We Are Making A Difference ATS: Keep Up The Good Work!

As my post count has risen, I've come to realise that each star received symbolises thousands of people who have read my messages. I'm not always right and even when I am right, it isn't always new info but we all have our own spin of getting our point across and we all help contribute to change.

For the many thousands of posts and threads here, every reader can pass the message on and before you know it, millions, if not billions of people will have read or been told of something they may not have been aware of.

The entire system built by the 'elite' relies on compliance. The first step to overcoming the elite is to firstly accept something is wrong. There are many distractions to keep the masses compliant and the elite know this to be true more than anyone.

This is why being aware of our reality and spreading as much info as you can is essential because as soon as enough people realise something is wrong, then the 'people' can demand change.

One small example comes from the UK. The people are paying more and more yet the government wants to take street lighting away from us which is essential for road safety. Individually, we can moan about it but the only way to get the government to turn around is for the entire nation to turn around and say we are no longer prepared to put up with this and refuse to pay our road tax or whatever funding is linked to this plan. If we could all stand up together, then the government whose role is to serve the people in the first place, would have to give in and obey us.

So it is in this context that we at ATS and other similar sites, are really making a difference. We are contributing to a much larger spiritual evolution where people are questioning the world and collectively, once enough people are asking questions, change can be brought.

This is why the UN (which is increasingly observed as one of the main forces behind the NWO) wants to control the internet-

endoftheamericandream.com... illance

One of the fastest ways to ruin the Internet would be to put the United Nations in charge of it. Unfortunately, that is exactly what the United Nations wants. The United Nations is now pushing very hard for complete control over the Internet. A proposal that has the support of China, Russia, India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia and Iran would give control of the Internet to the UN’s International Telecommunication Union.

This is why governments all over the world are increasing the surveillance state- in the US they plan to have drones replace police cars by 2025-

rt.com...

Law enforcement agencies across the US are lining up to be among the first to use drones to serve and protect, but unmanned vehicles are likely to replace the traditional cop cruiser in just a few short years.

By 2025, those drones are predicted to take the place of the police patrol car as unmanned vehicles operated by cops are being considered a likely inclusion on our roads of tomorrow.

We're in a race, the elite want to keep us divided and apart because they fear us united. It is not a physical war, it is a spiritual war and something as basic as posting on ATS is making a difference- the sheer fact that your message can reach a few hundred people which can then branch out to thousands which then branches out to millions is testimony to this fact.



Once the world can collectively reach this stage, then what do the elite have left? By exposing how the elite keep us divided and in conflict, or more concerned with materialism and self, we are helping to break the mould that keeps this control system in place.

Just talking about this makes it all so obvious as to why the world is the way it is-

- music industry promotes nothing but sex, violence and greed- it weakens us spiritually

- the MSM news only reports child abuse, death, famine, all negative, fear related

Just those two things show how important it is for the elite to keep us down spiritually, as this prevents us coming together, so we need to keep up the good work ATS, share the info you find here with people you know, spread knowledge because the first step, the essential step in this spiritual conflict is awareness.

The only difference that ATS is making is in the spread and promotion of internet ignorance. The Op starts by talking about the significance of each and every star, have you seem the stuff that people star hardly making a difference.

If and I must stress the word IF (a very big IF) the NWO does exist I don’t think they worry about ATS, if they did they would shut this place down.

90% of the stuff posted on ATS these days is complete nonsense the 10% that is going to be of any significance gets lost amongst the trash that spams the boards, if they exist ATS must be a form of entertainment.

We, the members of ATS, only have ourselves to blame, it’s not the fault of the owners or the moderators who I think recently have actually been trying in vain to reduce the rubbish posted by members.

Is ATS making a difference to the world, yes, it’s helping to make the ignorant more ignorant.

I believe that we are more "contained" than you imagine, although your heart is in the right place. I would also suggest that this is a handy arena for the classification and categorization of "profiles" that couldn't possibly fail to go unnoticed.

Plus, what if "fear" and "distrust" is part of the game?

reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin


Oh come on, could you be any more negative?!!

Don't mind the trolls OP and the rest of you, I believe ATS is making a positive difference.
It might be a tiny little difference, but it's worth it.

Although we do end up with a lot of bad treads, I would like to thank everyone that's making an effort to bring information and knowledge to our community.

Keep it up ATS, don't let the bastards bring you down.

Great opining post Wonderer2012 .
I dont really have much to add except to say I agree totally and to emphasize the last few paragraphs.
They are spot on IMO.

- music industry promotes nothing but sex, violence and greed- it weakens us spiritually

Ever heard of Def Jam? or, Nas?

