JFK's killer REVEALED on Coast to Coast this morning.....

Originally posted by Mike215How did she know that that he was hit in the head only two days after the assassination? She knew because she instructed the assassins to shot him in the head and she was told afterwards.

This might be one of the weaker legs of your argument. The fact that Madame Nhu knows how JFK was killed 48 hours later is not itself damning evidence. (It's surely a great detail that many historians have missed). But after the Friday press conference - the head shot - was already in the public record.

I have read many of the JFK assassination books and lately i have been reading "COUP D’ÉTAT IN AMERICA" and IMO this book possibly makes the most sense out of all the confusion and allegations.

A free online copy of the book can be found at www.slideshare.net/AJWeberman/coup-detat-in-america-vol-1

reply to post by Logarock

He must have given them reason to believe that there would be air support even if that reason were only that he didnt try harder to stop the operation.

According to the book, the air support was to be withheld unless absolutely necessary as a last result. Kennedy didn't want America overtly involved but appeased the Juggernaut behind it into thinking he would authorize it when the time came. He only went ahead with the whole thing if they agreed that he and he only could authorize that.

What was on his mind is purely conjecture. But it remains that he in fact did not authorize it despite the pressure from the military, the CIA and state department. So that is why I say if that is what he planned it was brilliant. I have no way of knowing, by the way. Just conjecture.

In a wider sense, he stood down during the Cuban missile crisis and planned on reducing the number of advisers in Vietnam as well. I believe these are some of the reasons why he was assassinated. You add Diems to that three weeks before and you can see a pattern. No?

Fast forward to MLK and RFK, also assassinated by firearms.

Originally posted by intrptr

Fast forward to MLK and RFK, also assassinated by firearms.

And then fast forward to the presidencies of LBJ, Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. I think I agree with you. The secrets of this murder are sooooooo important that they planned to control the US presidency for the next 25 years or so.

I've just been listening to Mae Brussell -Analysis of House Select Committee on Assassination- on youtube which will knock anyone's socks off. She's recorded tapes in 1978 about the 120+ suspicious deaths of witnesses in the JFK conspiracy. These tapes are like GOLD! www.youtube.com...

I will probably listen to Mike Cohen's interview on Coast to Coast again because I want to ask him some more questions about the Nixon/Nhu relationship and the timing.

Originally posted by r2d246
Madame Nhu was touring the U.S. when she heard the news of her husband's murder. She publicly said....

Such a cruel injustice against a faithful ally cannot go unnoticed, and THOSE WHO INDULGE IN IT WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. . .

National Press

All of the sourcing for this quote leads back to the author of the original conspiracy theorist (a circular reference)..

Until someone can find a source for this from that time period, I will have to assume this is made up to sell books.. which is done all of the time.

If that quote holds water, I will have to really rethink my view of the events leading up to JFK's assassination..

Originally posted by Hefficide

E Howard Hunt pulled the trigger and the reasons for it were complex and mostly still shrouded in secrecy. The one living soul who knows the truth of it all was the man who once owned Zapata Oil. A man named George Herbert Walker Bush.

~Heff

You know what else makes me think George Herbert?
And yes I know it's a stretch..But, If Kennedy's brain really is missing,
Guess which ivy league secret society is said to steal things like that?
As many have heard, Skull and Bones are thought to have Geronimo's Skull
and Hitlers Dinnerware.

What? I said it was a stretch..Who else would have it?

Burying the truth even today...
Double posting adds content to the page, distraction about wheres the brain? Of course it was stolen to prevent analysis, not to adorn some secret societies trophy wall. The X-ray of Kennedy's brain was hopelessly fogged for the same reason... to hide the truth.

Madame Nhu was a witness just like Jacky, she had nothing to do with Kennedy's assassination. Really, is that a serious assertion? All her statements were of a far eastern ethos that speaks to the belief in Karma, not any actual plans to kill Kennedy, lol.

reply to post by intrptr


Couldn't the same group both hide the brain from forensics
and use it as a trophy?

Very interesting story and one I had not heard before. My thought on the assassination has always been that there were multiple entities from different factions that had been contacted by a single shot caller and none knew the others were in on it. They were all given specific locations to shoot from and the shot caller gave them a time or a signal of a sort that all could see from their location. Essentially the shots were taken back to back as that is how the caller signalled and with multiple shooters the "crossfire" was a guaranteed kill and with multiple factions involved it would be easier to pin it on the guy that could not really shoot and had been set up to take the fall for it.

Just my thoughts....with this possibility then the lady the OP speaks of could have had a hand in it.

reply to post by sealing

Speculation. All we know is, he was hit in the head, the brain is "missing" and the X-ray is foggy.

My speculation is it was incinerated. They took the evidence to destroy it. If I shot Kennedy and I was able to get the brain, thats what I would do.

Only idiot serial killers keep "mementos".

reply to post by intrptr

All we know is, he was hit in the head, the brain is "missing" and the X-ray is foggy

I believe the Parkland emergency room doctors over the clowns that did the autopsy. The few autopsy photos taken they tried to hide the extent of the head wound by pulling the scalp over the wound but the main item of interest is that the doctors at parkland said the JFK had an entry wound at his trachea. This had to be discounted since any frontal wound would mean that there was more than a single shooter.

