Quantum Physics And Decemeber 21, 2012 A Different Kind Of Thread

This is not a new idea and has been discussed many times on this website and many others.
I fully agree with the premise however.....

I am of the opinion that this will be a very personal event which will effect each of us differently.
Those who are bound and determined to live a life full of fear and negativity will see their reality shift into one which suits them.

People who are "luke warm" and are totally indifferent to the world around them will see their reality shift to one which suits them.

Those who are ready to live a life of service to others are going to see their reality shift to one that suits them.

Everyone wins in a sense.
You will wind up precisely where you NEED and insisted upon being.

Fear. How can one create fear? By spreading a story like Y2K and now the doomsday. There was a doomsday a while ago also where everyone sorta went into a coma trying to find ways to beat it, and so it will be now. These doomsday stories are something used by human powers of be to scare people into fear so that they can be controlled, for these human powers that rule know how the human mind word (they have studied it intensily over last few years) and which images to use to scare them into submission so that the human powers that rule can have their way.

Their is talk of Conscious doorways, planets or asteroids hitting us, the sun exploding on us, judgement days, H-bomb war and so on, and I get the feeling that people are afraid of the coming era so they divise these incredible plans to calm themselves for in their fear they are happy and that is what the human powers that rule use. We create the opportunity for those powers to control us.

To me it will be just another day like 10/10/2010 and 11/11/2011 and and and...... I believe we are entering a more conscious time, a time where we will see a new type of human being been born, where humans will start to reconnect with creation and enlightened thought. I see we will be ridding ourselves of that which clutter us and keep us from being a complete spiritual and magical being. Maybe that is what the Mayans saw - that we as a human race in our stupidity will cease to exist and a more free enlightened intelligent race will emerge - for those that except this change. Sad that we see so many still clinging to the old ways of fear and hatred and separation for others and the Divine as the order of the day rather then connecting with the free spirit of the Divinely content.
Sad that these doomsday stories has more to do with money and power absorbing humans than with the human race itself.
I feel the time for the human powers that rule is fast coming to an end because of our conscious link with each other which is growing. Although there is only a small community now who is shedding the fear of the fearful and unknown, more in the coming age will embrace creation and humankind consciousness as a whole like the ancients reconnecting with the Divine spirit in everything achieving new heights in existance which do not need all these human powers to be.

And if the world is to end on that specific day with natural disaster - wow One up for you Mayans! If the world end by Human touch then I rest my case by saying stupidity won!

Originally posted by TheProphetMark

Originally posted by Wintchman11
reply to post by LesMisanthrope

 

But it still has the ability to influence, does it not?

Correct.

Wrong!

There are a lot of people who go around, with needles and stick into dolls. That's proof of how low the IQ of some people are ...

No matter how many people in Church pray for anything, they're not going to affect that single cell in your eye, that needs to be stimulated, to rebuild your sight. No matter how much you want to, you cannot communicate with this cell ...

the smart thing to do, sould instead of wasting time in prayers, actually go about and help scientific research in nano-technology, so that we can create an alternative method of sight. We're on the brink, of being able to replace the eye, with mechanical pieces. Robotic arms, that move like your own, are now a reality ...

Put your weight behind what we can do ....

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Interesting theory but I think if the "quantum brain" is real, it would be far too chaotic for humans too utilize. For example, ants have been around alot longer than us, so presumably the rules aply to animals aswell, maybe even plant life. So unless the ants, (who have more mass than all the humans) are bothered, its not going to matter much what we think.

There is a good group (I am not affiliated with it) on FB called Quantum Physics. There is a good thread on this but I couldn't find it, This (Facebook group thread) touches on it.


If thought has an effect on quantum mechanics, we will need to find out what schrodinger's cat thinks about all this

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On Dec 21st, 2012 NASA will say what history altering news they have found....would be a great way to give them a bunch of hype..just my prediction.

While Dr. Emoto's studies have been met with controversy, I think there has to be some truth within them. His work supports the idea that our thoughts affect the shape of water molecules. While it doesn't address the OP directly, it gives some support to the notion that quantum physics/mechanics could play a role on Dec. 21st. There is evidence that our thoughts can alter our physical reality.

Here is some of Dr. Emoto's work.

You can find a lot more about this sort of thing if you just dig a little bit.

Originally posted by TheProphetMark
It started within the last couple of weeks; before that, 2012 threads would pop up every now and then but now it seems to be every day sometimes even more than once a day. That's okay but we're only weeks away from the infamous date and people are wanting answers and asking questions and it's going to get escalate as we get closer and closer to December, 21, 2012. I'm going to present to you, a different kind of thread unlike all the others and I'll be quite interested in seeing what members of ATS have to say on this topic. Pardon my bad grammar, it's been a long day so here we go.

I created this thread to present a different perspective. One that may have not been thought of yet. At least not as far as I know because I have yet to see a thread on it. It isn't about the end of the world, nor is it about nothing happening since this thread isn't about either one of them but rather to present a different point of view involving Quantum Physics.