How about Universal Music Group?
en.wikipedia.org...

Universal Music Group (UMG) is a major global music company owned by French media conglomerate Vivendi. It is the largest of the big three music companies.

Who owns who?

I'm fairly certain that the artist Nas completely destroys your claim...

Sly Fox lyrics

So we look at what's goin’ on, this as an extreme aggression, um I'm also hearin’ about it from everywhere It's, it's in the islands, it's on the continent, it's here, it's everywhere And this is, if you will, a war, an all out assault by
The sly fox, Cyclops, we locked in the idiot box The video slots broadcast The Waco Davidian plots They own YouTube, Myspace When this ignorant **** gon' stop?
They monopolizin’ news, your views And the channel you choose Propaganda, visual cancer, the eye in the sky Number five on the dial, secret agenda
Frequency antenna, doctor mind bender Remote control, soul controller, your brain holder Slave culture, game's over What's a Fox characteristic?
Slick ****, sensin' misinformation Pimp the station, over stimulation Reception, deception Comcast digital Satan The Fox has a bushy tail and Bush tells lies and Fox trots So I don't know what's real
Watch what you watchin', Fox keeps feedin’ us toxins Stop sleepin’, start thinkin’ outside of the box And unplug from The Matrix doctrine But watch what you say, Big Brother is watchin'
Watch what you watchin', Fox keeps feedin’ us toxins Stop sleepin’, start thinkin’ outside of the box And unplug from The Matrix doctrine But watch what you say, Fox 5 is watchin'
The Fear Factor got you all rattled up O' Reilly, oh really? No rally needed, I'll tie you up Network for child predators, settin' 'em up Myspace pimps, hoes, and sluts
Y'all exploit rap culture, then y'all flip on us And you own the post and y'all # on us What is they net worth? They gon' try to censor my next verse? Throw 'em off the roof neck first
While I'm clickin’ my cursor Readin’ blogs about the pressure they put on Universal It gets worse while I'm clickin’ my mouse While they kickin' my house
They figured us out why a ***** go south It's either he caught a body, no sleep, they watchin' I watch CBS and I see B.S., tryin' to track us down with GPS Make a ***** wanna invest in PBS
Watch what you watchin', Fox keeps feedin’ us toxins Stop sleepin’, start thinkin’ outside of the box And unplug from The Matrix doctrine But watch what you say, Big Brother is watchin'
Watch what you watchin', Fox keeps feedin’ us toxins Stop sleepin’, start thinkin’ outside of the box And unplug from The Matrix doctrine But watch what you say, Fox 5 is watchin'
They say I'm all about murder-murder and kill-kill But what about Grindhouse and Kill Bill? What about Cheney and Halliburton? The backdoor deals on oil fields How's Nas the most violent person?
Y'all don't know talent if it hit you Bringin' up my criminal possession charges with a pistol I use Viacom as my firearm and let the lyrics split you Who do you rely upon? They shoot shells at Leviathan
I'm dealin’ with the higher form ****, if you care how I write a poem? Only Fox that I love was the red one Only black man that Fox loves is in jail or a dead one
Red rum, political bedlam Don't let the hype into your eyes and ear drum Murdoch own Fox, not 18 with Barracas And he hate Barack ‘cause he march with the marchers
I pledge allegiance to the fair and balanced truth Not the biased truth, not the liar's truth but the highest truth I will not be deceived nor will I believe in the propaganda I will not fall for the Okey-Doke, I am tuned in
Watch ‘cause they're watchin’ Watch what you're watchin’
Better watch ‘cause they're watchin’ Watch what you're watchin’
Me-me-me-media misleadin’ ya Watch what you're watchin’
So, Mr. Jones I understand you’ve been experiencing some frustration My guess, maybe post-traumatic stress Even post-traumatic slave syndrome Why don’t we begin this session by letting you talk it out? Just talk

Even fox news spent a half hour discussing media bias and slanting the reality of the middle east...

Nothing is ever what it seems lol.

Or is it...

to further express my point:

"I Can" Nas

If the truth is told, the youth can grow
Then learn to survive until they gain control
Nobody says you have to be gangstas, hoes
Read more learn more, change the globe
Ghetto children, do your thing
Hold your head up, little man, you're a king
Young Princess when you get your wedding ring
Your man is saying "She's my queen"

But you're right, "- music industry promotes nothing but sex, violence and greed- it weakens us spiritually "

SAD!!!

reply to post by theMediator

You know what cracks me up? Invariably, the people complaining about the 90% / 10% split between quality and trash put themselves in the 10% that is above all that. Never seems to fail. I think the MAJORITY would tend to put the people making the comparison in the 90% as poster boys to the problem, but that's aside the way it seems to work for how people view themselves while tearing down everyone else. I even wonder sometimes why those who tear down their fellow members so casually come here at all? One of life's little mysteries I guess.

