Disclosure of the moon landing hoax.

originally posted by: choos
a reply to: bobbypurify



why does it bears little significance?? the race to the moon was a display of dominance.. the soviets were gutted when they heard about apollo 11.. so proving to themselves and the world that NASA faked it is of little significance??? makes no sense..

That's the story we're told. Although, it's hard to find a Russian source claiming they were "gutted" by Apollo 11''s supposed feat.



p.s. no i dont find it weird.. its politics, leaders change the world changes.. allegiances change.. the world is unpredictable like that.. it wouldnt be a very pleasant world if no one attempted to improve relations with perceived enemies.

I'm reffering to our space partnership, even now, during such tension. "Cold War" seems like a term of propaganda. Two words with deep negative connotations. Spooky



p.p.s. and i believe you are wrong in your assertion that no one knows.. science knows, science doesnt care about your beliefs or my beliefs or what you or i think.. science is science built up from hundreds of years of knowledge.. these videos we have shown you is showing you the lunar gravity in a vacuum.. we are not proving it science is proving it.. if you want to argue with these footages you are basically arguing with science and what the world knows about science.

You have too much faith in what science has been presented to you. Yes, science in itself doesn't care about beliefs but once man intervenes - science has been proven manipulated time and time again. OMG - it's like the Church almost. That could be an entirely different thread.

a reply to: DelMarvel

Sounds extremely pompous. You know how the world works? You know all the inner-workings and secrets of governments world-wide?

You, my friend - you should write a book.

a reply to: bobbypurify

You have too much faith in what science has been presented to you. Yes, science in itself doesn't care about beliefs but once man intervenes - science has been proven manipulated time and time again. OMG - it's like the Church almost. That could be an entirely different thread.

I don't think you and i will be able to educate apollogists in a proper way.

They have been rusted up for too long.

So therefore you can't expect that they make any progress in understanding the lies we were told by nasa.

a reply to: choos

thats irresponsible and a huge gamble..

President Nixon did irresponsible things while in office and he was a huge gambler... you should read more books.

what if china sends a rover to apollo 11 site tomorrow?? NASA would NOT have predicted that in 1969, unless they had a time machine.. which is the point im making..

Time machines? He just made an argument with NASA and time machines in the same sentence!!

originally posted by: bobbypurify
That's the story we're told. Although, it's hard to find a Russian source claiming they were "gutted" by Apollo 11''s supposed feat.

sergei krushchev seems to believe they were very sour about Apollo 11..

I'm reffering to our space partnership, even now, during such tension. "Cold War" seems like a term of propaganda. Two words with deep negative connotations. Spooky

so once in a cold war forever in a cold war?? no chance of leadership changes and no chance of changes in relations?? every should just sit back and shoot on sight??

you can learn alot by working with your enemies..

You have too much faith in what science has been presented to you. Yes, science in itself doesn't care about beliefs but once man intervenes - science has been proven manipulated time and time again. OMG - it's like the Church almost. That could be an entirely different thread.

im using science to verify the footage.. thats the misunderstanding you are making..

i am using basic constant acceleration formulas, which have been around for hundreds of years to determine what is possible and what is not.. do you really want to claim im putting my "faith in the science that has been presented to me" now??

do you realise you are suggesting that the use of physics learnt hundreds of years ago is a lie used to fake Apollo?? it really is like a church this hoax believing theory is..

p.s. if you want to start proving that the laws of physics is wrong thinking it will prove Apollo wrong.. you are going to need alot more than just "i think it looks strange"

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter

President Nixon did irresponsible things while in office and he was a huge gambler... you should read more books.

cool story bro..

Time machines? He just made an argument with NASA and time machines in the same sentence!!

yes, the only possible way to see the future like NASA has (as per some hoax believer theories) is with a time machine.. if hoax believers want to believe that the LRO imaged the Apollo landing site when the moon is completely untouched, a time machine is required..

originally posted by: bobbypurify

This photo doesn't make any sense.

does this image make sense to you??

a reply to: choos

I realize this is the part that you seem to be really having trouble grasping.

i am using basic constant acceleration formulas, which have been around for hundreds of years to determine what is possible and what is not..

When I control the contrainsts of a procedure, experiment, etc - I can use real laws of science to deceive. I can't believe how many times I've had to explain this. Do you think Hollywood could make an action sequence scientifically accurate? Yes, they'd just have to make everything follow a certain few scientific laws. Now, is the scene real life? No, it's produced.

