Mayan explanation of what will happen 2012.

"ascension"
"spiritual awakening"
"global consciousness"
"spiritual evolution"
"the Christ consciousness"
"evolution of consciousness"
"the divinity within"
"dimensional uplift"
"transhuminism"
"post humanism"
"consciousness uplift"
"awakening"

Mormonism, Freemasonry, Hinduism, Buddhism, apostate Christianity, New Age, occultism, Mayan, ufology cults, Shi'ites etc etc - this meme is believed by many.

All of them believe as Hitler did; "Man is becoming god"

The serpent doesn't come in red horns and a tail, but his tactic doen't change because mankind doesn't change - we are still gullible to believe that through his knowledge our eyes will be opened and that we'll be like god. Our parents in the garden bought it, and tragically most in these last days will too.

I've heard that the Mayans believed stalactites were the roots of trees. So, how much credibility can you put in Mayan beliefs?

Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
reply to post by severdsoul

 

so in your opinion every business on earth that charges money for services, is a scam? every scientist that charges money to work for a company is a scam? i was always taught that those who claim/cry scam the most, are usually a scam.

i think the reasoning skills, the common sense skills and above all, the humanity skills of most of the people in this forum, is pretty sad.

btw Mayan, like all indigenous tribes of the Americas kept most of their beliefs in vocal form and are not maintained by written form. they are handed down from person to person and do not rely on any records being kept or saved, those are for the ignorant whites that come along.

Not at all, but when it looks like and operates like a mlm pyramid scheme then you have to take it for what it is.
Unlike business and science, there has been nothing proven to be real in the aspect to this 'mystical' shift or belief. There is not one shred of evidence to prove that anything is going to happen. So comparing this to Science and real business is kind of lame.
A snake oil salesman is a snake oil salesman, no mater what package you put it in.

reply to post by LittleBlackEagle

btw Mayan, like all indigenous tribes of the Americas kept most of their beliefs in vocal form and are not maintained by written form. they are handed down from person to person and do not rely on any records being kept or saved, those are for the ignorant whites that come along.

Any evidence for this claim? Probably not.

In general, people with written languages record things in writing. People without writing record things orally. Mesoamerican cultures had writing.

Labeling whites as ignorant is a racist comment, not the first you've made.

Originally posted by WiseThinker
Ill repeat this as i have in so many threads about the supposed "Mayan Elders":

The Spanish killed all the priests and burned all the books of knowledge of the Mayans.

The supposed Mayan elders of today, know as much about them as you or i could find out, they have no special knowledge, no passed down information, just natives in the area, and done their research, and are now with the hype, earning money through tourism on it.

There are no Mayan Elders, all the priests and people with knowledge were slaughtered in order to bring the Mayan society to its knees, and to "please god, by destroying the blasphemy "

So this is just a local bloke, who may have spent alot of time researching and genuinely believes what he says, or a local bloke, trying to earn money through sensationalism. But a Mayan descendant who has access to hidden information, he most certainly is not.

Namaste.

by judge of the stars your post was a bit popular. With a second of thought to your words you were starred based on the negative quality of post response to the OP not actually of any truth to your words.

This being said, it took me less time than you spent writing your saga to find any related facts to your claim.
Here is an external quote with source which you omitted from your POST showing the Spanish Conquest didn't kill off the Maya

After Spanish dominion over the region was finally established, the Maya peoples themselves remained restive against Spanish rule, both under the colonial phase of New Spain and then under the newly-independent Mexican state. Maya discontent in Yucatán would later erupt into open revolt in the mid 19th century, in the Caste War of Yucatán. The major portion of this conflict lasted over fifty years, during which much of the southeastern portion of the Peninsula was an effectively independent Maya state, Chan Santa Cruz. Complete suppression of the revolt was difficult to obtain, and skirmishes continued up into the 1930s

source

Very interesting OP thanks for posting - it is so appropriate that he would mention the search for anti-matter and quantum physics as having a part in the convergence. He seems extremely knowledgeable and the fact that he mentions a shifting pole and methane leaking into the atmosphere which is happening.

Also interesting talk about the Mercury bulbs and how they work as bridge to attract the magnetism.

reply to post by racer451

Here is an external quote with source which you omitted from your POST showing the Spanish Conquest didn't kill off the Maya

The issue is not whether some people survived, but whether or not the culture survived. I've been to that area and know that parts of the culture have survived, but much has not. An example of lack of survival is the ability to read Mayan glyphs. Deciphering the glyphs has been difficult because no one was able to read the writing. Everything had to be worked out from scratch. Very little writing has survived except for 3 codices and what can be found on stone and sometimes wood.

A great deal has been permanently lost.

There are plenty of people from the area sucking money out of the wallets of the gullible and in part using their heritage as a means of doing it. These folks have no connection to the ancient Maya other than through heritage. Heritage does not imbue them with special knowledge. Ask an archaeologist if you want to learn about the ancient Maya and their culture.

reply to post by stereologist


Do you even have any compassion for your own human species? Do you have vision of a fair and productive system? Do you dream of a greater world for yourself and 7 billion people? If you do, then that miracle has to start sometime.

reply to post by racer451


I omitted nothing, as the poster above me pointed out, then it is obvious that there were Mayans who survived.

