British Army Cadets thrown out of Liverpool Shopping Mall For Selling Poppies and Offending Muslims!

Originally posted by cody599
reply to post by davesmart

 

Fancy a pint over the rugby

As long as you dont tackle me
(2nd line) i need my teeth

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CHEERS

Originally posted by FreebirdGirl

Are you reading my posts? I am simply saying that no religion is exempt from murder.

IMO you should be fair in your assessment of religions otherwise you appear as a racist.

To state that Islam is a violent religion in comparison to other religions is not racism.

It is a statement of fact.

Everyone knows that Islam is more violent than other religions. I know that, Muslims know that. Even you know that.

I do have to post this for it seems that few forget

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.”

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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by FreebirdGirl

Are you reading my posts? I am simply saying that no religion is exempt from murder.

IMO you should be fair in your assessment of religions otherwise you appear as a racist.

To state that Islam is a violent religion in comparison to other religions is not racism.

It is a statement of fact.

Everyone knows that Islam is more violent than other religions. I know that, Muslims know that. Even you know that.

Please show me where Islam is more violent and other religions are not. I am positive for every argument you present there is an example to contradict your views. Better yet never mind. Once a racist always a racist.
Enjoy your day.

reply to post by chemistry


I'd like to know why they would get so offended??

What has WWI & II got to do with Middle Easterners?

I'm pretty sure they didn't even get involved in the Wars!

Having asked this though, I do wonder how long the Wars will be remembered?? Isn't it about time we moved on??

Or maybe after 100 years it would be time to say 'ok, thats it... we shall now move on, there have been other Wars and will be more Wars!!'

Isn't it all about Moving on from the past to better your Life?? This is what I thought... if every year we remember the Wars, how is this Moving On?

Originally posted by FreebirdGirl

Please show me where Islam is more violent and other religions are not. I am positive for every argument you present there is an example to contradict your views. Better yet never mind.

Once a racist always a racist.

Islam is not a race. It is religion.

I am puzzled why you believe it should be protected from criticism.

Originally posted by chemistry
This story really, really makes me angry:

Yesterday (7/11/2012) a delegation of Nationalists descended on Liverpool's St. John's Market along with the Liverpool Echo Building, BBC Merseyside and Joe Anderson's Municipal Buildings in protest of an "alleged" incident on Saturday 3rd November 2012 where four 14-15 year old cadets were abused and assaulted by several "Middle Eastern" store holders and security guards from within St Johns Shopping Centre for being in uniform and selling Poppies on behalf of the RBL and the Poppy Appeal.

The youths were told to leave the market because their uniforms (British Army) offended the Muslim store holders within the centre. Upon investigation it was found that one of the abused, a 14 year old female cadet "allegedly" had her arms twisted and thrown out by what is known to be 2 "Middle Eastern youths" working within the centre.

www.britishpatriotssociety.info... ur-articles&Itemid=53


Absolutely [snip] disgraceful! I hope people are convinced now that many immigrants are coming to Britain with the attitude that they can take over, and that the police will do NOTHING to stop them. When will the common man on the street step up and do something about this huge problem that Britain faces? If this incident would have happened in almost any other country, then those Muslim men could be dead by now (and that is not an exaggeration!). I was an army cadet myself, and to think that these cadets were treated like this in their own country fills me with utter rage. I am very quickly getting to the point where I would consider forming a British militia and starting my own little war against these people. There seems to be no other solution other than violence. The police won't help. The government only want to make things worse. I hope that the majority of Brits will wake up to this fact fast! I'm gonna share this story everywhere I can. Can I ask all of you please to spread this story far and wide. People need to know that this happened!

edit on 11/11/12 by masqua because: Censor circumvention

IT DIDNT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!

I find it a disgrace that the war dead who fought fascism are dragged into a points scoring episode , by right wing fascist nazi scumbags trying to create racial violence and hatred .

This thread should be moved in to the Skunkworks.


My nephew is a security guard in the "mall" in question and he knows nothing about this whatsoever. And yes, he was working on the day this incident is alleged to have happened.
Strange that the only place I can find anything about this story is on a nationalist site....