All of which is presented by your side as proofs can be reproduced here on Earth and, in my opinion, it was!

Why are text books starting to forget about Apollo? Why is Apollo rarely referenced in current space procedures or future ones? It's almost ignored completely! Even in planned missions that bare much resembalence to Apollo, albeit, of longer duration. I think you need to smell the coffee and take your dissonance somewhere else, buddy! You can do it, Choos

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: bobbypurify

This photo doesn't make any sense.

does this image make sense to you??

No it doesn't. I believe it's fake and used by your side without reference. Can you find another photo like that? How would the sun, which is millions of miles away, contort shadow angles almost 90 degrees on a flat surface. Again, find another photo producing that exact effect

a reply to: bobbypurify

As i told before, i went to my library (a fairly big one) and guess what :

I couldn't find any book about the moonlandings.....as if they were silently taken away.

a reply to: dragonridr

Nixon wad so disliked by Nasa that even the astonauts didn't want to have anything to do with him.

Not really true. Frank Borman faithfully served as Richard Nixon's liaison to NASA and faithfully watched the Apollo 11 launch on TV, with Nixon, in Nixon's small office in the White House.

The Apollo astronauts gratefully accepted many prestigious awards from Nixon and watched movies with Nixon in the White House, had dinners with the president in the White House, etc, etc, etc.

originally posted by: bobbypurify

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: bobbypurify

This photo doesn't make any sense.

does this image make sense to you??

No it doesn't. I believe it's fake and used by your side without reference. Can you find another photo like that? How would the sun, which is millions of miles away, contort shadow angles almost 90 degrees on a flat surface. Again, find another photo producing that exact effect

this is one way:

www.clavius.org...

you should go outside more often and not concentrate on your phone so much and pay attention to nature more..

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: bobbypurify

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: bobbypurify

This photo doesn't make any sense.

does this image make sense to you??

No it doesn't. I believe it's fake and used by your side without reference. Can you find another photo like that? How would the sun, which is millions of miles away, contort shadow angles almost 90 degrees on a flat surface. Again, find another photo producing that exact effect

this is one way:

www.clavius.org...

you should go outside more often and not concentrate on your phone so much and pay attention to nature more..

I'm sorry but that was the worst attempt to debunk that photo I've ever read. Their example of two pegs through cardboard is at about a 45 degree angle to create the desired shadow discrepansy WTF??? What a sham? You should be ashamed at even posting that. Are you contending those astros are on a 45 degree slope? Are you suggesting the background behind the astro with the shorter shadow is at a 45 degree angle? I'm going to need proof because I'll I see from Clavius, which is typical of them, is a bending of truths. Now, with that said, I see this from plenty of hoax sites too. I'll be honest.

ETA: Please everyone click on his link then look at the original that's uncropped. www.braeunig.us...

Now, notice how Clavius even changed the color of the photo to create the illusion of slope? What a crock of crap. There's a perfect example of deception.

originally posted by: bobbypurify

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: bobbypurify

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: bobbypurify

This photo doesn't make any sense.

does this image make sense to you??

No it doesn't. I believe it's fake and used by your side without reference. Can you find another photo like that? How would the sun, which is millions of miles away, contort shadow angles almost 90 degrees on a flat surface. Again, find another photo producing that exact effect

this is one way:

www.clavius.org...

you should go outside more often and not concentrate on your phone so much and pay attention to nature more..

I'm sorry but that was the worst attempt to debunk that photo I've ever read. Their example of two pegs through cardboard is at about a 45 degree angle to create the desired shadow discrepansy WTF??? What a sham? You should be ashamed at even posting that. Are you contending those astros are on a 45 degree slope? Are you suggesting the background behind the astro with the shorter shadow is at a 45 degree angle? I'm going to need proof because I'll I see from Clavius, which is typical of them, is a bending of truths. Now, with that said, I see this from plenty of hoax sites too. I'll be honest.

no im suggesting that uneven ground distorts shadow length as well as the perceived direction.. you can understand that right??

Now, notice how Clavius even changed the color of the photo to create the illusion of slope? What a crock of crap. There's a perfect example of deception.

so you are going to prove that there is no slope at or behind the leftmost astronaut?? by saying they used a different colour??

a reply to: bobbypurify

science has been proven manipulated time and time again. OMG - it's like the Church almost. That could be an entirely different thread.

That is what distinguishes the "believer" from a "reviewer". The Apollo Believers see NASA is like the Vatican and the moon rocks are Holy Relics, the astronauts are the Apostles, the transcripts are the scriptures, the Hasselblad images are the icons, etc.