And i even pointed out that the deliberate destruction of knowledge was to :

There are no Mayan Elders, all the priests and people with knowledge were slaughtered in order to bring the Mayan society to its knees

An easy parallel would be to turn the story around, if the Maya had come to Europe and killed all the priests in the dark ages, then there would no longer be any literate people, and the knowledge of out written texts would disappear over time.


Also, to be honest, me having to make this post puzzles me as i clearly stated :

The Spanish killed all the priests and burned all the books of knowledge of the Mayans.

How you get from that to

Here is an external quote with source which you omitted from your POST showing the Spanish Conquest didn't kill off the Maya

Is beyond me, i only stated that the knowledge and those who possessed it were killed of, if you really want me to explain why, how and so fourth, send me a U2U.

Namaste.

reply to post by Wifibrains


AHAHAH

Sorry, but does this guy have a degree in physics? Is he a scholar of Mayan studies? This reminds me of the 60's gurus and their western trolls. It is quite plain to see that he offers nothing but a pastiche of what we hear nowadays about the supposed coming ... whatever....

I was laughing half the time while watching this.

reply to post by rabzdguy

Do you even have any compassion for your own human species? Do you have vision of a fair and productive system? Do you dream of a greater world for yourself and 7 billion people? If you do, then that miracle has to start sometime.

Clearly the idiotic claims of 2012 have nothing to offer. They address none of these issues. They are designed to empty the wallets of the gullible - nothing more nothing less.

reply to post by WiseThinker


oh no, no misunderstanding at all. you speak as to be in the know making claims without reference. Can you bring some publishing to us so as to concrete your position?

If not, you are ranting and as I understand there is a forum for Ranting.

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reply to post by stereologist


I find so many who dispute without bringing any publishing from respected source.
Calling crap on an issue without bringing something other than a built in crap detector doesn't buy its self shed light on any topics...
Good day to you!

Originally posted by racer451
reply to post by WiseThinker

 

oh no, no misunderstanding at all. you speak as to be in the know making claims without reference. Can you bring some publishing to us so as to concrete your position?

If not, you are ranting and as I understand there is a forum for Ranting.

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reply to post by stereologist

 

I find so many who dispute without bringing any publishing from respected source.
Calling crap on an issue without bringing something other than a built in crap detector doesn't buy its self shed light on any topics...
Good day to you!

edit on 16-11-2012 by racer451 because: line fix

And where are your reputable sources, from scientific papers, archaeological evidence, accurate translations etc etc etc ?

reply to post by siliconpsychosis


I am not making any claims
but thank you for asking.

reply to post by racer451

I find so many who dispute without bringing any publishing from respected source.
Calling crap on an issue without bringing something other than a built in crap detector doesn't buy its self shed light on any topics...

So which subject do you need to be educated on?

Do you need to learn about the limited remaining writing?
Do you need to learn how to avoid making improper inferences?

Clearly, you were way off the mark in thinking that a few being killed meant all being killed. I suspect that error is just the tip of the iceberg.

So please tell me what you need to learn and I am sure that posters here can connect you to the material you need to read.

reply to post by racer451


You are not making any claims? Really? What about this claim?

With a second of thought to your words you were starred based on the negative quality of post response to the OP not actually of any truth to your words.

It is quite wrong as was the claim that another poster's statement that some were killed meant all were killed.

Originally posted by WiseThinker
Ill repeat this as i have in so many threads about the supposed "Mayan Elders":

The Spanish killed all the priests and burned all the books of knowledge of the Mayans.

The supposed Mayan elders of today, know as much about them as you or i could find out, they have no special knowledge, no passed down information, just natives in the area, and done their research, and are now with the hype, earning money through tourism on it.

There are no Mayan Elders, all the priests and people with knowledge were slaughtered in order to bring the Mayan society to its knees, and to "please god, by destroying the blasphemy "

So this is just a local bloke, who may have spent alot of time researching and genuinely believes what he says, or a local bloke, trying to earn money through sensationalism. But a Mayan descendant who has access to hidden information, he most certainly is not.

Namaste.

Don't you just love the whole "please God by destroying stuff" mentality?

"No you will not speak of temples and pyramids have a book about a talking whale!"

If nothing happens, I'll likely be blowing my brains out. None of you will miss me, sad as that makes me.

Originally posted by MrUncreated
If nothing happens, I'll likely be blowing my brains out. None of you will miss me, sad as that makes me.

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WHAT! How dare you speak like that! Pull yourself together. If nothing happens then just wake-up the day after and realize it was a mistake, that's life my friend.

Don't do anything stupid. Life may be difficult and at times you took the sand for an oasis, but a true awakening is never too late.

Don't look to Mayans, the Milky Way, Makkah, Jesus, or Jerusalem. There was a Islamic mystic saint namd Rabia. Her servant remarked once, "My lady come outside and see what marvelous things God has made." Rabia responded, "Look within and see the Maker!"

Take it easy.