Flu During Pregnancy Linked to Autism

Flu During Pregnancy Linked to Autism

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…mothers who reported having the flu during their pregnancy were two times more likely to have a child with autism, according to the study published Monday in the journal Pediatrics. Those whose fever persisted for a week or more before their third trimester were three times more likely to have a child on the autism spectrum, the study found.

...the findings did not suggest that getting the flu shot would have prevented the development of autism

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The link between flu during pregnancy and later disease has been established since follow-up studies to the 1918 Flu Epidemic. In addition, this new study also linked antibiotic use during pregnancy to autism.

…The new study also linked antibiotic use during pregnancy to a slightly higher risk of autism

Despite the fact that there is no evidence suggesting flu shots would prevent the development of autism, much mainstream coverage is using these study results to promote flu shots for the current flu season.

Perhaps most importantly, the "flu, pregnancy and autism" headlines are being used to obscure another piece of incredibly important news:

Cellphone radiation during pregnancy does harm your baby

Cell phone exposure during pregnancy related to fetal brain development problems in babies

Cellphone use during pregnancy linked to hyperactivity

Cellphone radiation that fetuses are exposed to in the womb may be responsible for rising rates of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and other behavioural problems in children, according to a new study.

…“This is the first experimental evidence that fetal exposure to radiofrequency radiation from cellular telephones does in fact affect adult behaviour,”
…researchers found that mice that were exposed to radiation tended to be more hyperactive. Those mice also were found to have reduced memory capacity.

Developing fetuses are incredibly vulnerable to environmental contaminations - not just flu infections or exposure to antibiotics and cell phones - and many effects only become apparent in adulthood. Autism and ADHD are just the tip of the iceberg. We're in the middle of a Chronic Disease Pandemic resulting from multiple causes and a superabundance of contaminations. ...I doubt we can vaccinate ourselves against every contamination we have created.




Also of note:

According to California records, autism has increased 1000% in the past 20 years! Autism used to account for 3% of the caseload of the California Department of Economic Security. As of 2012, it accounts for at least 35% of the caseload and costs taxpayers about $2 million per child. Lifetime care costs are easily five times higher.

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reply to post by soficrow


I suspect this study is probably just another attempt to try bully pregnant women into having the flu shot as many have been refusing

I think injecting your kid with 6 vaccines in a day is linked to autism

This is just a cover up for the insurance companys to cover there butts on injections.

Ya my 2nd son got autism and his mother didn't get sick while he was pregnant... He did however get the MMR shot and became screwed up because of it..

Call me crazy but it don't take a scientist to tell me wtf happened to him...

::EDIT::

Hey Riley and soficrow.. Long time no see you guys.. or girls..

Originally posted by riley
reply to post by soficrow

 

I suspect this study is probably just another attempt to try bully pregnant women into having the flu shot as many have been refusing

edit on 12-11-2012 by riley because: (no reason given)

I have only had one flu shot in my life. I got it for free when I worked for a government sensitive organization, whereby I had to deal with millions of dollars on a by weekly basis.

Got very ill a couple of days after the shot.

Not only that, I am not a keloid bulder, but I have one from the injection site, and it almost feels like there is still something in there.......

Nobody should ever have to take a flue shot, in my opinion. If we all stopped using anti bacterial soaps, and hand sanitizers, and lived life, there would be no market for this crap, at all.

Excellent topic, my daughter and I were just discussing this after hearing a PSA on the radio.

They have run the same style of the ads for years here. The way they go is "the odds of this person doing x and going on to do y and then proceeding to do z, 1:837,000. The odds of this person having a child born with Autism 1:153". What really caught my attention recently is that while the parent part changes with each new ad the child part is always the same. However the odds jumped out at me as they had gone up something like 50% compared to ads I can remember hearing not long ago.

I personally feel the excessive vaccines are the most likely culprit, my opinion based on what I have read. The problem will only get worse, people are so brainwashed they don't even bother to research what that needle is injecting into them. I have a younger sibling who was extolling the virtues of the "flu shot" (I wonder why it is not called the flu vaccine) that they can get at work for free. They were explaining to me how great it works, they "just never get the flu". I said "I never get the flu either, but I have never gotten a flu shot or any other vaccines in well over 3 decades".

