Al Gore Gives Us About 90 More Years

Originally posted by jinni73
according to the superfreakonomics book al gore has spent 300 million dollars warning people about global warming and the cost to reverse it only costs 250 million

then again according to the bbc (although there source is extremely dubious due to it being down to a guy called monckton who was advising maggie thatcher on climate change) the temperature has only risen 0.75 degrees in a 130 years.

If its possible to take our world back from the scum we have to introduce MRI scanning so we can tell who is lying or not,
in fact wouldn't it be nice for everyone to stop working and go stand outside the worlds parliaments and demand that we introduce this right now, although that won't happen in a hurry

If Al Gore has spent 300 million warning people about global warming? Thanks for proving Al Gore is not in this for the money. Why spend so much if you aren't concerned about the environment? Nobody can say he is hoarding it for himself now can they? Anyone that thinks investing in the heath of the planet is a bad thing is ignorant and ill informed. It is sad they have no conscience about what they have taken and even less about what they are leaving future generations. I find it gluttonous, piggish and stupid.

And when you say it only costs 250 million to reverse it you are saying it is reversible where-as I am not even sure that is true. It might be lessened. It might be slowed but it darn sure can't be REVERSED. Another fallacy.

But if it were true...even if it cost a trillion - we should start to do it.

reply to post by sonnny1



Keeping to topic....What an ignorant, misinformed and unacceptable response to a critical issue of our modern times. I don't think I've ever read anything more irrelevant. More talk in the way of condemnation for the noble Gore is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to provide an unrelated diversion from the actual facts and immediate dangers of global warming. Golly... I did not see that coming...



You must be in the oil business because they are the folks fighting like unhinged mad dogs - trying to tell people it isn't really happening, it can't be changed by burning less fossil fuels. It is folks protecting the oil industry who are acting as if attention to the issue is a bad thing.

Character assignation of Al Gore isn't going to make global warming go away.

Human intervention will help keep it from getting as bad as it might as fast as it can.
Why not make those responsible for putting fossil fuels into the air - pay into a fund where money is used to help clean the air? It makes perfect sense to people that have any.

This a no brainer and as another poster pointed out so well - Al Gore has invested 300 Million in this cause. That should tell you something about the mans sincerity. Caring about the planet is not a fault. Coming up with ideas to save it is not a bad thing.

The folks involved in cap and trade which was a big platform of John McCain do not create the problem by offering up a solution.
You think it is significant that people involved in the production of global warming should not be involved in the steps taken to address it?

I don't think that it is surprising at all and that argument is a deflection from the horrible work of destroying the planet and getting rewarded for it by making profits - any profits at all without paying a penalty for the lasting and lifetime of damage you are doing.

Originally posted by newcovenant

You think it is significant that people involved in the production of global warming should not be involved in the steps taken to address it?

Sure.........

I am saying........

AL GORE IS A HYPOCRITE

I think Al Gore and his ILK stand to make lots of money, off of his "version" of Global warming/Climate Change/or whatever data can be skewed to make a new name of it........

Thats a fact, as he sits in his illustrious mansions sucking all the energy he can afford, without having you,our children, my children, or the rest of the World in mind.



No, I don't work for the oil Industry. No, Im not frothing at the mouth, like some are, EVERY TIME Al Gore opens his mouth either. No, I don't believe Al Gore has my best interest at heart. I know for a fact, Al Gore is a Hypocrite.

Debating that Al Gore has ANYONE'S best interest at heart other then his own, is adding to the Worlds carbon footprint...........

If I'm not mistaken, the Gore family owns a cattle ranch in East Texas near Marshall that also has oil wells on it... Al Gore has good reason to deny global warning but he is alerting the masses to what is happening.. He went to Vietnam as an enlisted man after finishing college with a degree in journalism... His father could have pulled strings and got him a commission as an officer like Bush 41 did for his idiot boy.... Even with his father being the first person in the senate to oppose the was Al Jr. didn't use his father's influence because being from the Volunteer State and knowing that a poor boy that had no choice like he did would be drafted in his place... He is a damned fine man that has followed the path of father and chose to serve the people of this country unlike the idiot boy who is hiding out in North Dallas and staying high on god only knows what... It is evident to me that people that are smearing Al Gore are just biased and angry that he's exposing global warming and making good sense to people around the world..... If idiot boy was saying and doing what Al is doing it would be 100% viable to them... Instead they heard drill baby drill and the highly paid naysayers on Fox "News" (a lie) twisting the truth and getting worked up like junior high school kids at a pep rally that knew their team would win even though the other side was playing a better game they are in denial... They have lost twice now and like in the 2000 election, that was won halting the recount, are willing to say or do anything regardless of how crooked or deceptive to have the last word, even if it means the death of their grandchildren ... The oil companies don't mind if we all die as long as they can pump and sell the last drop of oil, and the children in the bleachers will still be cheering and praying that their side wins unless they change their way of thinking or are dead.... "In an insane world, the sane appear insane"

