What this new flare-up in the Middle East is all about. We're being thrown a curve people.

7 Weeks to Austerity Programs in the US...Who do you think wrote the "fiscal cliff" legislation?

Calling it the "fiscal cliff" and focusing on an arbitrary deadline is a distraction technique that forces people to look at what's really happening from the wrong perspective and therefore miss it entirely.

The deal with the banks is...."congress will pass laws implementing austerity programs to fully legitimize the process and the sheeple will be ever grateful in their sinking financial state that THE CLIFF (which the bankers created out of thin air for "the deal" through all their well known influence with our political class/oligarchy) was heroically avoided in the final hours by relentless, sleepless determination from our lawmakers to prove this great country can put aside deep fractiousness and come together when the going gets tough."

Y'see, congress can only affect discretionary spending.

Interest payments on govt debt...congress can't touch it.
Mandatory obligations...stay mandatory.

The problem is, "the US fiscal situation is so untenable that the government fails to collect enough tax revenue to cover mandatory spending and debt interest. In Fiscal Year 2011, for example, the US government spent $176 billion MORE on debt interest and mandatory spending than they generated in tax revenue.

In Fiscal Year 2012, which just ended 6 weeks ago, that shortfall increased to $251 billion. This means that they could cut the ENTIRE discretionary budget and still be in the hole by $251 billion.

This is why the Fiscal Cliff is irrelevant."
www.zerohedge.com...

The reason congress will compromise and avoid the "fiscal cliff" is that the banks make way too much money on war. Falling over the "fiscal cliff[ would mean military spending would be significantly cut. The banks don't want that. Military spending is their bread and butter. So why did they write it into the legislation you may ask? Because they knew they could create a situation where large cuts in military spending would not be acceptable by the sheeple.

Why do you think the Middle East (ie the same old actors) is "flaring up" RIGHT NOW???
"LOOK OVER HERE!!! ROCKETS AND DEATH AND DESTRUCTION ON THE VERGE OF ESCALATION AND FREAKING ARMAGEDDON!!!!!!!!!"

And the sheeple go....doot doodoo do do do doot doot, doot do do doot doodoo do do......HOLY CRAP!!!!! YOU GUYS IN CONGRESS CAN'T ALLOW THOSE FREAKING MILITARY CUTBACKS NOW FER CRYIN' OUT LOUD!!!!!

It's such an obvious scam but one that's apparently easily accomplished.

So...AUSTERITY PROGRAMS here we come.
We're all Greek now.

Does anyone here think the Occupy Movement is an effective strategy against the banksters?


Who do you think wrote the "fiscal cliff" legislation?
The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) is an international organization of central banks which "fosters international monetary and financial cooperation and serves as a bank for central banks."[2] As an international institution, it is not accountable to any single national government.
The BIS carries out its work through subcommittees, the secretariats it hosts and through an annual general meeting of all member banks. It also provides banking services, but only to central banks and other international organizations. It is based in Basel, Switzerland, with representative offices in Hong Kong and Mexico City.

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The BIS is the most obscure arm of the Bretton-Woods International Financial architecture but its role is central. John Maynard Keynes wanted it closed down as it was used to launder money for the Nazis in World War II. Run by an inner elite representing the world's major central banks it controls most of the transferable money in the world. It uses that money to draw national governments into debt for the IMF.
www.bilderberg.org...

"The Power of financial capitalism had [a] far reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.
This system was to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.

The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks, which were themselves private corporations.

Each central bank sought to dominate its government by its ability to control treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence co-operative politicians by subsequent rewards in the business world."

Carrol Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, 1966


The "Fiscal Cliff"/potential war in the Middle East con game happening RIGHT NOW is a tremendously huge move by the banksters. All that "woowoo" seeming DHS internment camps "shrillness" and "crazy" talk of imminent martial law is starting to look a lot less like "crazy woowoo shrillness about now.

And the icing on the cake for the banksters is that all this military activity is making them a fat wad of money while they tighten their grip on the US citizenry. They are laughing all the way to the bank.