@ OP

Great Thread OP! It's something to start the thinking. We don't agree on everything, to be sure....but that just adds to the wealth and depth of what is being discussed and read by everyone else, right? Without disagreement, no one would run off to get source material and explore issues so far sometimes, it's almost absurd. It's always educational when the major contributors (those who do source everything) get into a thing and really open the limits of the material available.

I also notice the stats on the Forum page from time to time. For every member logged in at any given moment, there are 3-10 lurkers also on and just reading. I thin you make a powerful point here and it DOES matter IMO. We'll never know how we may touch the thoughts or lives of others....just that we do. For better or worse and in real life as well as online...our smallest and least considered action in a day can be the major thing someone ELSE recalls and carries with them for whatever reason. Yes, indeed..you've made a great thread to think about more. !

I really like your optimism, and you've put together a well-written post. It irks me though that the general public seems to throw around labels like "conspiracy theorist", "UFO buff", and the like any time something is spoken that isn't considered "main stream". These labels seem to carry such a negative connotation, and is a quick and easy way to dis-credit whoever is suggesting that you attempt to rub 2 brain cells together to think. I'd like to think as you do, that we're making a difference, but the masses generally want to do their 9-5, fantasize about being big-ballers, watch football, drink beer, then repeat the cycle. The sense of wonderment, curiosity about power structures and the unknown, and theory-crafting about life are virtually non-existant in most circles. Thinking and effort are endangered species in our "comfortable" culture.

reply to post by Wonderer2012


Well said, we may indeed have a chance after all.....

But i doubt...


SS

I have to wonder if anything will stop this freak show, much less turn it round...................
I sure hope so, and do my best most of the time to give things a boot in the right direction, but it is such a monumental task.
The story of the monkeys is all that keeps me going these days.....
here it is.............

Ona desert island, there were a tribe of monkeys.....they were being decimated slowly by disease....
The scientists watching this going on, thought why not try to change it?
So they started to teach some of the monkeys how to wash their food......
They then set the monkeys free and waited...
Soon they observed the monkeys interacting with the rest, and some of the tribe got introduced to this.....
The monkeys they released taught other monkeys how to wash their food the surprise came shortly thereafter....
long before the whole group was shown how, they all started to wash their food.
This illustrates the %ercentage it takes to change a paradime, not all the monkeys had to be shown directly,
but when a certain %age was shown, they all suddenly knew how to do this.....
Hopefully humanity also reacts to new things thusly....and the number required to smarten the race up is only a %age of the whole......

I like to agree with we have lost our sense of spirit/wonder/awareness. And I think a lot of that has to do with a covering of the night sky.

I have been fortunate enough to stare at that sky from a mountain top in Kauai. And I am still stunned at it. The sense of scale . A sense wonder. Its what has driven us as a species . Why else would the first thing we emerge with from prehistory is an atlas of the sky?

So i say stuff the night lights .

I have to say, I'm fairly new to ATS and it is becoming increasingly clear to me that this is a site to bash each other and see who can insult the other more...it doesn't matter if what you have to say is true and have proof, your still gonna get your ass kicked.

Originally posted by Wonderer2012

This is why being aware of our reality and spreading as much info as you can is essential because as soon as enough people realise something is wrong, then the 'people' can demand change.

Cautionary note -> We must at all times not fall into the trap of "group think". Each item for discussion must be observed objectively and we have to watch out for bias thoughts. Hence, evidence based arguments prevail over belief system arguments.

reply to post by Meldionne1

If I can say something on this that I think is real important to note in hearing you say that.... especially as a new person. (sigh of depression)

I haven't been at ATS forever. Seniority wise, to whatever extent that even matters, I'm kinda green around the edges and still learning what all the doors open to around here. I have high numbers on my mini- but that only means I have as much free time as I do work and college and it's a safe bet that I'm entirely focused on computers for work with multiple-monitors. (Which I am...several of them, with ATS in a corner of one of them much of the time to watch for breaking items).

Having said the above as a sort of disclaimer, ATS is what we make it. Literally. It's as good as we make it or as bad as we make it....and it's 100% entirely up to us. The owners and top Admin create the framework we all debate, share and enjoy ourselves in.....but unlike almost all other sites, they do nothing more. Nothing more at all. Everything else is 100% member driven and created.