This is the only recent story I can find locally about Army Cadets being abused
www.liverpoolecho.co.uk...

Nothing to do with "middle-eastern" people though...

reply to post by Pardon?


As I said, it's a hoax - one of many that have repeated themselves for the last two years. It's tedious and an insult to our collective intelligence.

No two religions are equal in the prevalence of extremism (both relative and absolute), nor in the danger the extremists possess. So judging which religion is worse is justified. Also, religion is not a race, so crying racism is nonsense.

Originally posted by chemistry
This story really, really makes me angry:

Yesterday (7/11/2012) a delegation of Nationalists descended on Liverpool's St. John's Market along with the Liverpool Echo Building, BBC Merseyside and Joe Anderson's Municipal Buildings in protest of an "alleged" incident on Saturday 3rd November 2012 where four 14-15 year old cadets were abused and assaulted by several "Middle Eastern" store holders and security guards from within St Johns Shopping Centre for being in uniform and selling Poppies on behalf of the RBL and the Poppy Appeal.

The youths were told to leave the market because their uniforms (British Army) offended the Muslim store holders within the centre. Upon investigation it was found that one of the abused, a 14 year old female cadet "allegedly" had her arms twisted and thrown out by what is known to be 2 "Middle Eastern youths" working within the centre.

www.britishpatriotssociety.info... ur-articles&Itemid=53


Absolutely [snip] disgraceful! I hope people are convinced now that many immigrants are coming to Britain with the attitude that they can take over, and that the police will do NOTHING to stop them. When will the common man on the street step up and do something about this huge problem that Britain faces? If this incident would have happened in almost any other country, then those Muslim men could be dead by now (and that is not an exaggeration!). I was an army cadet myself, and to think that these cadets were treated like this in their own country fills me with utter rage. I am very quickly getting to the point where I would consider forming a British militia and starting my own little war against these people. There seems to be no other solution other than violence. The police won't help. The government only want to make things worse. I hope that the majority of Brits will wake up to this fact fast! I'm gonna share this story everywhere I can. Can I ask all of you please to spread this story far and wide. People need to know that this happened!

edit on 11/11/12 by masqua because: Censor circumvention

Charles Martel stopped them, but you guys have let them back in since then. Now you're swimming in what's going to conquer you. It's too late, there's nothing you can do except move to the americas and start over and make damn sure it doesn't happen here. You're being conquered "peacefully", and when they have enough numbers the violence will begin and Jihad comes in earnest and the suicide bombings and roadside/carbombs begin. Just take a look at the M.E. and you can see your future. A future where you and your women are subjugated under Sharia law and they will be required to wear Hijab and Burka outside the home.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by chemistry
This story really, really makes me angry:

Yesterday (7/11/2012) a delegation of Nationalists descended on Liverpool's St. John's Market along with the Liverpool Echo Building, BBC Merseyside and Joe Anderson's Municipal Buildings in protest of an "alleged" incident on Saturday 3rd November 2012 where four 14-15 year old cadets were abused and assaulted by several "Middle Eastern" store holders and security guards from within St Johns Shopping Centre for being in uniform and selling Poppies on behalf of the RBL and the Poppy Appeal.

The youths were told to leave the market because their uniforms (British Army) offended the Muslim store holders within the centre. Upon investigation it was found that one of the abused, a 14 year old female cadet "allegedly" had her arms twisted and thrown out by what is known to be 2 "Middle Eastern youths" working within the centre.

www.britishpatriotssociety.info... ur-articles&Itemid=53


Absolutely [snip] disgraceful! I hope people are convinced now that many immigrants are coming to Britain with the attitude that they can take over, and that the police will do NOTHING to stop them. When will the common man on the street step up and do something about this huge problem that Britain faces? If this incident would have happened in almost any other country, then those Muslim men could be dead by now (and that is not an exaggeration!). I was an army cadet myself, and to think that these cadets were treated like this in their own country fills me with utter rage. I am very quickly getting to the point where I would consider forming a British militia and starting my own little war against these people. There seems to be no other solution other than violence. The police won't help. The government only want to make things worse. I hope that the majority of Brits will wake up to this fact fast! I'm gonna share this story everywhere I can. Can I ask all of you please to spread this story far and wide. People need to know that this happened!