The analogy fits well into the Apollo idiom because the faith required to beat the Commies to the moon is a firm, unswerving belief in the authority of the Church of NASA.

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: bobbypurify

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: bobbypurify

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: bobbypurify



This photo doesn't make any sense.

does this image make sense to you??

No it doesn't. I believe it's fake and used by your side without reference. Can you find another photo like that? How would the sun, which is millions of miles away, contort shadow angles almost 90 degrees on a flat surface. Again, find another photo producing that exact effect

this is one way:



www.clavius.org...



you should go outside more often and not concentrate on your phone so much and pay attention to nature more..

I'm sorry but that was the worst attempt to debunk that photo I've ever read. Their example of two pegs through cardboard is at about a 45 degree angle to create the desired shadow discrepansy WTF??? What a sham? You should be ashamed at even posting that. Are you contending those astros are on a 45 degree slope? Are you suggesting the background behind the astro with the shorter shadow is at a 45 degree angle? I'm going to need proof because I'll I see from Clavius, which is typical of them, is a bending of truths. Now, with that said, I see this from plenty of hoax sites too. I'll be honest.

no im suggesting that uneven ground distorts shadow length as well as the perceived direction.. you can understand that right??




so you are going to prove that there is no slope at or behind the leftmost astronaut?? by saying they used a different colour??

Look at my photo. Is there a 45 degree slope or even close to that behind the astro to distort shadow length? This is important to Choos' honesty. Let's pay careful attention to how he responds...get yo popcorn!

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
a reply to: bobbypurify

science has been proven manipulated time and time again. OMG - it's like the Church almost. That could be an entirely different thread.

That is what distinguishes the "believer" from a "reviewer". The Apollo Believers see NASA is like the Vatican and the moon rocks are Holy Relics, the astronauts are the Apostles, the transcripts are the scriptures, the Hasselblad images are the icons, etc.

The analogy fits well into the Apollo idiom because the faith required to beat the Commies to the moon is a firm, unswerving belief in the authority of the Church of NASA.

you forget that Apollo is backed by science.. hoax theories cannot hold up when held up to scrutiny..

so on one hand.. Apollo has science as support

hoax theories have belief as support..

seems you have the religion theory the wrong way around..

if you dont think so, why doesnt any hoax believer use real science to prove apollo fake? why is it always "it doesnt look right" or "i dont believe that" or "its just too unbelievable"

originally posted by: bobbypurify

Look at my photo. Is there a 45 degree slope or even close to that behind the astro to distort shadow length? This is important to Choos' honesty. Let's pay careful attention to how he responds...get yo popcorn!

does it need to be a 45 degree slope?? i never said it was a 45 degree slope, a slight change in gradient can have a large affect on shadow length when the sun is low on the horizon.. how do you know there is not a small dip between the two astronauts and the ground begins to rise near or behind the left most astronaut??

the clauvius site is used as an example to help you see clearly what is happening..

you really need to go outside and pay attention to nature more.. this is something you can do yourself.. go find a small hill and watch how the shadows change

a reply to: choos

Okay, so I'll take that as an admission that Clavius was being deceptive. Notice, for the length of his shadow to be 50-75% longer than is companion's, there would have to be a steep grade to cause this. Now, the burden is on you to show us all this steep grade that would make this discrepansy possible! Because, the uncropped photo shows a flat surface and nothing else. Could it be somewhat of a slope, sure, photos are 2D but i don't see it.

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
a reply to: bobbypurify

science has been proven manipulated time and time again. OMG - it's like the Church almost. That could be an entirely different thread.

That is what distinguishes the "believer" from a "reviewer". The Apollo Believers see NASA is like the Vatican and the moon rocks are Holy Relics, the astronauts are the Apostles, the transcripts are the scriptures, the Hasselblad images are the icons, etc.

The analogy fits well into the Apollo idiom because the faith required to beat the Commies to the moon is a firm, unswerving belief in the authority of the Church of NASA.

DUDE MYTHBUSTERS DEBUNKED YOUR BELIEFS OF A HOAX LANDING. When MYTHBUSTERS debunks your theory its a crappy theory. Weird shadows?highly reflective moon dust illuminates areas that would on earth be dark. No stars? light pollution or a camera that was not set up on a long exposure or both factors. NASA has full color pictures as well. We were there get over it. Sure NASA covers UFO activity up but the launch was watched by millions. numerous witnesses seen them enter the spacecraft.astronomers watched it too.