and this is why the information is "classified" among shamans and seers. This particular species of "non-terrestrial" octopus was engineered by a particularly domineering form of alien consciousness that is a far relative of the "greys", and a near relative of this octopus species. Like homosapiens are related to rats, this "spiritual octopus" is a relative of these shape shifting grey aliens. Both species are "transdimiensional" in the sense that they can interact with "terrestrial physical beings". The octopus cannot occupy a space within our perceptual realm, but may in the future be perceivable by advances in quantuum technical instruments. They are real, perceivable, consistent entities with form and function.

The function of this "engineered entity" is to allow transdimensional activity and integration into the "physical" reality we know as our day to day reality for alien consciousnesses that exist primarily outside our dimension. To achieve the desired "thought entry" into our physically perceived reality these aliens use the engineered octopus. The "octopus" attaches to the "head" [on the spiritual level] of the human host. Perhaps the human "astral form" is the best analogy, although this is not a spiritual issue. it is a shamanic reality.

Once the octopus attaches to the [astral] head of the human host, it intiates its shapeshifting abilities, but it is ajusting shape on the thought form level, not physically. The best way to describe this shamanically, is that it tunes itself to the "thought feeling tone" of its host. It matches frequency, which weakens the octopus as it is pulled out of its dimensionality and into physically perceived space, and it changes the octopus's shape accordingly. As attunement with the human host is reached, the octopus oscillates its frequency [i dont know how to describe this in physics, its a shamanic perception] toward its original ecology, where the dominant alien species that engineered it dwells. As it tunes to its host and achieved transdimensionality, it has profound impact on the consciousness of its human host. Although the "octopus" is a low species, it is able to "pull" the host human's consciousness into its own form. this is hard to explain. but the end result is that the octopus takes a solid, permanant final form that is permanantely bridged to the consciousness of the human host's astral body or spirit or "consciousness".

Once the octopus has "hardened" into its final feeding form onto the consciousness of the human individual, the individual's consciousness has also "melded" completely into unity with the octopus. I want to describe the consciousness of the "octopus" as retilian, for lack of a better word. It is not...um...emotional or loving. it is preditory and selfish. An unfortunate effect of the octopus's bonding to the human host is that the human's consciousness "calcifies" and hardens slowly into a meld with the octopus' reptilian intelligence. There is brilliance in this, in that it was "genetically" engineered by the aliens to do that, like a biological machine, in a way that the human host was unaware of his/her own transformation of consciousness.

I had a dream about 6 montha ago that tenatacle like vines were growing and spreading unseen through the world and the vines penetrate humans suddenly causing the human being to jolt and stiffen. After that vine oscillates is a way to control the emotion states of its hosts. Some very limited number of people were immune and the vine couldnt stay in their body, it was rejected from the body. These people who were immune were banding togther and trying to form a group. I was in this group and asked to help some survivor who was on the ground crying it was strange. Only remember dream becuase of your post.

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The host literally believes that it is HIS OWN consciousness. In fact, his consciousness has been largely owned in discretion by the octopus, and becomes a doorway so to speak.

Now this is where it gets interesting. Once the entity is hardened in place on the human host, the dominant alien grey species can use this octopus consciousness, symbiotically, to enter the human hosts consciousness, as PERCEIVER. What that means is that these transdimensional aliens ahve entered an ecology not there own in a realm not there own, making it "native" to their consciousness, when normally they could only interact with the outskirts of our consciousness. The effect on the human is minut compared to the octopus, since the alien grey is simply "looking" through you, by its conscious bond with the octopus. In essence, the host is a window. The alien does not control the host, per se. it occupies the octopus that controls the host.

This is not new or novel. This is extremely widespread. There are ways to prevent it. There is no way to recover once fully turned into a hardened window for this species of alien consciousness. all the best. haters gonna hate. But the 40,000 year old shamanic tradition knows what it really is.

