Fire in the sky - The Orange UFO Mystery

reply to post by Tearman


I know that the eye muscles can produce anomalies in your vision. I'm very aware of error in human perception. Of course I've doubted myself, still do. But it always comes back. There is nothing to label this sighting with... Even if it wasn't moving slightly like an insect in the wind, it still changed direction at 90 degrees and increased it's speed to faster then any meteor i've seen, and dissapearred into the background of space. Even if it was in the atmosphere and very close, it displays no characteristics of an earthly vehicle. The speed, the appearance, the agility, the trajectory.. All unable to be classified. I didn't just see this by myself either. We talked about it, the experience was so new/strange that it's burnt into my memory, I have not created any extra memories or cut any memories out. To suggest that I have is not scientific. I'm a very logical person and don't really invest myself into having any beliefs. even of "aliens". But I have to accept that it's entirely possible given what I saw and others have seen that match the description for the last 80+years... To be honest, if I hadn't seen it suddenly change direction and accelerate beyond my ability to comprehend whilst dissapearring into space, I wouldn't have taken the sighting so seriously. It's truly mind-boggling. I totally agree with being skeptical and logical about what is seen. But it's also important not to lose information about the sighting or disgreard what you see because it doesn't fit with what human's accept as "real".

I'm trying to teach myself 3d animation so that I can recreate the event to accurately depict what we saw.

I've also been unable to recreate this event, if it was something of earth origin, I would be bound to see it again(or even locate the information that details the object I saw). After about 3 years of constantly watching the sky, I have not seen anything like it. I've seen other less remarkable things moving in space erratically. A couple of times I've seen small points of flashing light moving randomly around the sky - only to reach a certain point and dissapear, and at the exact same time, two identical lights would appear on either side of where the original one was, and travel in the opposite direction, also not moving in a straight line. However, they're much more mundane compaired to the orange orb so I don't really think about these kind of sightings at all.

Those are interesting sightings. I understand the feeling, after my initial sighting, I'd always notice planes in the distance because they had a similar color, but now I can tell everytime when it's a plane, because of the way the light behaves. And the color isn't quite as deep orange/gold as the thing I saw.

There is a huge compilation of fireball sightings at the Celestial Convergence website with several videos and links back to the sources.

It is amazing how many sightings around the world there have been recently. You will see what I mean if you go to the source link and start scrolling down the page. I hope we are not heading toward a region of space where we will be running into worse than this.

FIRE IN THE SKY: Numerous Sightings Of Fireballs Across The Globe - Two Separate Fireballs Seen Over East And West Coasts Of Canada; Enormous Fireball Reported Over Gulf Of Mexico; Mysterious Loud Boom Heard And Felt Over Tucson; Texas Man Captures Mysterious Light Streaking Across The Sky; Overhead Meteor Explosion In Bradford, Vermont; 'Loud And Mystery Explosive Boom' Over Charleston, West Virginia; Greenish Yellow Fireball Seen Over North Carolina & Virginia; 'Sparkly' Silver Light Seen In Otago Sky, New Zealand; Bosnia 'Meteor' Intrigues New Generation In Wake Of Russia Strike; Bright Blue Fireball Over Latvia Caught On All-Sky Cameras; Meteor Sightings Across Los Angeles!

Here is a sampling from part way down the page of the listings...

Enormous Fireball Reported Over Gulf Of Mexico.
27 February 2013 - D. Beebe, Gulf of Mexico, off Louisiana 03:05 CST

1 minute plus duration. South to Northwest, I was facing South. It was orange color and about Venus brightness. It fragmented into ~15 pieces and glowed orange/white leaving a very long tail of sparks directly behind it, then slowly faded away.

27 February 2013 - Bart. @ 27 03'0N; 092 03'2W - 03:30 Central USA

30 seconds duration. It was yellow to amber color and fragmented.

