Disclosure of the moon landing hoax.

dragonridr

You really should see someone about your fixation with Nixon its bordering on psychotic. But hey maybe that was Nixons plan all along he wants you to think he faked the moon landing. Maybe when Nixon went to the moon he discovered Nazis were already there on several moon basses. And Nixon knew it be real expensive to fight vietnam and all those moon Nazis.Boy this is fun when you dont have to show any proof. But at least now we figured out the Nixon moon connection i wonder if Adolf managed to sneak up there makes you wonder if the Russians actually found his body.

It's not a fixation with Nixon. You seem to forget that RN was the president for every Apollo "moon" landing. That's a common problem with Apollo Defenders... they like to forget things that are so obvious... and they love to forgive NASA for all the problems in the Apollo Narratives...

Like when Richard W. Orloff forgot to include the Apollo 15 TV segments in his "official" NASA timeline publication SP-4029.

Do you know what TV conference that was?

Why would NASA leave the Apollo 15 TV press conference out of the timeline?

SayonaraJupiter
Why would NASA leave the Apollo 15 TV press conference out of the timeline?

Oh there you go lying again shame on you. Nasa didnt leave anything out i suggest you go back and look again.

SayonaraJupiter

It's not a fixation with Nixon. You seem to forget that RN was the president for every Apollo "moon" landing. That's a common problem with Apollo Defenders... they like to forget things that are so obvious...

Who's forgetting anything? Have you ever met anybody who claims Nixon wasn't president during Apollo missions 11 through 17? Or that Wernher von Braun wasn't a Nazi? Nobody is trying to hide these facts, other than in your own little world where YOU are the only person who has spotted them. You think Nixon's presidency was some kind of big secret that only you are in on? Or von Braun's German heritage is some kind of big gotcha? They are accepted historical fact, just like the moon landings are.

Like when Richard W. Orloff forgot to include the Apollo 15 TV segments in his "official" NASA timeline publication SP-4029.

Does it say "timeline of absolutely everything that happened on the mission"? No. It's an overview of the main events - burns, science experiments, photographic assignments etc (and, as I explain below, it wasn't even written by NASA - it was written by a freelance author). The press conference took less than half an hour, and took place in between the sextant photography and the lunar eclipse photography (in fact it caused the crew to slightly miss the scheduled start time of the latter).

NASA are really hiding that press conference, aren't they:




I love how you make the leap of logic from "something is missing from one NASA document" to "the whole thing was a fake". To me, that raises a "red flag" over the state of your powers of logic.

SayonaraJupiter
Like when Richard W. Orloff forgot to include the Apollo 15 TV segments in his "official" NASA timeline publication SP-4029.
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Why would NASA leave the Apollo 15 TV press conference out of the timeline?

wait wait wait..

Richard W. Orloff IS Nasa???

choos

wait wait wait..

Richard W. Orloff IS Nasa???

You haven't been paying attention, have you? Richard M. Nixon is Nasa. And he didn't even remember to write a timeline at all.

On a serious note: SJ - you do realise who Orloff is? A freelance journalist/copywriter, contributor to the ALSJ and author of a book published by NASA. That's all. The timeline you are referring to is part of that book, Apollo by the Numbers: A Statistical Reference.

He even acknowledges in the intro to his book that, as a member of the public (ie not a NASA employee) he had to use the Freedom of Information Act to dig out some original documents.

Additionally, as time passed, typographical errors crept into some Apollo-related publications. In order to resolve these issues, the author turned to original documents, some of which were previously unavailable to the public, but were made available through the Freedom of Information Act.

From here


Here's his bio on the ALSJ page.

Here he is on LinkedIn. (All those lies and cover-ups make your hair go white, eh? ) Why not drop him a line and ask him why he didn't include the press conference?

I was reading an article about Richard Nixon the other day, specifically about his actions over Vietnam.

Do you know what, it didn't mention Apollo ONCE! Which means Apollo has been struck from the record or DIDN'T HAPPEN AT ALL

etc etc

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I think the hoaxers would have an easier time trying to prove the Vietnam War never happened

Rob48
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I think the hoaxers would have an easier time trying to prove the Vietnam War never happened

You can actually see the props, costumes and sets that were used to fake it if you take the Paramount Studio tour in El Ay. Can't say that about Apollo.

SayonaraJupiter

dragonridr

You really should see someone about your fixation with Nixon its bordering on psychotic. But hey maybe that was Nixons plan all along he wants you to think he faked the moon landing. Maybe when Nixon went to the moon he discovered Nazis were already there on several moon basses. And Nixon knew it be real expensive to fight vietnam and all those moon Nazis.Boy this is fun when you dont have to show any proof. But at least now we figured out the Nixon moon connection i wonder if Adolf managed to sneak up there makes you wonder if the Russians actually found his body.

It's not a fixation with Nixon. You seem to forget that RN was the president for every Apollo "moon" landing. That's a common problem with Apollo Defenders... they like to forget things that are so obvious... and they love to forgive NASA for all the problems in the Apollo Narratives...

Like when Richard W. Orloff forgot to include the Apollo 15 TV segments in his "official" NASA timeline publication SP-4029.

Would those be the segments broadcast on TV? Where the text was freely available in the transcripts and mission audio? See the words 'Press Conference'? Do those words translate somehow as 'Secret' for you?

SayonaraJupiter
Why would NASA leave the Apollo 15 TV press conference out of the timeline?

