Giant sonic boom felt and heard in Indianapolis Indiana(meteor? mass devastation Info blocade

Originally posted by Neopan100
reply to post by diesel_actual

 

I wonder why the houses to the right are charred and the ones to the left aren't...any ideas?

Wind usually blows from west to east perhaps?

reply to post by fugazzi777

most likely faulty appliance (thermo couple)...

Since safety devices such as thermocouples are designed to fail 'safe', it is not the most likely cause of the explosion. It is possible, but not most likely.

More likely would be an accident where something bumps a tubing or fitting that begins to leak, or an under-qualified person performs repairs or maintenance to the equipment and causes a leak.

Lol that pic looks fake it's so blown up. The explosion must of been mad!
FOX: Preppers gone wild!!!

I don't know though. Someone mentioned a tank found from some propane place??? And radiation levels? Test some wood and send it into a uni they will test free samples!

reply to post by Johnathanandheather
I can see it now...Do you like to stockpile food, use propane to barbeque, or are generally prepared to be self sufficient for more than 3 days in case of a disaster? YOU are a terrorist, and THIS is what can happen!

reply to post by Manhater


Their is a difference from a plant, to a personal house. Wouldn't you agree? One is presumably made mostly of concrete and reinforcements and the other, presumably mostly wood? I can ensure you, without a shadow of a doubt that it could very well be a natural gas explosion.

Here is another example of a propane explosion.

To the possibility or not of gas explosion - it really could have been a 1 in a million situation, with perfect conditions for such an extreme explosion. It doesn't neccessarily matter that nothing previously has looked like this, there's still a first time for everything. Unless someone can work out an actual upper-limit to what is possible using physics that rules it out completely based on the effects?
It is of course noticable and worth pointing out the seeming equal destruction of both properties, and that the epicentre seems to be between the properties, but it's possible that a stronger wall on one side of the house deflected the explosion to it's neighbour, shielding the other house (I *think* there was a small wall or structure left standing in one of the obliterated houses)
It's also possible that the way they both look to have been completely obliterated is just a result of a very complete fire in the second house.
If it was in any way an 'official' assassination, it would have been explained naturally by now, a covert assassination is supposed to be explainable by other causes. The likelihood of a foreign power firing a missile undetected into an American suburb is virtually impossible. So military srtrike is very much reaching into illogical territory. The circumstances and implications to make it possible are just too much, unless you're trying to make life much more sinister and exciting than it is.
If it was an air-burst meteor, there would have been a very obvious flare just before, and a sound, but none have been reported in that area. Still possible of course.
I really don't get why the time of 11.10 is supposed to be 'suspicious'. It had to occur at some time, everything does. Why is this in any way indicative of pre-meditation?
Some of the reasoning that goes on here hurts my brain, but it gets me thinking at least. (mostly just 'ohmygod what the hell is wrong with you').

Originally posted by delusion
To the possibility or not of gas explosion - it really could have been a 1 in a million situation, with perfect conditions for such an extreme explosion. It doesn't neccessarily matter that nothing previously has looked like this, there's still a first time for everything. Unless someone can work out an actual upper-limit to what is possible using physics that rules it out completely based on the effects?
It is of course noticable and worth pointing out the seeming equal destruction of both properties, and that the epicentre seems to be between the properties, but it's possible that a stronger wall on one side of the house deflected the explosion to it's neighbour, shielding the other house (I *think* there was a small wall or structure left standing in one of the obliterated houses)
It's also possible that the way they both look to have been completely obliterated is just a result of a very complete fire in the second house.
If it was in any way an 'official' assassination, it would have been explained naturally by now, a covert assassination is supposed to be explainable by other causes. The likelihood of a foreign power firing a missile undetected into an American suburb is virtually impossible. So military srtrike is very much reaching into illogical territory. The circumstances and implications to make it possible are just too much, unless you're trying to make life much more sinister and exciting than it is.
If it was an air-burst meteor, there would have been a very obvious flare just before, and a sound, but none have been reported in that area. Still possible of course.
I really don't get why the time of 11.10 is supposed to be 'suspicious'. It had to occur at some time, everything does. Why is this in any way indicative of pre-meditation?
Some of the reasoning that goes on here hurts my brain, but it gets me thinking at least. (mostly just 'ohmygod what the hell is wrong with you').