So....when good members take breaks in numbers, content quality can drop noticeably. If good folks leave altogether...it can be long term....and some hope it isn't at the moment, indeed.


The purpose of taking a moment to write this though is to note that you, as even a new user, can have a 100+ flag and 100+ star OP type thread people are telling others to come check out and read. No reason you can't and I for one don't even look at the Mini- and OP name prior to at least skimming the OP content and seeing if it's good. (Unless the Avatar stands out of course)

So being new or unknown won't stop great content and stories from being appreciated. When you and others thinking as you are do write great threads....you'll be amazed at how much appreciation *IS* shown...not necessarily out on the thread and in public either. It's not something I can really describe. When you make a great one and people respond. It makes it worth making more though, I can say that.

Of course, the flip side is..........if members simply imagine great threads to write and never actually make them, what IS written is ....space filler....and so much of that lately.

Originally posted by Meldionne1
it doesn't matter if what you have to say is true and have proof, your still gonna get your ass kicked.

Wanna bet?

If that's what happens to you then you might want to stop getting into fights. Unless you LIKE getting your ass kicked. Just state your case, take a few jabs, and move on. That's how you're make the positive change the OP is talking about anyway.

The best changes don't come from a stampede of horses. They come from that little, unseen field mouse in the middle of it all that trips all the horses up.

OP. You might want to get off your star and flag kick. Start talking to some of these posters offline and you'll see what I'm talking about. Popularity contests don't instigate change. Things that make sense do, and in this day and age, online or off, what makes sense isn't very popular.

Nice thread. I like threads that quickly bring out the Govt. watchers.

P

reply to post by Wonderer2012


I have been on this kick all day. Two fellow posters of this site have sent me messages today thanking me for posting here and helping them explore their thoughts...

I HAVE changed peoples lives by posting here, and I HAVE been changed by reading and writing here as well. Here is one reality so you know I am not just saying words. MamaJ.. We had many posts and responses and PMs... She was one of the first internet people to really understand my entire game... She taught me a lot in not so many words... Our interaction changed my view of all the rest of this community even.

I am also noticing that my viewpoints which are not picked up by the mainstream are being picked up more and more every day I post here. You can look at my post history and see that I don't have "normal" thoughts about reality, and about the world, and yet you will also see my stars...

I AM bringing and expanding Consciousness, and to me, that is THE game.

I Love ATS.

reply to post by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS


Thanks for that, I'm a fan of NAS. I only have a couple of his albums though, this was a new one to me. People need to know that not all hip-hop is murder, death, kill. Star for you.

reply to post by Wonderer2012


You start by saying that what each person does matters, and then end up claiming like, MLK, that people must give up their individualism, and be part of a collective to win against the NWO?... Heck, giving up individualism, and being part of a collective is EXACTLY what the world elites/aka NWO want people to do... The question remains, are you actually part of the NWO, claiming not to be, to get more people "give up their individualism for the collective"?... Or are you just that naive that you can't see that "giving up individualism for the collective" ALWAYS leads to dictatorship?...

I see you using SEVERAL tactics used by the elites, and those working for the NWO have used in the past and are using in the present...

First, you proclaim/imply that everyone who follows your plan is "making a difference and a light against the shadow of the NWO"...

Second, throughout this thread/post of yours you try to imply that individualism = being divided, which has been a nice way for the elites in the past to make "the naive masses give away their individual rights for the good of the collective" allowing for the implementation of dictatorships all around the world...

Third, you use an iconic figure, who sorry to say was wrong in quite a few things, but who is viewed by many as "a hero for the low man" when in fact this particular view of his to give up individualism would not only take away our individual rights, but once you take away "individual rights" you are in fact taking away the rights of EVERYONE... At least everyone who is not part of the elite...

You see, MLK was wrong, and you are wrong about individualism being bad, if you are not in fact "working for the elites disguising yourself as trying to fight for the people." People can KEEP their individual rights, and their INDIVIDUALISM, there is no shame in knowing we all are DIFFERENT, and have DIFFERENT ideas, views, beliefs, etc, and still working as much as we can together as long as our individualism/individual rights are not threatened...

Once enough people come to realize that we can work together without giving away our individualism or our individual rights, not only will the world become a better place, but people will grow as spiritual beings and we will finally be able to do some things together in a practical way...

reply to post by Wonderer2012


I think we do make some kind of difference all though how much is difficult to tell.

But just suppose some of the things we talk about here, might get through to some of TPTB and they know that we know, Sounds farfetched, but even the farfetched might have a modicum of truth in it.