Originally posted by newcovenant

If Al Gore has spent 300 million warning people about global warming? Thanks for proving Al Gore is not in this for the money. Why spend so much if you aren't concerned about the environment?

Al Gore in 2009 was projected to make a billion dollars from 'green' technology.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

I'd invest 300 million to make a billion too. General Investment Management, the firm he set up and runs, see to it he's profiting quite nicely from all this greening they push on us, though if you ceck to see who he himself invests in there really aren't any 'green' firms. Check yourself, the information is public through the SEC.

And soon we'll all have our individual carbon bills when the UN pushes that through.

Great Article, that still stands.......

These celebrities and politicians justify their unnecessary consumption by purchasing carbon credits, which many of the nouveau-conscious acquire in order to offset their excessive energy usage. Carbon credits were established by the Kyoto Protocol, which established limits on carbon emissions for most countries (incidentally the United States has still not signed this agreement even though it is the world’s largest emitter of greenhouse gases). Countries and companies who fall below their established limits are free to trade their credits in the global emissions market to other parties—including individuals—who have exceeded their emissions limits. When celebrities today buy these credits, they are allowing themselves to continue their disproportionate consumption while somewhere else in the world carbon emissions are reduced by other societies to make up for American excess.

While these superficial efforts by stars to offset their consumption are admirable, they are not a lasting solution. The average American household would have to buy $276,000 a year in carbon credits to counteract their carbon emissions, a price tag few Americans would be able to afford. Moreover, even if every American household could afford carbon credits, the result would be that Third World countries would bear the burden of our excessive lifestyles. While carbon credits are a viable short-term option for industry and an important step toward reducing greenhouse gas emissions from the corporate sector, they are not practical for American families.

The American lifestyle is built upon overindulgence; from McMansions to SUVs we love our conspicuous consumption. That way of life is no longer sustainable. Our planet is disintegrating, and unless we begin to change our ways—and not just talk about changing them—those $10 million dollar Malibu homes will no longer exist for Hollywood’s celebrities to frolic in. America has plenty of these phony Hollywood enviro-celebswhat it needs now is someone who actually practices what he preaches.

Gore and “Green” Goonies

The Last paragraph is so true..........

Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by newcovenant

If Al Gore has spent 300 million warning people about global warming? Thanks for proving Al Gore is not in this for the money. Why spend so much if you aren't concerned about the environment?

Al Gore in 2009 was projected to make a billion dollars from 'green' technology.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

I'd invest 300 million to make a billion too. General Investment Management, the firm he set up and runs, see to it he's profiting quite nicely from all this greening they push on us, though if you ceck to see who he himself invests in there really aren't any 'green' firms. Check yourself, the information is public through the SEC.

And soon we'll all have our individual carbon bills when the UN pushes that through.

edit on 12-11-2012 by khimbar because: (no reason given)

edit on 12-11-2012 by khimbar because: (no reason given)

No way!

Al Gore making money?

reply to post by sonnny1


It's such a great con, I almost want to set up the Society for Carbon Alleviation Methodologies and get myself a slice of this greening money they throw around so freely for doing feck all.

reply to post by SLAYER69
Hmmm.....With current technology, we could be sending romotely operated semi autonomous robots up to the moon and have them harvest that helium3 thats just laying around all over the place. The bots could run on solar power, when the bins full.....beep, off they head to the remotely operated semi autonomous crawling processor that fires the pellets of helium3 earthward for that other semi autonomous remotely operated bot catchers mitt to field and drop in a given coordinate with a little reusable parachute system......But why would we do that? It might make sense.
Yep, I know that this scenario is oversimplified, but if I were the head of an energy conglomerate or Bill Gates Or Mark Zuckerberg etc., thats where I would focus my efforts, skyward. ZPM's and cold fusion are nice plots for Star Gate, etc., but I'm not holding my breath.
Also, more on point, Aren't all of the bodies in the system heating up at the same rate? Aren't we passing through a dust/gas cloud at present as we travel on our oblique path while we crash into the Milky Way Galaxy (WE being the Sagettarious galaxy and Sagettarians)? I thought that was also what was causing the electromagnetic shifting and depletions and solar behavior...........not cow farts.

