Disclosure of the moon landing hoax.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

 

Why bother? What purpose is it going to serve to find two crashed ascent modules? They served their purpose, and were done with, so they were discarded. It wouldn't have made a difference if they brought them back and let them burn up in the atmosphere, so why does it matter if they crashed into the moon and can't be found? Seriously, what does it prove?

You do realize that supercomputer time is expensive as hell, and would have to come out of their budget right? So why should they bother?

Zaphod, you are caught in a trap and you can't walk out of it so easily.

NASA claims scientific precision and engineering exactitude in the Apollo program. NASA claims to know all the other module locations, with extreme precision and they have published their evidence of the claims. We can all review that evidence and come to our own conclusions.

Incredibly, after so many wonderful space achievements, all documented with extreme precision, we are now told and expected to believe that NASA "lost contact" with these 2 modules and never made a realistic effort to find them for 41 years.

I think you are living in a time warp, dude. Little things like this can bring down governments. Werner von Braun knew exactly what this was all about. And that's why we DEMAND disclosure in all the lunar matters from the LBJ/Nixon years and, furthermore, the weaknesses in the Defender denials are getting truly repetitious. Where are your big guns like DJW001, JayUtah or the Mythbusters to help you out on the this one?

I thought Jay was the kind of supercomputer engineering genius wunderkind who could prove me wrong using pure logic. Zaphod, you are not using logic and your argument amounts to "Why bother?".

I believe that there are a lot of readers in this thread who do not post but they would like to know the locations of Eagle & Orion. Why? Because it would ease their skepticism, a bit.

A baseball team puts out 9 players to the field to fill the 9 positions. If a team puts out only 7 players it would be a great disadvantage... and nobody would do that... because it's stupid.

And you have to understand something. When Apollo Investigators look at the problem of Eagle & Orion it is only because NASA has left us this mystery to be solved. Think about it.

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter


And what does it prove? Even if NASA came out and said "We found the modules, here they are" you would simply say they're lying to cover up that they couldn't find them. Nothing NASA says will ever convince you of anything. Again, what does it prove? Nothing.

The modules were going to be destroyed one way or another. They were when they crashed into the moon. So they don't know down to the millimeter where they crashed, they would have deorbited long ago and crashed. If you woke up tomorrow and NASA said "We found the two missing modules!" Would you believe them? Of course not. You'd chalk it up to the CIA and Nixon somehow and go on about how they're about to crash asteroids into the landing sites.

reply to post by Zaphod58

And what does it prove?

I am doing my job as an investigator. NASA has some missing modules and nobody can find them! Obviously, NASA needs our help. NASA is also busy making Keep Out Zones and National Parks for Nixon's Apollo space trash on the lunar surface.

All of these pieces to the puzzle work together, Zaphod. It's not just a matter of the missing modules,,, there is the matter of NASA's lack of interest in them, and the deafening silence of the science establishment to pursue the evidence to the final conclusion. To wit, Eagle & Orion were hi-jacked by Howard Hughes.

NASA is also busy tracking 10,000 pieces of space junk orbiting around the Earth. NASA is also very busy tracking NEA's and have truly entered into the next phase of the von Braun Disclosure theory : Asteroids. Followed by E.T.

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter


Why should they be interested in them? What good are they? They served their purpose and were going to be discarded one way or another. They were either going to be allowed to crash into the moon and be destroyed, or they were going to be allowed to burn up in the atmosphere. Either way they were destined to be destroyed. They served no purpose once they landed on the moon and returned the crew to the CM.

Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
I am doing my job as an investigator.

So according to you a "investigator" has to forge magazine covers....

pathetic, you have zero facts so you have to forge magazine covers - and you call that "investigating"!

NASA has some missing modules and nobody can find them!

Wrong again, NASA knows where they are - just you do not.

Originally posted by hellobruce
So according to you a "investigator" has to forge magazine covers....

pathetic, you have zero facts so you have to forge magazine covers - and you call that "investigating"!

Ask NASA about how it is 'forging' new images by removing the cross hairs from Apollo images under copyright contracts with Arizona State University. I am not a forger. You are defending a hoax.

Originally posted by hellobruce
Wrong again, NASA knows where they are - just you do not.

Order in the Thread.

Did you just say "NASA knows where they are"??

Link to your sources was not provided. Why should we believe you?

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter


You really don't pay attention do you? The internet images will have them removed, but the originals won't. The original images are untouched

Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

 

You really don't pay attention do you? The internet images will have them removed, but the originals won't. The original images are untouched

So the whole operation between NASA and ASU to doctor the Apollo images is for propaganda. There is no way to defend that! The Defenders are doomed now!

Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
I am not a forger.

Yes you are, as you had to forge the magazine cover!

the thing that makes me think that the footage was faked is NO NOISE i have had plenty of hoods/ helmets on that were air fed and it was noisy very noisy but not one bit of that is heard in the tapes but then again nasa can do magik .

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter


Where did anyone but you say that?

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Then they're faking everything in space, because during ISS spacewalks you don't hear any noise either.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by geobro

 

Then they're faking everything in space, because during ISS spacewalks you don't hear any noise either.

they have editing now but back then it was live we are told

reply to post by geobro


I've listened to live spacewalks and not heard a sound. So are they editing the sound out as it's coming down? That's an impressive feat.

reply to post by Zaphod58
as you will know air does make a sound when getting pumped through a system that is what i find strange and you will need a lot of air in those conditions

reply to post by geobro


A space suit oxygen system operates at a much lower pressure than on earth. You're not pumping the oxygen into the helmet, but into the entire suit, to keep pressure up on the astronauts body. It also uses a 100% oxygen system, so they have to worry about getting the bends when they return on board, which meant the shuttle had to lower cabin pressure for awhile after a spacewalk.

Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
reply to post by Zaphod58

 

And what does it prove?

I am doing my job as an investigator. NASA has some missing modules and nobody can find them! Obviously, NASA needs our help. NASA is also busy making Keep Out Zones and National Parks for Nixon's Apollo space trash on the lunar surface.

All of these pieces to the puzzle work together, Zaphod. It's not just a matter of the missing modules,,, there is the matter of NASA's lack of interest in them, and the deafening silence of the science establishment to pursue the evidence to the final conclusion. To wit, Eagle & Orion were hi-jacked by Howard Hughes.

NASA is also busy tracking 10,000 pieces of space junk orbiting around the Earth. NASA is also very busy tracking NEA's and have truly entered into the next phase of the von Braun Disclosure theory : Asteroids. Followed by E.T.

tell us how they can find the missing modules?.. ive told you hundreds of times already in order to track something in space you need continual updates on its location. the 10000 space junk NASA are tracking is done autonomously and it is continually updating the location of the space junk in order not to lose track of it.. the only way to fix the location to within several metres of the lunar module is by star tracking from the astronauts inside the lunar modules.

there will always be a margin of error when you calculate anything. you learn this in high school science, you know the plus minus stuff.. there is no such thing as absolute precision in calculations, there will always be variables.

it is near impossible to find orion unless you get very lucky, but the error value for not updating a tumbling module for around one year can be quite a large margin.

Originally posted by geobro
reply to post by Zaphod58

 

as you will know air does make a sound when getting pumped through a system that is what i find strange and you will need a lot of air in those conditions

Atmospheric pressure for earth is 14.7 PSI or 1 atm. Space suits operate at 4.3 PSI or .29 atm. So to answer your question there quiet because the pressure is so low. In fact to even suit up they have to lower the cabin pressure to prevent damaging the suits. The reason why you dont hear anything is simple very little pressure equals no noise its not like pumping up a car tire.