They have been using wars to solve global economic depressions for a while now. I'm not even sure but what the US civil war was inspired by economic problems and its success furthered the military complex cause.

The Roosevelt civil programs weren't successful after the great US depression in the 1930's. Maybe they will come up with something a little different this time around?

We need some flies on the walls at the military academies. What class required books are they selling in the MA bookstores these days?

Someone should carve this in stone and hide it in a cave somewhere lest our generations to come forget what happened or lose the ability to find out.

"SOLVING GLOBAL ECONOMIC DEPRESSION?????
Are you serious???

They're CAUSING it.

War is the "bread and butter" of the world bank. Truer words have never been spoken OP.

Just keep the general population up in arms and angry....keep them focused on the
"bad guys" outside their borders and you can keep the war money flowing in...

....There's a reason bankers are referred to as "The smartest guys in the room."

The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks, which were themselves private corporations.

We're way behind the eight ball if we're just now catching on.

“The Federal Reserve Bank of New York is eager to enter into close relationship with the Bank for International Settlements….The conclusion is impossible to escape that the State and Treasury Departments are willing to pool the banking system of Europe and America, setting up a world financial power independent of and above the Government of the United States….The United States under present conditions will be transformed from the most active of manufacturing nations into a consuming and importing nation with a balance of trade against it.”- Rep. Louis McFadden – Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Currency quoted in the New York Times (June 1930)

“In a small Swiss city sits an international organization so obscure and secretive….Control of the institution, the Bank for International Settlements, lies with some of the world’s most powerful and least visible men: the heads of 32 central banks, officials able to shift billions of dollars and alter the course of economies at the stroke of a pen.”- Keith Bradsher, New York Times, August 5, 1995

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It's not working on me.

When I see all the unrest and riots, I think, we need to cut military spending.

I know when I have toys I like to use them.
Read they had spent 1.5 million to try to develop a new beef jerky that would roll up.

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It's quite something to see that quite a number people who have caught on can still get thrown off track when something like the present hostilities seems to just flare up. All it takes is for the word to come down ordering one side to provoke the other and emotions are off to the races leaving rationality in the dust.
I also suspect that the infantile youtube video insulting Mohammed was also a ploy to create tension as a lead-in to this Israel/Palestine foofarah.

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Were people always so emotional that they'd just park their brains and fly off the handle at every imagined threat or insult? I don't remember that growing up in flyover country.

I agree the video was flim flam and I think most middle easterners thought so too, so the media had to blow it all out of proportion for their handlers who were building up to Benghazi and another round in Gaza.

We're living on a freaking show boat and its taking on water while congress bails out everything but the boat. Of course they have all the life rafts.

A source in the Deutsche Bank claims that in 2008 our financial and monetary system completely collapsed and since that time the banking cartels have been “propping up the system” to make it appear as if everything was fine.

In reality our stock market and monetary systems are fake; meaning that there is nothing holding them in place except the illusion that they have stabilized since the Stock Market Crash nearly 5 years ago.

Since this time, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in conjunction with FEMA and other federal agencies have been quickly working to set in place their directives of control under a silent martial law.
The war with Iran has to do with gold, its use as currency and its exposure of the central banking cartel’s lack of gold which defines a fiat currency’s worth. And right now, the US dollar is absolutely worthless.
The Deutsche Bank informant says that the financial collapse that happened in 2008 will be realized here in America very soon.
Once that happens, there must be full implementation of marital law to control the potential riots and control over citizens that will be desperate to feed their families.
The US government and defense agencies estimate they have a 72 hour window to activate all procedures to ensure continuity of government as well as a lockdown of the general population as civilian unrest, riots and outbreaks of violence are anticipated.

I know - it's not related directly but it's- weird.

Last night I went out to the hardware store and realized there was a helicopter flying low in circles around my very small town. I realized that lately EVERY time I go to town there is a helicopter flying low like that. It's a police helicopter - I know we have them but I never paid much attention to the fact that they were using them - what seems like - all the time.

They've been there, but last night- I NOTICED it. And it felt oppressive.
It's a small town. There's not a lot of crime here at all, and when it does happen, it's usually just piddly stuff or family stuff that no helicopter could prevent.