YouSir

reply to post by sonnny1

AL GORE IS A HYPOCRITE

SO WHAT?

GLOBAL WARMING IS STILL KILLING US

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by sonnny1

 

AL GORE IS A HYPOCRITE

SO WHAT?

GLOBAL WARMING IS STILL KILLING US

Giving him money for the sake of him making a massive profit isn't helping abate it. Nor going to help stop it. Nor stop the causes or symptoms. Nor the affects.

All it will do is make him richer. Not stop global warming, or climate change or whatever they call it now.

So tell me how Al Gore making millions upon millions through phony carbon trading will stop 'global warming killing us' again?

Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by newcovenant

If Al Gore has spent 300 million warning people about global warming? Thanks for proving Al Gore is not in this for the money. Why spend so much if you aren't concerned about the environment?

Al Gore in 2009 was projected to make a billion dollars from 'green' technology.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

I'd invest 300 million to make a billion too. General Investment Management, the firm he set up and runs, see to it he's profiting quite nicely from all this greening they push on us, though if you ceck to see who he himself invests in there really aren't any 'green' firms. Check yourself, the information is public through the SEC.

And soon we'll all have our individual carbon bills when the UN pushes that through.

edit on 12-11-2012 by khimbar because: (no reason given)

edit on 12-11-2012 by khimbar because: (no reason given)

About damn time too.



In Oregon, McCain touts his cap-and-trade system to fight global warming

PORTLAND — In a major environmental speech, Sen. John McCain on Monday said he would combat global warming with a cap-and-trade system to cut carbon emissions and increase use of nuclear power and alternative energy. "We stand warned by serious and credible scientists across the world that time is short and the dangers are great," said McCain, the Arizona senator and presumptive Republican presidential nominee. "The most relevant question now is whether our own government is equal to the challenge."

reply to post by khimbar


OK. Why argue with a rock. You're right. Let us let the planet go down the tubes so Al Gore doesn't make any money. Might I also add that home schooling is going to be the death of this great country of ours as we slide down the list of best educated over the wold. This will explain also why half of us are still in denial of the facts and trying to make Global Warming something Al Gore made up.

U.S. Lags Behind Other Countries In Higher Education Attainment Rate

In the U.S., 42 percent of all 25-64 year-olds have reached higher education... behind Canada (51 percent), Israel (46 percent), Japan (45 percent) and the Russian Federation (54 percent).

When it comes to the young adult population, U.S. ranks 14th among 37 OECD and G20 countries in the percentage of 25-34 year-olds boasting higher education attainment, at 42 percent.
... behind the leader, Korea, at 65 percent.

reply to post by SLAYER69


I have great ideas for reliable alternative energy sources. The problem is, I know the consequences of using such alternative energy sources.

You think the world is in bad shape now with how humans are affecting the environment? There are ways to gather electricity naturally and with more efficiency than using solar panels, or wind farms.

However such energy sources when used worldwide would change the migratory pattern of dozens of animals such as bees, birds, turtles, fish, humpback whales, and many other animals.

What many people who demand for "free energy" can't understand are the consequences of using for example Tesla's technology.

Electricity forms magnetic fields which if they exist anthropogenically(man made) all over the world, as it would be needed to have a reliable alternative energy source, these magnetic fields would mask the natural magnetic field and the field lines the Earth has. These are natural magnetic fields that dozens of animals and insects use to navigate, and which if changed through anthropogenic magnetic fields, it would cause mass die offs of those dozens of species of animals and insects.

These are consequences which most people out of ignorance do not contemplate, or even realize.

What I see happening in the future, if a large enough portion of mankind survives the NATURAL ongoing changes that Earth is going through, what will most probably happen is that we will begin looking for alternative energy sources outside of Earth.

