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here;s a video of some kids walking down the street, you can hear the explosion
Originally posted by Hijinx
reply to post by Zcustosmorum
Natural gas makes the most sense at this point. I would think with an airliner or other airborne object crashing there would be reports of an object coming down before the explosion, or someone reporting hearing what sounded like jet engines before it impacts. Airlines are pretty loud distinct sounds, even when they are coming down.
Originally posted by Hijinx
reply to post by Zcustosmorum
Natural gas makes the most sense at this point. I would think with an airliner or other airborne object crashing there would be reports of an object coming down before the explosion, or someone reporting hearing what sounded like jet engines before it impacts. Airlines are pretty loud distinct sounds, even when they are coming down.
according to google maps I was 5.2 mi away from the explosion, I definitely did feel the shaking first, as I was like wtf is going on, then the shockwave hit and really messed with my mind. the video with the sound, to me sounds about 10 miles away, as what I heard was the most inhuman crashing noise you could imagine, it was probably 2x as loud as that video.
Originally posted by Hijinx
reply to post by Trillium
Ground shaking before the explosion??? That's definately something interesting. Do you or anyone else have any facebook status screen shots mentioning this?
The only reason I could think this would be the case is if, the reverberations in the ground traveled faster than the sound/shockwave in the air. This usually is not the case, but I suppose it could be plausible depending on their location...
As well, if an airliner crashed you would have to be mighty close to feel the ground shake from the impact, and for you not to feel the ground shake from the following explosion.
I would think it's likely, the shaking that was felt was a direct result of the explosion. I'm currently listening to the explosion vid over and over with headphones full blast. The audio in the video sounds like a loud firecracker, but I don't know how far they are from the explosion. No reverberation/echoing. The devistation looks much larger than the explosion sounds, but that should not be taken into account it could be the device it was recorded on or location.
A good way to check this out is go to USGS, if the ground shook significantly a station will have picked it up. Otherwise it's likely those that felt the shake were relatively close to ground zero, and it was a result of a large explosion.
Originally posted by Honor93
in an occupied dwelling though, occupants should have detected/smelled a build up that big, long before the point of explosion.
and for some odd reason, my gutt is telling me the end result is going to be declared a suicide.
Originally posted by Hijinx
reply to post by Trillium
Ground shaking before the explosion??? That's definately something interesting. Do you or anyone else have any facebook status screen shots mentioning this?
The only reason I could think this would be the case is if, the reverberations in the ground traveled faster than the sound/shockwave in the air. This usually is not the case, but I suppose it could be plausible depending on their location...
As well, if an airliner crashed you would have to be mighty close to feel the ground shake from the impact, and for you not to feel the ground shake from the following explosion.
I would think it's likely, the shaking that was felt was a direct result of the explosion. I'm currently listening to the explosion vid over and over with headphones full blast. The audio in the video sounds like a loud firecracker, but I don't know how far they are from the explosion. No reverberation/echoing. The devistation looks much larger than the explosion sounds, but that should not be taken into account it could be the device it was recorded on or location.
A good way to check this out is go to USGS, if the ground shook significantly a station will have picked it up. Otherwise it's likely those that felt the shake were relatively close to ground zero, and it was a result of a large explosion.
I also want to mention, ground shaking before an explosion is out of place, but I do not think it means something crashing. An airliner makes noise from it's engines even going down. A meteor makes an ENORMOUS amount of noise while traveling through the atmosphere. Something with enough size and energy to create the damage shown in those photos would have made a sonic boom all the way until it hit the ground, not to mention a lovely brilliant tail of burning, smoking material. A satellite as well would have had a brilliant tail all the way until at the very least over the impact site, but it would have still had a smokey tail due to re-entry.
Natural gas makes the most sense given the area. It seems unlikely someone would place a bomb in the area, but it could very well happen just not in the terrorist sense. I would think a bomb in an area like this would be targeting an individual or household not the neighbourhood. Dirty bomb falls under same criteria for me. It would make more sense to place a device like that or a bomb in a busy area, like downtown or a mall where the most people could be harmed/affected.
Please, if you disagree continue discussing. I am not there, I can not say for sure. How ever I do think it very likely it was a natural gas explosion. It looks very much like one, and they can vary from a small fire to an entire neighbourhood when they go off. It's an exact science fuel/air mixture for detonation so the odds seem slim, but it's entirely possible. Intentional or not.edit on 11-11-2012 by Hijinx because: (no reason given)