27 February 2013 - Seadog71, Gulf of Mexico 3:30am

20 seconds duration. Travelling south to north. White and orange color and as bright as Venus. It was quite large and broke apart into a few bigger and many small fragments. It was heading towards the Louisiana coast. I took video, but it's a bit grainy at night.

27 February 2013 - Dan Richard Lafayette, Louisiana USA 03:10 CST

Event lasted over 20 seconds, then it disappeared behind clouds as it broke up. It was moving in a southeast/northwest direction. It was white with a tinge of red and blue as it broke up. As bright as the moon. It looked similar to Shuttle Columbia breaking apart, but not as bright.

27 February 2013 - Byron Byrd, North Central Gulf of Mexico 03:30 CST

Some of these are sun dogs. Obviously movement can rule that out.

But this does seem to be one of the most consistent and intriguing categories of sighting out there. MUFON is jam packed with them. There is a very common detail where they "eject" falling bits of bright stuff.

The only phenomenon I know that it reminds me of, is earth lights, which are starting to be studied and understood better (Hessdalen valley, etc). However, the Hessdalen lights don't eject small bits of light in the same way as the white-to-orange globular UFOs.

Hessdalen lights eject self-similar lights, more of a splitting action. By comparison, broadly speaking, these UFOs "act" like they are dumping waste or ballast.

Originally posted by Autograf
Some of these are sun dogs. Obviously movement can rule that out.

But this does seem to be one of the most consistent and intriguing categories of sighting out there. MUFON is jam packed with them. There is a very common detail where they "eject" falling bits of bright stuff.

The only phenomenon I know that it reminds me of, is earth lights, which are starting to be studied and understood better (Hessdalen valley, etc). However, the Hessdalen lights don't eject small bits of light in the same way as the white-to-orange globular UFOs.

Hessdalen lights eject self-similar lights, more of a splitting action. By comparison, broadly speaking, these UFOs "act" like they are dumping waste or ballast.

Yeah, good points and nice, open mind, Auotograf. At this point I can't totally accept any explanation that attempts to explain them ALL away as unknown plasmas devoid of intelligence. Don't have time to look it up now, but the British put out a report a few years ago that talked about "rarely understood plasmas" at length. It's also interesting to note that Bohm and others have postulated, from lab experiments, that plasmas can and do show evidence that they can be "alive" when using standard scientific criteria for "life."

Cough...




I believe the orange orbs are what the artist intended to capture in this portrait. And if the artist did indeed see something that resembles it, then these object have been around for almost a millenia. Even perhaps longer, much longer, however thats just my opinion.

Also did anybody notice the F**kin chair the guy is sitting on?

Originally posted by Specimen
Cough...




I believe the orange orbs are what the artist intended to capture in this portrait. And if the artist did indeed see something that resembles it, then these object have been around for almost a millenia. Even perhaps longer, much longer, however thats just my opinion.

Also did anybody notice the "snip" chair the guy is sitting on?

The vimanas of ancient India are one of the best examples of ancient aircraft...

There is evidence in the ancient texts that is very credible mainly because of the detailed descriptions of them in very old writings.


Here is another LINK website with information about the vimanas.

reply to post by happykat39


Im actually a bit more interested in reading some of the mahbrahata sanskrit. Some of the pictures and stories depict war between their gods. I have noticed a certain colour scheme that goes along a few other pcitures concerning ufo's in ancient art. I do believe in the existence of highly advanced aircraft that could considered ancient, and has shown it self repeatedly around the world at different times.






Now what some of these pictures are/were hinting to me is was where their battles between two different types of fractions with different technology. As far as race goes, they seem to be mixed up. The mahbrata pic shows multiple races on ether side fighting each other, while the bottom one shows two human like figures in such craft.

Now I would have no idea if their was some alien blood feud, or it could be a political feud back then. Or for all we know they could just be using special effects and making it look like they were having wars for some reason. Two sides of the same coin. Who knows?

The Gods must be crazy afterall.