I felt like an ant in an antfarm.

Originally posted by hadriana
It's not working on me.

When I see all the unrest and riots, I think, we need to cut military spending.

I know when I have toys I like to use them.
Read they had spent 1.5 million to try to develop a new beef jerky that would roll up.

Yep, same for me. When I think of how isolated the US is from the rest of the world.
I think, wow, we could cut military spending by 80%, still protect our borders, still have
our nuclear deterrent, balance the budget, and pay off the entire national debt in fifteen
years.

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It goes back a lot further than 2008. I hope this post doesn't fall under any rules about "excessive quoting" because its that important.

"Since March the 9th, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may:seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and... control the lives of all American citizens"

This situation has continued absolutely uninterrupted since March 9, 1933. We have been in a state of declared national emergency for nearly 63 years without knowing it.

According to current laws, as found in 12 USC, Section 95(b), everything the President or the Secretary of the Treasury has done since March 4, 1933 is automatically approved:

"The actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders and proclamations heretofore or hereafter taken,
promulgated, made, or issued by the President of the United States or the Secretary of the Treasury since March the 4th, 1933, pursuant to the authority conferred by Subsection (b) of Section 5 of the Act of October 6th, 1917, as amended [12 USCS Sec. 95a], are hereby approved and confirmed. (Mar. 9, 1933, c. 1,Title 1, Sec. 1, 48 Stat. 1]".

www.apfn.org...

People who blame Obama, or even Bush just don't know their history. Its like a pandemic of amnesia or alzheimers.

Originally posted by madenusa

Once that happens, there must be full implementation of marital law to control the potential riots and control over citizens that will be desperate to feed their families.
The US government and defense agencies estimate they have a 72 hour window to activate all procedures to ensure continuity of government as well as a lockdown of the general population as civilian unrest, riots and outbreaks of violence are anticipated.

If it ever gets really bad the government or anyone else wont have the manpower to control the madness.

In 1970, Henry Kissinger made a deal with the Saudi Arabian government that American debt would be purchased in exchange for cheap oil. Since then Iran has taken control over the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) by their use of gold as currency which has threatened the direct value of the US dollar as the global reserve currency
.theintelhub.com...

Originally posted by Logarock

Originally posted by madenusa

Once that happens, there must be full implementation of marital law to control the potential riots and control over citizens that will be desperate to feed their families.
The US government and defense agencies estimate they have a 72 hour window to activate all procedures to ensure continuity of government as well as a lockdown of the general population as civilian unrest, riots and outbreaks of violence are anticipated.

If it ever gets really bad the government or anyone else wont have the manpower to control the madness.

Once deployed in the air, a parachute assists these CBUs to the targeted area. And when detonated, a deadly chemical gas will kill every human and animal in the specified cordoned area.
If it gets that bad i will be takeing as many as i can with me,lol

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Heck, all they'd have to do is flip a few switches and shut off the power. The country would come to an instant standstill. Wouldn't be long before people would be begging their overlords for a crust of bread and a sip of water in exchange for ..... total servitude.?

Originally posted by frazzle
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Heck, all they'd have to do is flip a few switches and shut off the power. The country would come to an instant standstill. Wouldn't be long before people would be begging their overlords for a crust of bread and a sip of water in exchange for ..... total servitude.?

The overlords want willing servants. The sheeple must believe that they were not coerced. A forced blackout would truly enrage far too many people for their liking.

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Not if the blackout could be blamed on a natural disaster or our obsolete and crumbling infrastructure. And then there's their default position ~ terrorists.

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You have to realise though it's not just the 'banksters', it is the capitalist system itself that has lead to this and has allowed this to happen. The Banks are just a part of the whole corrupt system.

Without the private ownership of the means of production, the capitalist class (which includes the banksters) would not be able to accumulate the mass wealth that allows them to wage war, and manipulate the worlds economy to their own advantage.

This is why equality is so important! It is the unequal distribution of wealth that allows a minority class to economically dominate the majority.