As far as Empirical Evidence goes, when it comes to the ocean, snorkel or no, I can get a net and drag those slimy little fish kicking and screaming, gulping and flopping into the light day.

Done and did, poke it with a stick. look at that; fish do indeed exist.

Shamaism? Snorkeling?

How naive and wide eyed mouth breathing goshing and gushing gullible do you have to be to believe this word of mouth fantasy land stuff?

You could very well rationalize that people suffering from Schizophrenia have their 18th eye open so they can commune with their backwards diagonal lower upper higher self in the 539th dimensional vibration.
It don't make it true.
You're welcome to palaver with Schizophrenics about the mysteries of the universe if you like, but, as a matter of educated opinion, methinks you'd be wasting your time, just as methinks you're wasting your time with witch doctors, leprechauns, or whatever/whoever it is you're getting all this earth Shattering Breaking News Leaked information from.

Ask them if they can bring one of them fishies off the reef flopping and gasping into the light of day for us will ya?

I wish I didn't read it all but the last bit here..
40,000 year old shamanic tradition knows what it really is, well seeing that the oldest evidence of shamans is about 12 thousand years old, I call BS.
Good story though.

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I see that some people have no experience in this area, yet feel compelled to showcase their ignorance for all to see. Hopefully they'll get a clue before they die... That's how I often reassure myself, anyways.

Interesting read... I've never heard of an octopus-like entity. Are they a new creation altogether by the higher intelligences? Or do they have a long history?

Also, do you think they are related to the Gnostic concept of Archons, or perhaps the "messengers of deception" of Jacques Vallee?

Sounds a lot like the stories of Don Juan and the Art of Dreaming.

And the Octopus for whatever reason reminds me of Kthulu.

reply to post by Son of Will


I fell for the Mexican shaman stuff after reading the art of dreaming by Carlos Castaneda, I spent a couple of years trying it, then I found out it was all a lie so I take any of this stuff with a pinch of salt.

reply to post by yourmaker


Lol great minds eh..

reply to post by Druscilla


If there was a way to indicate my agreement with your stance, and applaud it, that went further than starring your post, then I would be performing that task as we speak.

Instead, I will add some further ruminations on the matter.

First of all, I wish to make clear, that I have no problem with religion, or faith. I have a faith of my own, so to have an issue with these things would make me immediately guilty of a huge self deception. However, I keep a deliberate degree of sepertation between my beliefs, and my ability to logically dissect information, and draw conclusions from it. This is called objectivity. It prevents my beliefs from interefering with pure logical process, and it is pure logical process that informs and makes possible, scientific investigation of phenomena, and the mechanical structure of all creation.

The reason I mention this, is that science is a bridge between all peoples. Those with , and without faith, can appreciate information gained using its methods equally, and those of different faiths can also, and do, come together to work on projects. A really wonderful example is the Sesame particle accelerator project in the middle east, that is a project being built and run with the combined efforts of Arabs and Israelis.

To the OP:

However, no one who gains information gained purely by faith, will ever be able to connect to vast numbers of people in the same way, as someone who has gained thier result by way of scientific, and therefore proveable means and methods. This is why the information you present here has no quality. The aim of discovering and proving the existence of alien intelligence, is to show the entire world that we are not alone in the universe, and you cannot perform such a task by using arcane methods that such a small fraction of the worlds population can actually connect with.

Your "disclaimer" that states that you are not interested in people who are not capable of the kind of suspense of disbelief required to connect with the state of mind which might allow one to interact with this so called wisdom of yours, is nothing more than suggesting to the Emperor, that only a fool would refuse to take up the offer of transparent, weightless clothing.

So, in total then, what you have posted amounts to, and achieves nothing. The whole aim of the search for extra terrestrial intelligence, is to locate, and bring to the attention of the human race, the presence of other intelligences in the universe. Your "evidence" can prove nothing to the majority of people, because most people, even those who have religious beliefs, react to what they can touch, hear, and observe visually.Your shamans present nothing for the majority of people in that way. There are also many people on the Earth, who though capable of logical thought and scientific process would see your method as heretical, and therefore would mistrust your result on principle.