I don't know if it means anything, but several years my dad, who lived near Omaha and Offutt Air Force Base, was working outside when he noticed a fairly large orange sphere high up in the air that he assumed was a balloon. But the difference was it was descending, not rising or drifting sideways, and after a short time it and it got low enough, it suddenly seemed to be under greater control and headed straight toward the Air Force base.

His thought was that it was not an alien UFO, but rather some kind of balloon re-entry system designed to drop things from either space or very high altitudes, and then somehow be guided back to a specific place for recovery.

FWIW

Cool thread.

One thing i've learned about UFO's is you can't really prove or disprove it. It comes down to you choosing yourself what you believe in. I've started my own little compilation.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by ninetysixufo


I'll add what amounts to worthless second-hand testimony...

family lore tells of my father (WWII silver star recipient, Air Force Lt. Cl, CPA teetotaler) and mother (housewife, not-so-teetotaling) driving cross country in 1952ish and watching two orange lights "play with each other, doing zig-zags, stopping and starting on a dime and doing 90 degree turns for forty-five minutes over a highway in southern Nevada with about fifteen other cars that had stopped to watch."

My father was very familiar with aircraft as he was still Air Force reserve at that point and he was adamant that they "weren't ours." He estimated that they were at least 5,000 feet up and looked like fifty foot spheres of orange fire or molten metal but at a few points they shot down and skimmed the hills illuminating the nighttime desert landscape.

He thought they were "putting on a show."

On the same trip as they topped a hill with the San Francisco Bay in view they saw a huge orange sphere "a degree or two larger than the sun that had just set" cruise across the horizon from South to North in under a minute, seemingly out over the ocean.

Good info, thanks.

Originally posted by Baddogma
reply to post by ninetysixufo

 

I'll add what amounts to worthless second-hand testimony...

family lore tells of my father (WWII silver star recipient, Air Force Lt. Cl, CPA teetotaler) and mother (housewife, not-so-teetotaling) driving cross country in 1952ish and watching two orange lights "play with each other, doing zig-zags, stopping and starting on a dime and doing 90 degree turns for forty-five minutes over a highway in southern Nevada with about fifteen other cars that had stopped to watch."

My father was very familiar with aircraft as he was still Air Force reserve at that point and he was adamant that they "weren't ours." He estimated that they were at least 5,000 feet up and looked like fifty foot spheres of orange fire or molten metal but at a few points they shot down and skimmed the hills illuminating the nighttime desert landscape.

He thought they were "putting on a show."

On the same trip as they topped a hill with the San Francisco Bay in view they saw a huge orange sphere "a degree or two larger than the sun that had just set" cruise across the horizon from South to North in under a minute, seemingly out over the ocean.

Second one at the SF Bay is a textbook description of a sun dog, for what it's worth.

Originally posted by The GUT

Originally posted by Autograf
Some of these are sun dogs. Obviously movement can rule that out.

But this does seem to be one of the most consistent and intriguing categories of sighting out there. MUFON is jam packed with them. There is a very common detail where they "eject" falling bits of bright stuff.

The only phenomenon I know that it reminds me of, is earth lights, which are starting to be studied and understood better (Hessdalen valley, etc). However, the Hessdalen lights don't eject small bits of light in the same way as the white-to-orange globular UFOs.

Hessdalen lights eject self-similar lights, more of a splitting action. By comparison, broadly speaking, these UFOs "act" like they are dumping waste or ballast.

Yeah, good points and nice, open mind, Auotograf. At this point I can't totally accept any explanation that attempts to explain them ALL away as unknown plasmas devoid of intelligence. Don't have time to look it up now, but the British put out a report a few years ago that talked about "rarely understood plasmas" at length. It's also interesting to note that Bohm and others have postulated, from lab experiments, that plasmas can and do show evidence that they can be "alive" when using standard scientific criteria for "life."

Yes, Bohm's work in the lab is very interesting. The Hessdalen lights also seem to display lifelike qualities despite only lasting for a few minutes to a few dozen minutes. They also have at least two taxonomies if I recall correctly, where behavior can be predicted according to form and color.