While my sibling was brainwashed, they were not stoopid. I explained a few things and said do a bit of research on your own and decide. May be a bit late but they did not get the flu shot last year and will not this year either. My other sibling on the other hand has to get the shot each year or lose a job that is well into six figures. My wife works for the same company and battled cancer but kept working the whole time and even with chemo, radiation and surgery did not miss a day. The flu shot they forced her to get made her so sick she could not work for a couple of days.

My daughter is in public school (which I'm not too keen on) but is younger than all of her classmates and while some of what she comes home and tells me is really funny, a lot of it just makes a person want to cry. She will tell me some things other kids say and go "they are so brainwashed", and then explain why to me based on facts. Well the facts are in as far as I'm concerned and if/when they begin demanding she have the flu shot I'll try to get a religious exemption and if that fails she is out of there.

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reply to post by camaro68ss


I wrote a reasoned, informed post, but you and others apparently responded only to the headline. From the OP:

Despite the fact that there is no evidence suggesting flu shots would prevent the development of autism, (but) much mainstream coverage is using these study results to promote flu shots for the current flu season.

…Developing fetuses are incredibly vulnerable to environmental contaminations - not just flu infections or exposure to antibiotics and cell phones - and many effects only become apparent in adulthood. Autism and ADHD are just the tip of the iceberg. We're in the middle of a Chronic Disease Pandemic resulting from multiple causes and a superabundance of contaminations. ...I doubt we can vaccinate ourselves against every contamination we have created.



Also FYI - I do NOT take vaccines and did not allow my daughter to be vaccinated at school. However, despite the dangers and the real role vaccines play in creating disease, vaccines are only one factor contributing to the Chronic Disease Pandemic.

Originally posted by soficrow


…Developing fetuses are incredibly vulnerable to environmental contaminations - not just flu infections or exposure to antibiotics and cell phones - and many effects only become apparent in adulthood. Autism and ADHD are just the tip of the iceberg. We're in the middle of a Chronic Disease Pandemic resulting from multiple causes and a superabundance of contaminations. ...I doubt we can vaccinate ourselves against every contamination we have created.

This is wrong though... My 2nd son was born in 2000 as I said above The mother wast sick when she was pregnant with him and at the time the use of cellphones were limited.. Besides It took me forever to get a cellphone.. So thier data is wrong at least in my case.. There is more to this than what they say.. For Willie is more or less the choice the mother getting him the MMR shot.. He was quite normal before the shot and soon after he started with all the symptoms of autism... You know they are going to blame it on everything but what it is..

Injecting people with a million different chemicals that shouldn't be in your system in the 1st place exactly isnt the safest thing in the world..

reply to post by ThichHeaded


Wrong? ...Seems to me we're saying the same thing, just differently.

reply to post by soficrow


So what do you want us to talk about? Yes, we can presume fetuses are susceptable to lot's of negative outside contaminants, but you posted a story on Flu and flu shots during pregnancy, so that is the story and link we are interested in here.

I saw this on the morning news today, and my only thought was that "they" really want Everyone to get flu shots, and yet we know they don't want us all healthy and alive, so what is in those flu shots?

My whole family had the flu this last week. My husband commented the other night "Hey, now we are immune to that
virus!, terrific!" What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

reply to post by soficrow


I see what you are saying, and yes vaccines are just a part of the bigger puzzle. How big a part? In my personal opinion a pretty big part. But the bigger point is that as soon as kids can eat and drink other than milk/formula we start feeding them genetically modified crap while they sit in an electronic fog from wi-fi, cell-phones and who knows what all else. 3 out of 4 products at the supermarket contain some form of corn as an ingredient, almost all of it genetically modified. Chemicals and other products of dubious safety are everywhere, who know what will be the next asbestos/mesothelioma.

I think the best any of us can do is mitigate the risks. I would start with the flu vaccine if possible. Watch what you eat, if you can't pronounce it maybe you should avoid it. Cook sometimes using actual food without a bunch of chemicals. My daughter and I cook a lot together and she cringes at the thought of a cake, cookies or a pizza crust coming out of a box. It really isn't much more work than dumping a box of powder and adding water, plus we both enjoy it and she will always have that skill.

seems to me that the flu shot could actually cause an increase in autism. They are putting a disabled flu virus into the body so the body builds an immunity. Could this vaccine actually be causing an increase? I doubt if my concerns will ever be tested because it will devastate some big corporations and the integrity of the medical industry. Just a thought.

reply to post by SunnyDee

...you posted a story on Flu and flu shots during pregnancy,

My OP made 3 main points. This study is being used to :
a) try and manipulate people into getting flu shots;
b) distract from other news about the effects of cell phone use on developing fetuses; and
c) deflect attention from the fact that developing human fetuses are literally "under attack" from a huge variety of contaminations.