As if these things were not bad enough, you then try and brush off the concerns of those of us who hold scientific examination above our faith, when dealing with matters of this nature, by saying that unless we are essentially capabe of believing what may as well be fairy story, we will not understand, or expierience the wonder of contact with alien intelligences!

If you had not attempted such a shallow obsfucation, I might have been open minded to the idea that these shaman have a connection, but that sadly, it is useless as as a tool in the quest to show the human race that it is part of a greater whole . As it is, your implication that unless we can do what they do, and think as they think, there is something wrong with us smacks of sham and showmanship, snake oil and lies.

Preventing ones self from falling prey to such utter twaddle, is one of the key reasons people have adopted science as thier shield and sword against the darkness of the lie.

Originally posted by yourmaker
Sounds a lot like the stories of Don Juan and the Art of Dreaming.

And the Octopus for whatever reason reminds me of Kthulu.

Does this jolt your memory ?
it was the cover picture to the British role-playing game monthly magazine White Dwarf


Note that it was a Cthulhu adventure !!

Interesting.

There may be some real tangible video proof to go along with this for me.

This is my video and this is me being attacked by "something" on my head while I sleep. It very could be this "octopus". The attack happens at the 36sec mark and there is an Orb visible prior to this.

sirric

reply to post by sirbadazz


Neat story, kind of a cross between Dungeons & Dragons and H P Lovecraft. You give a lot of info but leave out the most important information on how to prevent this intrusion. What use is it to explain that dimensional beings are taking over our minds without giving us the defense?

reply to post by sirbadazz

The information in this post unfortunately involves a subset of "beings" that occupy an extremely complex realm of activity teeming with diverse entities - in effect alien beings - because they occupy a space somewhat outside of our material continuum that allows beyond earth based mobility.

i have similar believes. how did you come to these informations ?
i think, this knowledge can only be received from these non-human beings. without the gifts from the other realm, humans stay clueless.

Well, Don Juan is something to pay attention to. And some of those things in the sky and even in space, look organic, like manta rays, squid. The universe is like an ocean of waves.

But, despite all of that, would not worry about these kind of things that much. They would be what others refer to as bottom feeders.

And no they cannot harm your soul matrix at all. The only thing that can harm your soul matrix, is when you stop loving, caring, or attempting to problem solve, and give into the mindless apathy and self love of the world and don't strive to rise above the situations and problems in your life, or retaliate and harm others. Though some of it is growing and some relationships are messy, and yet, waking up and forgiving self and others and getting on track is the thing we're meant to do. There is nothing outside of our personal responsibility (ie. what we can affect) that can harm us. Not referring to the physical dream like world where bad things can happen, but we're still meant to rise above it.

We are not alone here, and have a Family watching over and many people experience what can be daily miracles or wonderful signs of the meaning life, or turn arounds in dark moments of their lives.

This bottom feeder stuff is annoying, but they don't harden up your soul and steal your future away.

One technique that seems to work a bit, I don't know if it really works, or if its just the intent, that you're demonstrating intent, which means Family assists.

But before sleep, or while lying down, in look at the ceiling and walls, and corners, and just imagine yourself with a huge paintbrush, and brush it all with some wonderful Peaceful Loving and Perfect Barrier type paint, that only allows Good and Family to ever access, no one else. Close all permissions.

Problem Solved.

Thank Family, God, and send lots of Gratitude.

When you are having difficulties or feel some negativity flowing, try to keep your feet on the ground, and pray, or reach for peace, to remain calm in difficulties. And always know there are people in far worse positions than you are, and while you're at it, pray for all those to be Safe, Loved, Rescued, and Progressed, pray for everyone's safety, healing, renewal of love, growth of spirit, and daily miracles in their lives.

Throw a bunch of kids in a location where they can be monitored at night.