Many of the orange orb UFOs last hours, so it seems to be a rather different phenomena, or a different kind of the same phenomena. They also display much more complex and unpredictable behavior than the Hessdalen lights, which tend to be rather unsurprising apart from their currently mysterious nature.

i am reviving this thread because my kids and i..and half the street saw orange/red balls fly overhead last night. i was sitting on the front porch having a smoke, looking at the stars when i saw the orange ball above the tree tops. it was flying in a straight line and went right over my house. it had no sound, was moving fairly fast and had no tail but appeared to glow. it wasnt on fire so i wont call it a fireball, but it did pulsate. it was just a ways above the tree tops i believe and was gone in around 15 seconds. i looked back where it came from and here comes a second one. same speed same direction.
its funny when you see something like this, your brain races trying to find a category to place it in. the first video on page 3 looks a lot like what we saw.

Originally posted by autopat51
... i saw the orange ball above the tree tops. it was flying in a straight line and went right over my house. it had no sound, was moving fairly fast and had no tail but appeared to glow. it wasnt on fire so i wont call it a fireball, but it did pulsate. it was just a ways above the tree tops i believe and was gone in around 15 seconds. i looked back where it came from and here comes a second one. same speed same direction.

Perfect description of Chinese lanterns.

reply to post by ninetysixufo


It is interesting you bring this up, because the other night I had my very first legitimate encounter which I simply cannot explain.

I've lived near an airport for most of my life and have seen literally hundreds of planes a day over the course of 20 years, but have never seen something like this. I know the video I took stinks, but when you see something your eyes and mind can barely comprehend, I was practically fumbling with my phone just to get any sort of footage I could before whatever this thing had disappeared (which it did, rather quickly). I'm sure you can tell by my voice I was kind-of in a state of utter disbelief as well.

The best I can describe what I witnessed is something that was a very bright long solid orange vertical line (I want to stress the "vertical" part of how it was flying, almost like an " | " shape) traveling at a rate I've never seen any aircraft travel across the sky. Living near an airport, I always watch the sky at night and have a very keen eye for picking out the pulsating lights of an aircraft...and all I can say is that this thing looked like a slab of red hot molten steel in the sky. No red lights or green lights whatsoever. Also, this was outside of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and I'd be ecstatic to see if anyone else has witnessed something similar in the region recently.

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figures someone would say that..
this was not lanterns.

reply to post by autopat51

this was not lanterns.

If you don't know what it was how do you know what it wasn't ?
The description you gave sounds like a lantern to me too , perhaps someone letting an early 4th July one off .

but it did pulsate.

They do , its the flickering of the flame .

reply to post by ninetysixufo


holy I saw something similar but with more glare two times hovering over the same city at late evening. gave my chills, I really have to read up that case! thanks for bringing that up

Edit after a little search, I found this vid, I´ve no sound here and did not look up the guy who posted it but he found the same parallel you did look at
1:00 - 1:15 is interesting

Was gonna start a thread about this very topic. I really just want to ask, did anyone see anything on the 4th of july?
I went the local racetrack to watch some fireworks, and have to say it was one of the most active nights for these "fireballs".

If you go on youtube and type 'ufo july 4 2013', you'll find alot of videos showing and describing these "fireball, orange orbs".

I didn't get what i saw on camera but im sure someone at the races got them on camera, hopfully they put it online.

And no these weren't Chinese laterns, these orbs would appear, rise into the air then hover. They sat in the air from anywhere from 10 to 15 then shut their lights of, then they descend and repeat the same flight path and pattern.

They were large yet smaller than a hot air balloon, flew in a very tight flight path yet different patterns depending on the number, and they repeated those flight patterns with such synchronicity.

Sorry for writing a book, its hard to explain it and im still excited lol.

Anyway, id like to hear if anyone else experienced anything on the 4th, it seemed to be an active night throughout the Usa.


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