It doesn't matter what I believe will happen on December 21, 2012 but I will tell you that I am in fact a believer and also a skeptic and it doesn't matter to me if nothing were to ever happen on that day or not but I can't help but feel for the most part of me, actually believes something big, or biblical will actually take place on the infamous date. I didn't come here to talk about what I believe but to talk about Humanity as a whole, as a collective somehow manifesting reality through our own thoughts.

If hundreds of millions of people believe that the end of the world is on December 21, 2012 will they be the reason it happened if it did? If hundreds of millions of people believe there will be an enlightening, will it happen? If hundreds of millions of people believe that it will be just another day will it happen? It seems that all these thoughts and emotions will be put at battle with each other on December 21, 2012 so who really knows who what will happen and I'm thankful we're only weeks away from the infamous date because I've been waiting a long time now for it.

Our thoughts are linked to this invisible energy and they determine what the energy forms. Your thoughts literally shift the universe on a particle-by-particle basis to create your physical life.

Everything you see in our physical world started as an idea, an idea that grew as it was shared and expressed, until it grew enough into a physical object through a number of steps.

Quantum physics shows us that the world is not the hard and unchangeable thing it may appear to be. Instead, it is a very fluid place continuously built up using our individual and collective thoughts.

Thoughts?

For all I know, the infamous date could be our destiny, one that many other civilization before us has failed. What if we're given the chance as a collective, as a whole to determine the outcome of our fate whether we deserve to continue on or not or to burn completely and start all over again? It seems that there are several people who believe the World could use a cleansing so you never know, you just might get your wish but Truth be told, I believe we failed as a society and I wouldn't be surprised if we were to start all over again because we truly lost touch with our spiritual side, well most of us anyways.

Source

So much misinformation in the source you link to... and extreme leaps of logic... meh to this whole thread.

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That sounds interesting. Do you have more of that stuff?

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Now that is definitely a REALLY new perspective. TPTB using the 12/21-meme to cover up their power operations.

I am kind of shocked. Anybody thinks this is reasonable?

Originally posted by consolution
reply to post by MARKjAUSTIN

 

Now that is definitely a REALLY new perspective. TPTB using the 12/21-meme to cover up their power operations.

I am kind of shocked. Anybody thinks this is reasonable?

Not in the least.

All reality came from thought. This keyboard you are typing on was first someones thought then it became a real object.
However it is not instant. Thoughts manifest into reality over a little time first.

As stated already my only concern is millions of people thinking the same thing at the same time causing an acceleration of manifestation.

None of us know what is going to happen or not happen.

Nothing can be done except for you and your own reality.

I recommend take the day off. Turn your TV and radio off. Enjoy a glass of wine. Listen to music. Maybe have some sex. Or meditate. Put yourself in a good state of mind and do not get consumed with the rest of the world.

Originally posted by PurpleVortex
Ok I'll bite.I believe collectively we have no control over this day, because this day is DESTINED for something to happen or nothing whatsoever. This is not one of those cases were a bunch of people think about a certain outcome and bam they manifest it. This is BIGGER than our collective thoughts. I'm definitely open minded about 12/21/12 and whatever might happen and I'm going to be super sober just in case I get picked up by the mother ship

I remember someone posting the ascension study guide and I decided to take a look at it just for the fun of it. It says

several hours before the planetary shift you will begin to witness a shift or a change in your mental, physical, and a emotional bodies. You will also certainly observe a visual phenomena. This occurs when the two dimensional planes begin to eclipse each other. You will know that the shift is close, because you will begin to see different colored objects appear and disappear around you. You will see different configurations of light frequencies that you have never seen before. You will see shades of colors that are brilliant and much brighter. All the space around will begin to change and warp into different shapes and colors. Our consciousness is connected to the magnetosphere, and when the planet starts to shift across to the next dimension, the planets magnetosphere begins to shift into the new dimensional frequency band. That will result in the visual phenomena.

Sounds like an epic acid trip huh...Well, i don't know. But you now know what to look out for.

reply to post by PlanetxIsComing
I loved your post pv, and I too have seen a couple of sources with the same information stating that everything that is man made will disappear and that when you start to see this taking place you must go and stand on the natural earth to be safe, I must say I'm looking forward to the trip too and it will be a wonderful goldne age.

Peace to all of us may god be with us all.

Originally posted by longlostbrother

Originally posted by TheProphetMark
It started within the last couple of weeks; before that, 2012 threads would pop up every now and then but now it seems to be every day sometimes even more than once a day. That's okay but we're only weeks away from the infamous date and people are wanting answers and asking questions and it's going to get escalate as we get closer and closer to December, 21, 2012. I'm going to present to you, a different kind of thread unlike all the others and I'll be quite interested in seeing what members of ATS have to say on this topic. Pardon my bad grammar, it's been a long day so here we go.

I created this thread to present a different perspective. One that may have not been thought of yet. At least not as far as I know because I have yet to see a thread on it. It isn't about the end of the world, nor is it about nothing happening since this thread isn't about either one of them but rather to present a different point of view involving Quantum Physics.

It doesn't matter what I believe will happen on December 21, 2012 but I will tell you that I am in fact a believer and also a skeptic and it doesn't matter to me if nothing were to ever happen on that day or not but I can't help but feel for the most part of me, actually believes something big, or biblical will actually take place on the infamous date. I didn't come here to talk about what I believe but to talk about Humanity as a whole, as a collective somehow manifesting reality through our own thoughts.