edit on 12-11-2012 by delusion because: (no reason given)

If I could star this multiple times, I would. It seems that people think the world is more evil than it actually is.

reply to post by delusion


The US is very arrogant, when it comes to thinking we are the best and all that. The US navy would have said it was impossible for a russian sub to sneak into the middle of a war exercise, until they actually did it. Just something to ponder, if it was a country making a statement, proving it could be done, you think we would ever find out? I think it would be kept under wraps, classified super top secret

Not that I believe it was some kind of military strike, just putting on my devil's advocate hat

Originally posted by StareDad
reply to post by diana

 

The reporter said it happened around 11:15 p.m or so, regardless, it was dark night. Who paints furniture outside at night in fall? I don´t swallow that. Suspiciously, at least 10 people mentioned they know the neighbours or such. Come on, ATS is big and the earth is small sometimes but not that small. I may believe 3 or 4 in a special coincidence but not as many as posted. I followed the thread until page >40. I´m not saying you are lying but many clearly do.

I have been in ATS for eight years -and very rarely post. I live by Chicago my friend was visiting Indianapolis this weekend. She went to a flea market to buy furniture and they were painting/spray painting outside at night. We're night owls just because you wouldn't doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.

press briefing concluded

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by delusion

 

The US is very arrogant, when it comes to thinking we are the best and all that. The US navy would have said it was impossible for a russian sub to sneak into the middle of a war exercise, until they actually did it. Just something to ponder, if it was a country making a statement, proving it could be done, you think we would ever find out? I think it would be kept under wraps, classified super top secret

Not that I believe it was some kind of military strike, just putting on my devil's advocate hat

granted, quite possibly.
But everything's planned for, so wouldn't there be a policy, written somewhere, about what statements are to be made in event of an attack? Would they just make a up a plan on the spot? They certainlly would be very cautious about saying anything until they were 100 percent sure, because it would amount to a decleration of war. Be interesting to know under what conditions they would keep it a secret, if any. A shame if they would.

Originally posted by PieceOfThePuzzle
If I could star this multiple times, I would. It seems that people think the world is more evil than it actually is.

Ha, cheers. It *could* be that evil, but that *could be* should have some solid grounding first.

Originally posted by delusion

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by delusion

 

The US is very arrogant, when it comes to thinking we are the best and all that. The US navy would have said it was impossible for a russian sub to sneak into the middle of a war exercise, until they actually did it. Just something to ponder, if it was a country making a statement, proving it could be done, you think we would ever find out? I think it would be kept under wraps, classified super top secret

Not that I believe it was some kind of military strike, just putting on my devil's advocate hat

granted, quite possibly.
But everything's planned for, so wouldn't there be a policy, written somewhere, about what statements are to be made in event of an attack? Would they just make a up a plan on the spot? They certainlly would be very cautious about saying anything until they were 100 percent sure, because it would amount to a decleration of war. Be interesting to know under what conditions they would keep it a secret, if any. A shame if they would.

Originally posted by PieceOfThePuzzle
If I could star this multiple times, I would. It seems that people think the world is more evil than it actually is.

Ha, cheers. It *could* be that evil, but that *could be* should have some solid grounding first.

edit on 12-11-2012 by delusion because: (no reason given)

Other than people claiming that because 'X' happened that it must be, without a shadow of a doubt be 'Y' ?

Thanks again for the stellar post.

