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Originally posted by LoveisanArt
Once again for those who havent read... Im leaving for Alberta tonight, I have some more packing the truck etc to do.. then a 2-3day drive out west. Dont have anymore time for the thread, learned enough about human ignorance though
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by LoveisanArt
If it is not known, how can you say it does not exist? Hence the entire point of the thread..
Fifteen pages later and you still refuse to understand the answer you have asked for. Not one skeptic on this thread has said that "aliens do not exist." Some have even gone so far as to state that the existence of extraterrestrial life is a statistical certainty. Your entire thread is based on a misunderstanding of the difference between belief and knowledge. At this point, it is beginning to look like a willful misunderstanding.
Skepticism is an attitude, not a belief. It embraces methodologies like critical thinking, logic and the scientific method to arrive at knowledge. Belief is founded on an unquestioning acceptance of another's authority or simple wish fulfillment. It does not result in knowledge.
Originally posted by Druscilla
Two words:
Empirical Evidence
Show us some Empirical data that any of this stuff is true, and we'll happily line up.
Originally posted by LoveisanArt
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
reply to post by LoveisanArt
There is no doubt our minds have different capabilties;
I believe we all have the same potential
So which is it? Both quotes from your posts I believe are speaking of the mind so do we have the same potential? or are some capabilities limited in some and not others?
Are you serious...-.- Maybe side with your sarcasm, and your logic mind might be able to squirt some intelligence on ya..
DIFFERENT CAPABILITIES - telepathy, telekinsis, foresight, energetic reading (psychic)
We are all operating at different levels, we seek different things with our individual minds. We all have the capacity mentally to learn these abilities. Some learn quicker then others, some never learn at all.. but we have the same potenial to develop the same mental abilities. Some might be stronger and more developed then others.
Physically some people grow faster and healthier then others. Some people are athletic, others couldnt run for the life of 'em.
The mental reality is the same reflection as the physical..
How did you not understand this with those two seperate sentences?
Originally posted by stanislav
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
reply to post by LoveisanArt
There is no doubt our minds have different capabilties;
I believe we all have the same potential
So which is it? Both quotes from your posts I believe are speaking of the mind so do we have the same potential? or are some capabilities limited in some and not others?
Hahaha she makes ZERO SENSE. Like I said this many times before, DELUSIONAL people do not and cannot make any sense at any time of day, hour, minute. Being delusional is like being drunk. Your common sense and logic is thrown straight out of the window so anything or anyone that does not conform to your views is deemed by them as ignorant. Everyone becomes your enemy UNLESS THEY BELIEVE YOU.edit on 26-11-2012 by stanislav because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by miniatus
Originally posted by Druscilla
Two words:
Empirical Evidence
Show us some Empirical data that any of this stuff is true, and we'll happily line up.
Pretty much summed up my thoughts on the matter... The burden of proof is on those that make such a claim..
A similar argument would be if I were a die hard believer in the easter bunny and I asked people to prove that he doesn't exist.. no, it would be on me then to prove with empirical evidence that he exists... there's a big difference between empirical and circumstantial evidence... People tend to jump so quickly to "ooh, I see something I don't understand in the sky! .. therefore, Aliens!"
You see it in every topic... Ooh, a weird hairless looking thing in mexico.. CHUPACABRA! .. or .. Contrails in the sky... MIND ALTERING CHEMTRAILS!edit on 11/26/2012 by miniatus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
To those that don't believe in extraterrestrial life being a possibility, verbally attacking others and throwing random accusations and presumptions whilst wearing your blinkers really just makes your posts look like asinine rants from trolls. If you don't want to be accused of trolling then try to avoid trolling tactics.
Originally posted by LoveisanArt
Again off topic.. "DENY IGNORANCE" seriously Ats?? Thats your motto? How ironic..
First off aliens are not a human created thing; we suggest humans create everything the universe operates for us... this is MORE ignorance and arrogance! Where ar eyou going to get in the universe with that mentality as a species?
You have NO idea what your talking about, this is nothing to do with guessing whats in the sky and instantly labelling it alien.. we are ALL skeptical in nature, we all observe and judge things the same way. Our brains ALL have the same capacity; the ONLY difference among men and women of Earth is there MINDS and how they operate, how they perceive the space and existence around them..
**Jump on science's bandwagon, progress intellectually at the same rate as those making your science happen**
Or think for yourselves and take control over your minds.. hmm one day
Originally posted by bottleslingguy
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
Have you even tried?
I'll tell you I have and there sure are a lot of some really willfully ignorant people out there. Even here I have been told they would bring my evidence to a professional digital expert. Then after a few weeks I asked if there was any progress with no reply until I asked again a little later and got this response like I just kicked this guy's dog and he was all like "Oh he doesn't have time for this" and blows it off. I have a couple good seconds of footage and three stills and the guy acts like I'm being a pain in the ass for asking for a closer examination. You know something a little more than a compressed video on the internet. I haven't heard once yet of anybody watching my footage on a large screen tv and just with slow motion you can clearly see this object is not what people are saying it is.
My point is it really doesn't matter if you believe what I saw or anybody who claims to has seen, I think those moments are for the individual who is witnessing the event. There may be a reason why some people never see them.