edit on 11/11/12 by masqua because: Censor circumvention

Charles Martel stopped them, but you guys have let them back in since then. Now you're swimming in what's going to conquer you. It's too late, there's nothing you can do except move to the americas and start over and make damn sure it doesn't happen here. You're being conquered "peacefully", and when they have enough numbers the violence will begin and Jihad comes in earnest and the suicide bombings and roadside/carbombs begin. Just take a look at the M.E. and you can see your future. A future where you and your women are subjugated under Sharia law and they will be required to wear Hijab and Burka outside the home.

IT DID NOT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT < ITS A HOAX >>>>WHICH LETS PEOPLE LIKE YOU ESPOUSE THERE IDIOTIC BELIEFS ON THE UK >>>I LIVE HERE >>

Do you not think the british middle ground can think for themselves , the only way for islam to take over as you say is for islam to be attractive to middle ground thinking"western liberal" people , which thanks to right right wing bigots & idiots [snip] they will attract. as it is British culture is far more likely to assimilate and "dilute" any religious beliefs because as a generalisation we are a agnostic or atheist nowadays and our freedoms will not be taken , not because right wingers will defend them but because they will just be adopted by the subsequent generations

reply to post by chemistry

I hope the English take care of this. I'm afraid they have allowed the radical muslims to entrench themselves too far into the country. Could be to late. Lets not let this happen here in the US.

I say again... please stop the bickering.

reply to post by FreebirdGirl


Why are liberals so quick to throw out the racist card? Why do you want to stifle discussion?

As to Islam being a violent religion, why don't you just simply google it, there are millions of examples. Now before you throw the every religion has its examples, I happen to notice that it is Islam that has the most examples.

Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
This looks like yet another right-wing “ISLAM IS TAKING OVER” thread from right-wing source.

I took a look at the first two pages of this thread and found no source to corroborate the story being discussed, the source itself appears to me to be somewhat nationalistic and right-wing. I took a look through the websites other articles found many to be anti-EU but many seemed to be anti-Islam. For this reason without another source that is more balanced to back it up I can only conclude that this is yet another one of these islamophobic groups like the EDL.

To be clear, I do agree that we have something of a immigration problem, I am all for restricting the number of people entering the UK. However I think this un-British bully boy tactic of targeting one ethnic group is wrong. To me that is what this website is doing, it is deliberately promoting anti-Islamic propaganda.

You see this is half the problem, people like you waltzing into threads without reading half the content. I think you will find that someone had already posted a link to a local newspaper confirmed that this same thing had happened the year before. Here it is again Telegraph and argus report

And as for you Blupblup moaning about Casino being involved in anti Islamic threads are you not doing the same? You and Truebrit always come into these threads defending Islam and accusing everyone else of being Right wing Islamophobes and you can bet your bottom dollar the name Brievik will get mentioned by you at some point. Every single time there is a debate about Islam and some of the issues with it you are the first to start spouting your PC BS with the same old tired predictable lines of how Christianity is just as bad or the majority of Muslims are innocent peace loving people.

For the record I live in Birmingham and have seen this type of behaviour first hand and believe me there are a hell of alot more Muslims behaving this way than just a few misguided individuals.

Originally posted by HolgerTheDane2
Not trying to hi-jack your thread but merely adding another incident to the mess.

This one from Denmark.

In a certain council estate in Denmark the newly elected muslim majority in the estates residents' association have outvoted the setting up and ligting ceremony of the traditional christmas tree. Cost 7.000 danish kroner.

Resently they had a Muslim EID festivity which cost 60.000 danish kroner.

Their claim was that noone wanted to supervise the whole christmas tree thingy. The miniority in the association says "it's a lie".