Originally posted by PieceOfThePuzzle

Originally posted by delusion

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by delusion

 

The US is very arrogant, when it comes to thinking we are the best and all that. The US navy would have said it was impossible for a russian sub to sneak into the middle of a war exercise, until they actually did it. Just something to ponder, if it was a country making a statement, proving it could be done, you think we would ever find out? I think it would be kept under wraps, classified super top secret

Not that I believe it was some kind of military strike, just putting on my devil's advocate hat

granted, quite possibly.
But everything's planned for, so wouldn't there be a policy, written somewhere, about what statements are to be made in event of an attack? Would they just make a up a plan on the spot? They certainlly would be very cautious about saying anything until they were 100 percent sure, because it would amount to a decleration of war. Be interesting to know under what conditions they would keep it a secret, if any. A shame if they would.

Originally posted by PieceOfThePuzzle
If I could star this multiple times, I would. It seems that people think the world is more evil than it actually is.

Ha, cheers. It *could* be that evil, but that *could be* should have some solid grounding first.

edit on 12-11-2012 by delusion because: (no reason given)

Other than people claiming that because 'X' happened that it must be, without a shadow of a doubt be 'Y' ?

Thanks again for the stellar post.

edit on 12-11-2012 by PieceOfThePuzzle because: (no reason given)

his post is definitely not the only stellar post in the thread, lots of valid opinions his included which have not been confirmed or denied yet.

reply to post by Honor93


Investigations can take weeks/months, and may not even come to a conclusion. Saw it first hand, when my friend and his family perished in a house fire, this past Spring.

This is very strange, it happened I am told at 11:11 PM 11/11/12 and I placed a video on Facebook with a comment about how the blast resembled a Hellfire missile and TPTB won't comment on it and I saw my comment and came back awhile later and my story was still on Facebook but everything about a Hellfire missile and government was gone! Those of you that know my posts know I am the last to think of government cover-up etc. but something strange seems afoot!
I fear something wicked this way comes!

They still haven't found a cause.

So far no problems found with gas lines.

usnews.nbcnews.com...

My opinion is its something other than from gas. I don't think its from a Meth lab. I think its something external looking at pictures because of the crater. Just my opinion.

Homeland Security Chief Gary Coons told Fox59 News that there was no evidence leading investigators to suspect methamphetamine production in the house. Additionally, bomb-sniffing dogs and federal agents found no traces of bomb residue in the wreckage.

Homeland Security confirmed Monday that the leading factor of the explosion at Stop 11 and Sherman Drive was likely a natural gas leak.


www.fox59.com...

Originally posted by Maskander
his post is definitely not the only stellar post in the thread, lots of valid opinions his included which have not been confirmed or denied yet.

Very true. Anything that fact-checks, summarises without speculation, speculates with good reasoning to back it up, or offers a personal experience relevent to the situation gets my star vote.
I don't want to respond to or criticise every blatantly un-justified illogical assertion, but the need does build up over the course of the thread.

Originally posted by lilmehere
Facebook pictures

Look at that car..

I wish I had a rear photo of that car before the explosion. Have you seen any old google map photos with that car in a driveway? I'm looking for "CNG" stickers/emblems on the vehicles.

Why?
Longshots "R' Us
Indianapolis
www.altfuels.org...
www.pptuu.com...
www.slideserve.com...
www.pbcfr.org...

Coupled with the video on page 10 and the furnace rumours on pages 58 (newspaper link) and 60 (Faux News link) ... and putting Occam's Razor in the metal shredder ... guess I'm looking for longshot explanations as we wait the "several weeks" the fire department said it would take to get the final verdict.

This fits the narrow line of a natural gas explosion where NO leaks can be found (because the leak blew up!) and also fits the in between the houses (driveway) quandry and exploded auto pictures on my links above look like your car picture but their debris radius is only 100 feet.

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OK then... I read many threads that ruled out natural gas, but looks like that was the cause. Very tragic and shocking that one faulty furnace could lead up to an explosion that viscous.

I wonder how long the gas had been building up in the house? Also wonder if the couple suffered from carbon monoxide poisoning before it went off? May they RIP.