If hundreds of millions of people believe that the end of the world is on December 21, 2012 will they be the reason it happened if it did? If hundreds of millions of people believe there will be an enlightening, will it happen? If hundreds of millions of people believe that it will be just another day will it happen? It seems that all these thoughts and emotions will be put at battle with each other on December 21, 2012 so who really knows who what will happen and I'm thankful we're only weeks away from the infamous date because I've been waiting a long time now for it.

Our thoughts are linked to this invisible energy and they determine what the energy forms. Your thoughts literally shift the universe on a particle-by-particle basis to create your physical life.

Everything you see in our physical world started as an idea, an idea that grew as it was shared and expressed, until it grew enough into a physical object through a number of steps.

Quantum physics shows us that the world is not the hard and unchangeable thing it may appear to be. Instead, it is a very fluid place continuously built up using our individual and collective thoughts.

Thoughts?

For all I know, the infamous date could be our destiny, one that many other civilization before us has failed. What if we're given the chance as a collective, as a whole to determine the outcome of our fate whether we deserve to continue on or not or to burn completely and start all over again? It seems that there are several people who believe the World could use a cleansing so you never know, you just might get your wish but Truth be told, I believe we failed as a society and I wouldn't be surprised if we were to start all over again because we truly lost touch with our spiritual side, well most of us anyways.

Source

So much misinformation in the source you link to... and extreme leaps of logic... meh to this whole thread.

The source I used is just a source to jump start my thinking and that's how I thought of that I did and used it to explain my point better. Still doesn't discredit all the other information other members are providing about other research conducted on how our consciousness and thoughts as a collective can affect our reality. The point is still the same regardless of the source I used.

Instead of reading my OP alone, you should take the time to read the other material members presented as there are other information in this thread that I never even knew about prior to creating this thread. Still shouldn't discredit the point I'm trying to make but still take it with a grain of sand because with everything I'm seeing what people are posting, it's certainly something worth looking into.

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for all the material you've shared. I've enjoyed reading new material that goes along with that point I'm trying to make in this thread to give us something different to talk about other then the normal typical 2012 doomsday theories.

I must say the timing of your post is incredible in my life stream (if you will.) I agree totally that Collective Thought manifest faster and more accurately than individual thought, at least in terms of group experiences, though one must be careful to assume too much, as seen in Hitler’s movement. In that we saw one man rise to power, apparently, without much aid from a social devise or condition (though this is debatable.)

At any rate there is one point I will want to make here and that is that when social manifestation comes into play it appears, through history, that the negative aspects carry far more weight than the positive ones. All wars were preceded by a period of social unrest or over confidence and now we have come to a time where we do not even comprehend the state of warfare as all other social structures did in the past, as there was a war “in the making” every few years, leaving no generation without the condition as we have now, since WWII.

So as you posted, there are so many theories out there, which one will take hold. I believe that it is not the 50 + 1 % that will win out but, rather the strongest and most engaging emotional connection (usually the negative) that will play. Durkheim, Social Creatives

For those who question if thought creates a reality I have only this to say. There was once a time when cities did not exist, now there are many and social conditions are changing so rapidly that new housing projects have to make room for those wishing to escape the cities. Consciousness always creates and dictates the conditions in which we live. This is my personal belief so there is no post to support it except that which is found above.

Thank you so much for posting this thread. It is great and refreshing. I hope with all my faculties that the time of change coming (which I do not believe is a certain date and time but, more the date and time indicate that the road has no more possible bends to avoid a changes.) And I hope and feel that our journey is towards a future where we can all exist together with our higher power among us making the word of that higher power just that, a word.

Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
Your source says that objects are made of thought which isn't true.

No matter how many people pray or will something to happen it won't and it doesn't.

It IS bloody true! the first tenant of quantum mechanics is that atoms are not things, but tendancies!

There is NOTHING solid about matter. it is indeed much more like a thought than it is a thing. Particles respond to observation, nuclei of atoms exist in multitudes of places, and snap in place when observed...

Things are made of electrical impulses... Exactly as are thoughts. The world of "things" is illusory... reality is but possible waves of consciousness. Youre on this site enough... You should know this!

I agree that this idea is a possibility for an apocalypse: we are all related, therefore we are likely to all share a collective consciousness, as well as that there is also the theories of astral projection, karma and other mysteries that have been acknowledged, but not yet proven, by man. Although there is speculation and interesting correlations within of these ideas about life, there is simply no way of proving it due to the fact that we cannot necessarily prove the idea of a collective consciousness. A theory can only be a theory unless it is proved, therefore it might be unwise to believe in it definitely.

Just a continuation of my previous post. This came in today while reading your post or just a little after.

Not the end of the world but, the beginning of the Whole-World

So timely as I said before and now in many more ways.

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Actually, you'd be surprised what you could do by staring into a candle flame under the right circumstances.

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Fortunately for those of us on the internet, your opinion isn't the only one that matters. So don't get too wrapped up in your subjective reality.