...that is the story and link we are interested in here.

Nope - it is the headline you are interested in here. ...I'm old school - and still believe people should read, stay informed and above all, think for themselves.

...I saw this on the morning news today

You saw the headline and perhaps assumed my contribution went no further. In fact, my OP referred to other headlines, related news and a much larger context.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

No doubt. Especially when you count adaptation and mutation.

reply to post by KaiserSoze

...yes vaccines are just a part of the bigger puzzle. How big a part? In my personal opinion a pretty big part.

I agree. And yes, we all have to start somewhere. But there is so much,much more...

reply to post by rickymouse

seems to me that the flu shot could actually cause an increase in autism. They are putting a disabled flu virus into the body so the body builds an immunity. Could this vaccine actually be causing an increase?

Yes - the immune response to vaccines may trigger autism. From one of my links:

…Studies in animals have shown that the baby's brain is affected when a female's immune response is triggered during pregnancy, such as fighting an infection. These initial findings suggest a mother's immune system may play some role in a baby's development

While I don't know if I believe the new findings or not, I do find it interesting. I have 3 children, the first 2 i got flu shots with and my 2nd pregnancy i was on a low dose antibiotic the entire pregnancy due to a persistent bladder infection causing preterm contractions as early as 4th month. Both fine, in fact my 2nd child is now 13 and a black belt in taekwondo, in show choir and does volleyball track and swimming as seasonal extra curriculars along with spending the first half of her 8th grade day at the high school taking pre ap classes to prepare for next year when she will be in a program earning college credits as a freshman. That was with flu shot and 5 months antibiotics during pregnancy. I missed the flu shot with my 3rd pregnancy and became severely ill. No antibiotics as it was viral and never caused a secondary infection. My 3rd child has high functioning autism and adhd.
Obviously this is one personal story and doesn't mean "they" aren't still blowing smoke up our bums to push flu shots, but because of my personal story Ifind this idea interesting. Thanks for sharing it.

reply to post by Curiousgal


Thanks curiousgal. ...The study doesn't say every child exposed to flu in the womb will get autism - just that "mothers who reported having the flu during their pregnancy were two times more likely to have a child with autism," and "Those whose fever persisted for a week or more before their third trimester were three times more likely to have a child on the autism spectrum."

...Whether we're talking flu or other pandemics, vaccines, cell phone use, microwave pollution, GM or anything else, my main concern is the fact that what we're doing to our fetuses, ourselves and our world is causing diseases that used to only affect the elderly to hit younger and younger people every year. We're in big trouble - and not just from ASD and ADHD but also cancer, heart disease, stroke and dementia.

....It's one thing when 90 year-old people can't remember stuff - quite another when kids and adolescents lose their memory. Maybe autism and ADHD are early signs of dementia in older patients...

reply to post by soficrow


Hi Soficrow,

Do you believe there is a genetic predisposition to the condition triggered by environmental factors - or just environmental factors alone ?



Could the increase in the number of diagnosed cases be due to greater general awareness of the condition - were once children displaying such atypical behaviour were just deemed odd or to use the parlance of the time "mentally retarded".

Why is there a greater number of males to females who have autism ?

Originally posted by UmbraSumus
reply to post by soficrow

 

Could the increase in the number of diagnosed cases be due to greater general awareness of the condition - were once children displaying such atypical behaviour were just deemed odd or to use the parlance of the time "mentally retarded".

Why is there a greater number of males to females who have autism ?

edit on 12-11-2012 by UmbraSumus because: (no reason given)

Thank you for bringing this up, I have many times questioned just how accurate this "increase" in cases is or if its more of an increase in awareness or a combo of both. I work with brain injured and intellectually disabled adults and as part of my required yearly training have learned much about how diagnosis, treatment, and social views have changed over the years. I don't believe for a moment that its actually such an increase in cases. I believe its a lesser increase of cases being more widely recognized.

And yes soficrow I agree with your comment on dementia etc, I have fibro and often say I'm a middle aged woman trapped in an old womans body, not to mention the brainfog (random dementia you could say lol ). And as opposed to my suspicion of increased awareness causing more autism diagnosis, I remember 20 - 30 year old women being strong and full of energy as a child yet today it seems most women Iknow that age barely have energy to make it thru the day. Something has definitely changed.