LINK here

edit on 11-11-2012 by HolgerTheDane2 because: (no reason given)

Hi holger

i also like what he said

"Respect Danish traditions"
Behnke fears that some people are trying to convert Denmark into a Muslim country.

"There's no point in wanting to convert Denmark into a Muslim country because you yourself have a Muslim background. That must never happen. On the contrary, we must have mutual respect for one another. This is a lack of respect for Danish traditions and culture. We must not have a Denmark where Danish traditions disappear as soon as there is a Muslim majority," said Behnke.

Behnke said that he felt sorry for the minority on the Egedalsvænge estate, who for the first time in many years would not be getting a Christmas tree.


This is a similar scenario here in parts of Britain

Originally posted by gambon

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by chemistry
This story really, really makes me angry:

Yesterday (7/11/2012) a delegation of Nationalists descended on Liverpool's St. John's Market along with the Liverpool Echo Building, BBC Merseyside and Joe Anderson's Municipal Buildings in protest of an "alleged" incident on Saturday 3rd November 2012 where four 14-15 year old cadets were abused and assaulted by several "Middle Eastern" store holders and security guards from within St Johns Shopping Centre for being in uniform and selling Poppies on behalf of the RBL and the Poppy Appeal.

The youths were told to leave the market because their uniforms (British Army) offended the Muslim store holders within the centre. Upon investigation it was found that one of the abused, a 14 year old female cadet "allegedly" had her arms twisted and thrown out by what is known to be 2 "Middle Eastern youths" working within the centre.

www.britishpatriotssociety.info... ur-articles&Itemid=53


Absolutely [snip] disgraceful! I hope people are convinced now that many immigrants are coming to Britain with the attitude that they can take over, and that the police will do NOTHING to stop them. When will the common man on the street step up and do something about this huge problem that Britain faces? If this incident would have happened in almost any other country, then those Muslim men could be dead by now (and that is not an exaggeration!). I was an army cadet myself, and to think that these cadets were treated like this in their own country fills me with utter rage. I am very quickly getting to the point where I would consider forming a British militia and starting my own little war against these people. There seems to be no other solution other than violence. The police won't help. The government only want to make things worse. I hope that the majority of Brits will wake up to this fact fast! I'm gonna share this story everywhere I can. Can I ask all of you please to spread this story far and wide. People need to know that this happened!

edit on 11/11/12 by masqua because: Censor circumvention

Charles Martel stopped them, but you guys have let them back in since then. Now you're swimming in what's going to conquer you. It's too late, there's nothing you can do except move to the americas and start over and make damn sure it doesn't happen here. You're being conquered "peacefully", and when they have enough numbers the violence will begin and Jihad comes in earnest and the suicide bombings and roadside/carbombs begin. Just take a look at the M.E. and you can see your future. A future where you and your women are subjugated under Sharia law and they will be required to wear Hijab and Burka outside the home.

IT DID NOT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT < ITS A HOAX >>>>WHICH LETS PEOPLE LIKE YOU ESPOUSE THERE IDIOTIC BELIEFS ON THE UK >>>I LIVE HERE >>

Do you not think the british middle ground can think for themselves , the only way for islam to take over as you say is for islam to be attractive to middle ground thinking"western liberal" people , which thanks to right right wing bigots & idiots [snip] they will attract. as it is British culture is far more likely to assimilate and "dilute" any religious beliefs because as a generalisation we are a agnostic or atheist nowadays and our freedoms will not be taken , not because right wingers will defend them but because they will just be adopted by the subsequent generations

edit on 11/11/12 by masqua because: Removed personal attack

Your so sure?! Really like I pointed out to a guy earlier if you had read the whole thread you would have discovered this indeed has happened before, only last year in fact so in my opinion there is a very good chance that this is true. Here, READ. Telegraph & Argus

Originally posted by mr-lizard
reply to post by Pardon?

 

As I said, it's a hoax - one of many that have repeated themselves for the last two years. It's tedious and an insult to our collective intelligence.

And the same goes for you, read the WHOLE thread instead of forming an opinion which is not based on any evidence other than your gut feeling. It has happened before in only last year. Telegraph & Argus