You'll see the "Succubus/Incubus" come. Black mass will hover over their bodies and go in through their heads. These energy beings somehow do something in the brain to kick on puberty / sexual development. You'll watch a 7 year old boy get visited by one and the next morning he's walking around with two softball sized genitals bulging out in the morning. How these energy life forms can kickstart so much cell activity in such a short time is amazing.

If you interefere with their activities those black masses will shoot out of the room horizontally as if they were pulled away by a tentacle....your "octopus" theory could also be interpreted as there's one central point where all of these "black masses" come out of and have been called for centuries "Succubus/Incubus" and maybe they do operate as "octopus" as an energy life form variant and able to reach out to massive numbers of kids every night for feeding time.

What existed first, the chicken or the egg? In this case I think the energy life forms existed before humans did. They made us to be their batteries. They want us reproducing. They can't go where the sun shines.

Put UV light bulbs where your kids sleep and see if it keeps them away at night.....would it prevent your kids from hitting puberty? The energy life forms wouldn't be able to visit the kids at night to alter the chemicals in their brains/DNA to kickstart puberty/ sexual development??

Originally posted by sirbadazz
This knowlege is from traditional shamanism, and not usually "leaked". As a disclaimer for trolls, I state simply that lack of perception is ignorance. If you have never snorkled in the ocean, then you have limited perception of the fish, crabs, squid, and coral within. If you have snorkled frequently, you may gain intimate knowlege and awareness of the coral reef's ecology. Shamans are deep sea divers by trade, and are the seers through most of human history.

Yeah, but we have other ways of knowing that fish and coral exist -- even if we don't snorkel.

A better analogy might be that Shamans have ventured into and explored the meadows where the unicorns live.

I'm not saying that Shamans have not done some interesting things with their inner explorations of their own consciousness -- but I don't think they've found a doorway to other dimensions, either.

Whatever they discovered about their minds through meditation and investigation of their own subconscious does not go beyond the confines of their own brains (i.e., it has nothing to do with the world outside their heads -- no matter what dimension we are talking about). If they truly believe that they found access to other dimensions through Shamanism, I think it is just that their minds make them THINK they did.

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Schizophrenia? That's starting to get offensive, you are insulting people who have other means of acquiring knowledge and know more than you. I don't know much of shamanizm though I do know they drug themselves and do things like sort of - if you eat certain kinds of mushrooms. I've no idea what they see is just imagination but that's how they see things, provided we can do things with the human brain, things that you may not even imagine.

Shamanizm is no Shizophrenia... Oh gawd I think some need to get more open minded the hard way.

reply to post by Druscilla

Shamaism? Snorkeling?
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You're welcome to palaver with Schizophrenics about the mysteries of the universe if you like, ...

I wasn't aware users of psychoactives were psychologically labeled as schizophrenic. Is there a journal publication that establishes the connection?

I would recommend reading the work of anthropologists like Jeremy Narby to get a better understanding of what's obviously a scary subject for you.

Originally posted by Imtor
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Schizophrenia? That's starting to get offensive, you are insulting people who have other means of acquiring knowledge and know more than you. I don't know much of shamanizm though I do know they drug themselves and do things like sort of - if you eat certain kinds of mushrooms. I've no idea what they see is just imagination but that's how they see things, provided we can do things with the human brain, things that you may not even imagine.

Shamanizm is no Shizophrenia... Oh gawd I think some need to get more open minded the hard way.

Yeah -- I wouldn't call it schizophrenia, either.

Still, as I indicated above, shamans may be very good at exploring their own subconscious through meditation and drugs, but that doesn't mean they found access to other dimensions.

I think that any doorway to other dimensions they think they have discovered comes purely from looking deep into their subconscious, and doesn't really exist outside of their own minds.

That may sound like I'm saying that they are delusional, but I'm not really going that far. I think studying the human subconscious can lead to some really cool (and real) discoveries of the human mind -- I just don't believe it provides access to other dimensions.