Looking for alternative energy sources outside Earth is the only reliable way for us not to interfere with the natural process of any animal, insect, or the environment, meanwhile finding what we need.

But so far, and with the known technology that the public has there is no way to do this. With our current technology we would use more energy trying to find such energy sources outside of Earth, such as asteroids and meteors, or other planets, than the energy we would produce through those outside sources of energy.

What we can do for now is finding new ways to save energy, for example, building underground homes. Underground homes will keep a normal temperature around 65 degrees either in summer or winter anywhere on Earth. You also don't have to maintain the outside of your house if it is underground, so we wouldn't be using paint. Underground houses do not burn when there is a forest fire, they don't get destroyed by hurricanes, or tornadoes.

As I have also written in past years in these forums we will be seeing more and more people buying, or building underground houses. They make sense.

BTW, Al Gore is not in the alternative energy source field to "help mankind"... He is one of the most cynical people on this planet. On the one hand he asks for everyone to use a bicycle, and on the other hand he drives around in a lincoln limousine, with an suv following him around, and flies in his private jet...

He has one of the biggest mansions anyone could buy, and uses more energy than most of the rich people on this planet, yet he is being called "green" because he is asking everyone to save electricity and uses some energy saving lightbulbs...

Al Gore is hypocrisy personified...

Originally posted by newcovenant



About damn time too.

You are too brainwashed, and too emotional to make any logical decisions about the environment, or alternative energy sources.

Like millions of people around the world you let your emotions do the thinking for you, instead of using rational, and logical thinking.

McCain is in this, just like Al Gore, and many others because it is the plan the world elites want to implement.

The way they have been saying, and will claim that "we can only combat Climate Change is if we have a One World socialist/fascist government"... Of course, they will leave out the socialist.fascist aspect of such a government, but anyone thinking rationally instead of allowing ill-founded emotions guide them will see the truth behind this lie that is AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming).

The end goal of Al Gore, McCain, and the elites is to create this One World Government that will control every aspect of people's lives.

reply to post by SLAYER69


Al Gore. Global warming is in fact real. But not for the reasons our profiteering politicians claim. You know all the planets in our solar system are warming up right? So I guess Mars carbon emissions are way too high. Our sun is in it's solar maximum right now Maybe you should look into that. I'm not saying keep on polluting, not at all. Keep going green it's all good. Bu they have to stop lying an come clean with the facts.

Green energy and renewables is the way to go, whether we've contributed to climate change or not, our climate is changing and we need to try to limit the damage, if we can, although with all the back and forth on this issue, it may already be too late. Obviously we can't change the world overnight, it has to be gradual so that people can retrain in the new industries that will be created. The bickering about what causes climate change has to stop, it's time for us all to grow up and stop being selfish, and think about the world around us and the future we are creating for our kids.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse



ElectricUniverse -

Something tells me you have a vested interest in this.

I don't care about your investments.

Don't care what stocks will tumble.

I don't care about MISTAKES we make seeking alternative energy.

I care about the planet and the ecosphere, survival of the species.

Listen, Electric, Even if there were not global warming,

Even if there were not man made global warming concerns,

Making companies pay (I don't care who they pay) for polluting the atmosphere & the air we all breathe, with toxic emissions - according to and in direct proportion to the degree that they pollute the atmosphere with, is quite a fantastic idea for a lot of reasons. This being the first...

Now, if you want to discuss where the money goes from there - we can.
Otherwise I am done discussing this with you.

My only hope is that when Al Gore says "we" he doesn't intend to be around that long.

The world has had enough of his nonsense in the last few years to last us a few centuries at least.

I wonder how big his carbon footprint is jetting around the world in 5 star vehicles off all types, living a 5 star lifestyle so he can tell us all to ride a bike to work and save energy?

Oh, and having not one but multiple 5 star homes of his own I'm sure is a small footprint in and of itself...

The human race may be doomed but the Earth is not - it will abide. Life will go on in some form.

Most of the species that have ever lived are extinct now, what makes us think we will last forever?

The Earth has endured climatic change before and will do so again, anything the human race contributes to that change is very little in proportion to the forces of nature.

reply to post by SLAYER69


Back in the 70's there was credible scientific evidence for global cooling. Hmmn, just sayin.