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
Originally posted by stanislav
How is your age and life experience have anything to do with what I just said to you in my other post? I have experienced first hand alien abduction, astral projection, sleep paralysis, shadow beings and a whole lot of paranormal activities throughout my childhood till this day. So what ??? I can tell you with all honesty that even though I have had all of the above and more, I cannot say without a doubt that any of these was real. There is literally no proof of it other than my own subjective testimony. Personal experience is VERY subjective. For all I know it could have all been nothing more than my imagination, delusions, wishful thinking etc ... So when I speak about people like you and OP being delusional it is because I know this from FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE.
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
reply to post by stanislav
I am 41 years old, I have believed in extraterrestrial life since a child due to experiences. I didn't watch many sci fi movies as a child and didn't believe in it as true. Studying physics as a teenager, as well as religions and spiritual things has confirmed my belief, as well as my studies as an adult. You tube only became known to me within the last 8 years and trust me, most of the alien videos on there are nonsense and I don't believe David Icke or Sitchin nor the galactic federaton of light and such.
I am well educated, I make intelligent judgments, I also have a lot of life experience which confirms my beliefs, as do the stats.
You accused me of getting my beliefs from youtube.
Yet again, go back and read my post instead of presuming things I didn't say. Wasting my time arguing things I didn't say is pointless so go back and point out something specific you don't agree to and read my words in context.
I dont NEED evidence.. before the past 50 years no one required evidence you ignorant moron. Humans share stories through means of vocals, thank our memory banks for storing this information.. Nowadays you all want pictures, videos of SPACESHIPS AND ALIENS! ARE YOU SREIOUS? And I look dumb? You people are soo lost from the truth. My mind is obviously more developed then most of the posters, posting here. You CANNOT believe in the existence of something until you have a picture of video of it?
And I look dumb?
WHATEVER DUDE! Millions and millions are experiencing this 'phenomena'Its all coming soon enough.
Well said! I think she is indeed, if not crazy is most likely DELUSIONAL. I am sure you will agree, there are a lot of delusional people on conspiracy forums. Ever wonder why? Why paranormal subjects always attract mentally unstable individuals? Con artists? Scam artists? Must I continue? One of the easiest explanations, because in order to talk about the paranormal subjects we are not require to provide any proof. Imagine if a scientist was to claim he found higgs boson partial in his laboratory. Would it be fair to ask him him to present public or scientific community for evidence such as scientific data . Sure it will be. Be here comes so crazy lady to this forum and claims she has nightly contact with extra terrestrial beings or Jesus or God or Demons or Devils and then gets UPSET and calls everyone sheep and blind because we apparently do not believe her.
Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by stanislav
Well said! I think she is indeed, if not crazy is most likely DELUSIONAL. I am sure you will agree, there are a lot of delusional people on conspiracy forums. Ever wonder why? Why paranormal subjects always attract mentally unstable individuals? Con artists? Scam artists? Must I continue? One of the easiest explanations, because in order to talk about the paranormal subjects we are not require to provide any proof. Imagine if a scientist was to claim he found higgs boson partial in his laboratory. Would it be fair to ask him him to present public or scientific community for evidence such as scientific data . Sure it will be. Be here comes so crazy lady to this forum and claims she has nightly contact with extra terrestrial beings or Jesus or God or Demons or Devils and then gets UPSET and calls everyone sheep and blind because we apparently do not believe her.
OK, reading this thread and seeing agenda. I don't actually have the belief that most people are skeptics, and the kind of arguments they use, some seem logical, a few posts have demonstrated a certain fairness and logic, but not yours.
Your is an example of bullying, name calling, and the abuse those are sharing, (not with skeptics, they actually want a forum to talk to other experiences and bounce ideas back and forth to learn more). And yet your post there is a very common type.
Also, name calling immediately demonstrates a lack of logic, which invalidates your posts and position as a skeptic.
Yet you are addressing theabsolutetruth using the same words, invalidating everything you've said to her. Its just bullying, illogic, emotional, close minded and mean.
By the way there are tons of evidence of ET. Not just crafts, but crafts not being human/black op. Testimony has been given by those with far more security classification than the presidents or prime ministers of our nations have every had, barring perhaps those who ran the CIA, people with enough credentials to launch a nuclear attack and possibly destroy the world. In fact, our lives are in the hands of individuals such as who have given testimony, and they're far from incompetents.
There are many artifacts and writings throughout history as well. You can choose to ignore them, but they exist, and others don't.
And there are many experiencers of ufology
Bullying looks bad on you.
Originally posted by LoveisanArt
reply to post by InhaleExhale
If you have control over your mind how can one become "delusional"? Its a society reference to a mind that is misunderstood, a mind which does not operate standardly according to society and those who occupy this BOX.
I think its delusional to live for money; a concept of paper with ink on it.. which people kill and die for; I find it delusional that people do what they are told without making a stand. Its delusional to kill millions of animals everyday to "supply" society with food.. Its delusional to believe one man can change the world, yet 300,000,000 people make him their "leader" - he turns around and rapes your life like a leech...
I guess delusional is a very flexable word To me your a delusional human being with no grasp of its own mind potential; to YOU, Im delusional for experiencing things I never asked to and believing they did happen! To YOU its delusional to beleive life exists outside of Earths atmosphere because we havent seen it on CNN, or the VAtican hasnt announced this existence yet..
You humans are much dumber then you want to "believe" you are. We are operating at lower mental levels when we slave for society and fill our minds with useless # that really serves no purpose to our species..
Time for a roadtrip baby, gonna be a good journey! Hopefullly I'll more experiences on the way or see a few spaceships in the sky on my way to Alberta
Peace peeps, hope you enjoyed the thread as much as I did;
Remeber, we are all delusional