Disclosure of the moon landing hoax.

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: wmd_2008

What's up no list satellites yet that YOU claimed to know all about so whati the problem or did it dawn on you you were spouting BS!

I posted I was mistaken about known satellites at the time. I'm not trying to spout BS. Settle down and learn to use question marks when asking questions, o' intelligent one.

So what are you saying then?

Are you admitting that you might be wrong regards to claims that the images are fake?

So do YOU now realise that those images can PROVE that they did indeed travel to the Moon?

Also is that enough question marks for you?

a reply to: wmd_2008

I've always admitted I can be wrong. And no, those images are not PROOF of anything. They are just images taken of the Earth. Could they be from an astros' camera? Sure, but they could also be from a satellite that's not of public record. If you think that's proof you must be amazed by magicians!

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: wmd_2008

I've always admitted I can be wrong. And no, those images are not PROOF of anything. They are just images taken of the Earth. Could they be from an astros' camera? Sure, but they could also be from a satellite that's not of public record. If you think that's proof you must be amazed by magicians!

Well it would have to be a deep space probe. Unless there is a secret base out there somewhere. When you start having to say could be you lost the argument. Could be aliens took the picture and sent it to NASA. See really doesn't work well.

originally posted by: bobbypurify
Is there any video of the astros inside the LEM when they're not doing EVAs on the moon?

Interesting question, and no I don't think there is - unless someone wants to step in with some, though there are photographs.

The 16mm cameras that stayed on board were mounted to look out of the window - they were the ones that filmed the astronauts moving around outside and also filmed the descent, ascent and rendez-vous shots. Technically the TV cameras left on the surface filmed them while they were inside the LM, but obviously they are inside the LM so all you see is them dumping equipment outside.

I suppose from a tourist point of view it would have been fun to have a video record of the inside, but film budgets were tightly controlled and they were careful to make sure they had enough to film the things they actually went to document, not each other waving at the camera.

a reply to: dragonridr

You don't lose an argument by asking questions. That's silly and proves you're here to "win" rather than discuss. Could a satellite take an image of the whole earth? If so, then we have a case. Because you can shrink any image to fit whatever you need to and they did have the capability to do that in the 70s. Now, that doesn't mean I'm right, but rather that it's possible

a reply to: onebigmonkey

Here's one also nice memorial for the first man on the moon.
www.nasa.gov...

a reply to: onebigmonkey

Intetesting and thanks!

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: wmd_2008

I've always admitted I can be wrong. And no, those images are not PROOF of anything. They are just images taken of the Earth. Could they be from an astros' camera? Sure, but they could also be from a satellite that's not of public record. If you think that's proof you must be amazed by magicians!

Unfortunately when you have to invent stuff that supports your argument it pretty much fails at the first hurdle. Any argument that just consists of "ah well, secret stuff" is just grasping at straws. There is a lot of information on the satellite programs, military and civilian out there - feel free to start researching it and provide a satellite that was capable of generating full colour photography, and live TV feed, at the time of Apollo. Save yourself some time and just click on the link in my sig

In order to take a colour photograph of the entire Earth you either have to be in geostationary orbit or well outside it. A geostationary orbit does not allow to take motion sequences of a revolving Earth, which is what you get when you join sequences of Apollo images together.

You also have to explain how astronauts were able to describe, in detail, the weather systems that can be seen in the photographs before any satellite images could have been taken - particularly when they are broadcasting those same images on live TV, and where those images then feature on the next day's front page.

It isn't just the satellite evidence, it's the satellite evidence in combination with all the other evidence that ties in with it. All of it ties in together, all of it provides a coherent and consistent narrative that is supported by evidence and facts, and it is there to proven wrong by anyone who can find unshakable proof that it isn't correct. No-one has yet done that.

a reply to: onebigmonkey

Don't know if it counts as it's from the day before they landed while Buzz was prepping the LEM.

www.theguardian.com...

a reply to: onebigmonkey

Appreciate the response. Geostationary satellites were up in the mid 60s. I guess what I'm saying is that it's possible to have a top secret one providing the photos. I understand I have a huge burden of proof but let's not act like this defies logic or anything. I'm sure there's military surveillience outside of public knowledge. What I'm trying to provide are earthly means of how certain aspects of Apollo could have been acheived.

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: onebigmonkey

Appreciate the response. Geostationary satellites were up in the mid 60s. I guess what I'm saying is that it's possible to have a top secret one providing the photos. I understand I have a huge burden of proof but let's not act like this defies logic or anything. I'm sure there's military surveillience outside of public knowledge. What I'm trying to provide are earthly means of how certain aspects of Apollo could have been acheived.

Well, as long as we're just throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what will stick, maybe they had Wonder Woman take the pictures from her invisible plane. I realize I also have a huge burden of truth but it's possible that there really is a Wonder Woman.

a reply to: DelMarvel

Right, well I guess this is the type of response I can expect. How stupid of me to think the military and/or some government faction would have a top secret satellite. That's just like Wonder Woman and her invisible plane! Great analogy!

a reply to: AgentSmith

That's amazing. When was this video made available to the public? I've never seen video of the inside of the LEM

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: onebigmonkey

Appreciate the response. Geostationary satellites were up in the mid 60s. I guess what I'm saying is that it's possible to have a top secret one providing the photos. I understand I have a huge burden of proof but let's not act like this defies logic or anything. I'm sure there's military surveillience outside of public knowledge. What I'm trying to provide are earthly means of how certain aspects of Apollo could have been acheived.

Its If they had time to get live footage you need to be further away. Even these satelites would take several passes to get an entire picture.

a reply to: dragonridr

Expound on the point you're trying to make, brotha! I'm not sure I follow

ETA: Nevermind. So a satellite that's 22k mi out can't get a picture of the entire circular view of Earth in one shot?

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: dragonridr

Expound on the point you're trying to make, brotha! I'm not sure I follow

ETA: Nevermind. So a satellite that's 35k mi out can't get a picture of the entire circular view of Earth in one shot?

Exactly they will see areas like say north Amarica.

a reply to: dragonridr

It appears that they could, in fact, give a picture of a certain side of the Earth which would then be shrunken and imposed on photos/video, if need be.

www.crisp.nus.edu.sg...

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: dragonridr

It appears that they could, in fact, give a picture of a certain side of the Earth which would then be shrunken and imposed on photos/video, if need be.

www.crisp.nus.edu.sg...

You get distortion as the earth curves making the edges of the picture useless a good general rule is 1 satelite per continent.

Japan is heading there soon. There are resources there. Possibly we just never went back because we didn't have the technology to mine them. Now that we have that technology seems countries are scrambling to get there.

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: AgentSmith

That's amazing. When was this video made available to the public? I've never seen video of the inside of the LEM

Here's a video about the Apollo 13 mission. The crew of Apollo 13 used the LEM as a temporary "life boat" because of the power issues in the Command Module caused by the explosion that almost doomed the astronauts. The LEM had its own power supply that was unaffected by the explosion. Therefore, the astronauts took refuge there, and only used the CM at the end when they needed it for reentry.

There are various scenes in the video below of the astronauts taking temporary refuge in the LEM for their trip back toward Earth. These scenes are at the following time stamps:

10:05 to 10:29
10:45 to 11:10
11:46 to 12:05
12:41 to 12:58
13:10 to 13:24
16:40 to 16:53
17:05 to 17:32
19:51 to 20:10
20:22 to 20:47
21:11 to 21:27
22:07 to 22:30