Oh no, not this again. Allow me to use this as a teachable moment. Moon Hoaxers use the same flawed methodology as other conspiracy theorists: using the wrong tools to shape their argument. In this case, an historical timeline written by a third party using a variety of primary sources is treated as a primary source. The author of the work in question is a single human being combing through hundreds, perhaps thousands of documents in an attempt organize them into a coherent whole. Human error is bound to occur. Moon Hoax theorists seize upon any error in this secondary source and claim that there is a contradiction that somehow shows the events being described cannot have happened.

Another misuse of documentation is to treat press releases as scientific documents. Press releases generally summarize things in broad, simple terms so that lay reporters can understand. Numbers are rounded. Minor technical details are omitted. Less 'glamorous' experiments are not mentioned. Moon Hoax theorists seize upon these documents to spot what they consider to be 'inconsistencies' or 'contradictions.' All they are really doing is noting how facts are presented to a general audience.

The Apollo 15 in flight press conference also demonstrates another Moon Hoax misuse of primary sources. Because nothing can be seen floating around the cabin, it is evidence that it was not broadcast from space. They then focus on this happenstance, while ignoring the hours of video and film showing objects floating around the cabin. They then follow up with the 'explaining the inexplicable' fallacy I mentioned earlier. They require an explanation for the lack of objects floating around beyond the obvious one. It cannot simply be that everything was stowed properly; it must be due to something else.

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Yeah, until Sibrel gets his Bible out....

seabhac-rua
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Yeah, until Sibrel gets his Bible out....

Hell, that's the only thing I'd tune in for!

*thwock*


Funny how Sibrel believes in the Big Book O' Myths without a shred of evidence, but dismisses a gigantic mountain of hard science in favour of Apollo. Says a lot about his intellect.

Rob48

seabhac-rua
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Yeah, until Sibrel gets his Bible out....

Hell, that's the only thing I'd tune in for!

*thwock*

Always worth seeing convicted criminal Bart Sibrel ask one stupid question too many:



Exactly what he deserved.

Rob48
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I think the hoaxers would have an easier time trying to prove the Vietnam War never happened

It didn't. If you look at this photo of a bomber flying over Vietnam the jungle is the WRONG COLOUR! Which means that it never happened.

And Nazis.

reply to post by Rob48

I love how you make the leap of logic from "something is missing from one NASA document" to "the whole thing was a fake". To me, that raises a "red flag" over the state of your powers of logic.

I didn't actually make that jump... you made it for me.

Orloff/NASA, in NASA SP-4029, omitted the Apollo 15 tv press conference at 270 (270 in the timeline) so that nobody would go looking for the video. As DJW pointed out there are no floating objects in that video and it's pretty impossible to prove that the video was recorded in 0g.

Jim Irwin said not just a "tame simulation"... he said "a VERY tame simulation". Lol. Maybe that's why NASA doesn't want people looking for that video. These Apollo 15 guys are stamp smugglers, they can't be trusted.


These are also the guys who put the Genesis Rock in Sample bag 196, but it wasn't in the bag when they opened it up back on Earth.

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Don't forget to mention that "the shadows are all wrong" in that Vietnam picture too.

We all know that "Full Metal Jacket" was Kubrick's way of telling the public that he faked the whole war in a sound studio somewhere.

SayonaraJupiter

dragonridr

You really should see someone about your fixation with Nixon its bordering on psychotic. But hey maybe that was Nixons plan all along he wants you to think he faked the moon landing. Maybe when Nixon went to the moon he discovered Nazis were already there on several moon basses. And Nixon knew it be real expensive to fight vietnam and all those moon Nazis.Boy this is fun when you dont have to show any proof. But at least now we figured out the Nixon moon connection i wonder if Adolf managed to sneak up there makes you wonder if the Russians actually found his body.

It's not a fixation with Nixon. You seem to forget that RN was the president for every Apollo "moon" landing. That's a common problem with Apollo Defenders... they like to forget things that are so obvious... and they love to forgive NASA for all the problems in the Apollo Narratives...

Like when Richard W. Orloff forgot to include the Apollo 15 TV segments in his "official" NASA timeline publication SP-4029.

Your quoting a timeline from a book by an author. Who put the book on NASAs website to generate sales.He even admits the timeline is incomplete but hes been updating it. If you want to write him and tell him its not in his book fell free to do so but it makes you look foolish trying to play this off as anything other than an author of a book missed it. See the timeline was from his book apollo by the numbers you will be happy to know he updates the online book. Heres his statement at the beginning.

WELCOME


This website is an update to the printed version of this NASA publication 2000-4029, Apollo By The Numbers: A Statistical Reference, published in the spring of 2001.

The printed version was produced four years after the research and writing had been completed. During that period, essentially no editing was done to the original manuscript. Following publication, the author received many compliments and comments, including suggestions for additional and updated information, corrections, format changes and recommendations for editing some text for clarity. All these suggestions have been incorporated into this website.

Even so, Apollo By The Numbers remains a living document. The author welcomes any suggestions for improving the information offered by this revised version of the published book.

Richard W. Orloff
June 2004

If you wish to educate yourself about Apollo since we all know you need that this books a good start glad you brought it up.Heres an online link so you dont have to buy it.

history.nasa.gov...

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So whats your point exactly astronauts are human and make mistakes? However to fake it would require NASA to be perfect so which is it NASA makes mistakes or they flawlessly planned and concealed a hoax. They cant be inept and have god like powers to manipulate heaven and earth like you claim. So which is it?