Intrptsr:
"All her statements were of a far Eastern ethos that speaks to the belief in Karma, not any plan to kill Kennedy"

In my radio broadcast, I did no that have a chance to discuss her Catholic belief in The Law of Tyrannicide.
She was Catholic, not Buddhist and in her Nov. 2 news conference where she threatened to kill Kennedy she invoked this 1,000 year old law (see google). This law says that if a ruler of country hurts the church or the community and therefore is classified as a tyrant, then it is the duty of a catholic person to assassinate that leader.
In her news conference, she did not use the word 'tyrannicide' which means murder of tyrants but she accused Kennedy of hurting her country by killing Diem and Nhu.:
"Whatever is done against Vietnam will be felt in America, too (3 weeks later Kennedy gets shot in his head)
It is not enough to try to kill or subdue the duly elected leaders of a country just because one wants to transform that country into a satellite. To kill or to subdue is easy, but what happens afterwards? Treason does not pay and nobody can rule Vietnam with just money and puppets"

John Wilks Booth accused Lincoln of being a tyrant before he assassinated him. She is accusing Kennedy of being a tyrant and therefore he has to die. When she ruled Vietnam she killed thousands and has plenty of blood on her hands. That is why Kennedy was fed up with her and wanted her out of power. If she would have been in Vietnam during the Coup, she would also have been shot in the head.
By the way, she did not believe in Karma but she did in astrology which she used to kill Kennedy.

reply to post by CynicalWabbit

This is kind of off topic, so sorry OP.

My understanding is that the Parkland doctors did a tracheotomy at the bullet exit site on his throat. Thats why it looked jagged (like an "entrance wound"). It is also my understanding that a nurse, not a doctor made this "entrance wound" observation after all attempts at resuscitation had failed.

The doctors at Parkland pulled the scalp together (back in place) to show the entrance hole at the back of the head. There is a picture of that, somewhere.

Edit: And I found a pic. This was used to show that entrance hole on the back of the skull. The glove on the right is holding the exploded scalp and skull fragments in place to show the hole specifically...

I saw this way back in the book "Best Evidence".

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by Logarock

 

He must have given them reason to believe that there would be air support even if that reason were only that he didnt try harder to stop the operation.

According to the book, the air support was to be withheld unless absolutely necessary as a last result. Kennedy didn't want America overtly involved but appeased the Juggernaut behind it into thinking he would authorize it when the time came. He only went ahead with the whole thing if they agreed that he and he only could authorize that.

What was on his mind is purely conjecture. But it remains that he in fact did not authorize it despite the pressure from the military, the CIA and state department. So that is why I say if that is what he planned it was brilliant. I have no way of knowing, by the way. Just conjecture.

Thats like letting youre girl get all dressed up for the dance and then not picking her up. Its not very brilliant.

I know JFK wasnt a military man so he may not have understood......thats just not something you do to fighting men. As far as JFK wanting it to look like america wasnt involved.....well that ship had already sailed.

reply to post by Logarock

Thats like letting youre girl get all dressed up for the dance and then not picking her up. Its not very brilliant.

It is if you want it to fail, but can't stop it beforehand. Comparing it to a school dance is discrediting the move. Waiting for all the rebels to be on the beach and out of ammo to stop the support is the brilliant part. End of story.

I know JFK wasnt a military man so he may not have understood......thats just not something you do to fighting men. As far as JFK wanting it to look like america wasnt involved.....well that ship had already sailed.

Some must die to save a lot of others. A wider war with Russia backed Cuba was something he was trying to avoid too.

Batista was some kind of western puppet huh? Well liked by his countrymen? Loved by the mob (casinos) and all the military and government junkets to "Havana Nights". They wanted to go back to that oppressive regime? I would retch too.

I also don't think the world was fooled by American involvement before or after Batista. That was plain. Sorry if you got that impression. Kennedy's act of refusing permission to authorize air strikes ended the conflict (what little conflict there was). He knew full well what he was doing. The only accomplishment of the Cuban brigade was to shoot up some tanks on the road to the beach. They never even got off the beach. The expected wider revolution from the people never materialized either. It was a pipe dream.

Boo hoo, we want to go back to gambling in the US mob run casinos in Cubaaaaaa! pffft...

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by Logarock

 

Thats like letting youre girl get all dressed up for the dance and then not picking her up. Its not very brilliant.

It is if you want it to fail, but can't stop it beforehand. Comparing it to a school dance is discrediting the move. Waiting for all the rebels to be on the beach and out of ammo to stop the support is the brilliant part. End of story.

Well I understand you a bit better now. He must have know at any rate that if there were forces in place that would have gone ahead with this move without his ok, then the power structure in this country was already compromised and his life was in danger anyway. He may have thought that no one would dare try to get total revenge.

reply to post by Logarock

He must have know at any rate that if there were forces in place that would have gone ahead with this move without his ok, then the power structure in this country was already compromised and his life was in danger anyway. He may have thought that no one would dare try to get total revenge.

Back then... I think things were different. Nobody dared violate that presidential decree. I don't know if that was because of the power his father had in politics, or if there was still some respect for the office. Eisenhower was president and Supreme Commander of The European Theatre during WWII and Kennedy was his protege.

The Bay of Pigs was one of the things that set the CIA and the Military Industrial Complex (not to mention the Cuban exiles and the US Mob) all against the Kennedy's. His brother Robert, then Attorney General had also raked the mob over the coals during the senate hearings on mob activity. Talk about stirring a hornets nest, them guys (the Kennedy brothers) had balls.

Thats why I sort of scoff at the idea that Madame Nhu had anything to do with his death. Kennedy's had enough enemies stateside to go around. When he came out against widening the war (with) in Vietnam, that really did it.

By the way so did MLK and RFK. And they each were killed shortly thereafter.